Tata Storme vs Mahindra XUV5OO - Which One To Choose?

[raj_5004]

@raj_5004., do you mean to say that the new stone guard will not scrape an obstacle which is taller than 170 mm?

What I mean is - NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN THE XUV. The GC is exactly the same as it was before. Just the technique of measurement has changed.

The Maruti SX4 has 180 mm of GC. So, do you think the XUV will have 10 mm less than the SX4? Isnt it visually obvious?

Coming to the stone guard, it will not scrape since it falls in line with the front axle and the front wheels. So, it moves up and down along with the wheels. Unless you purposely try to pass a huge obstacle from in between the tyres, the guard wont scrape.

I have been taking my XUV to my construction site twice a week and it clears the huge craters without breaking a sweat. So rest assured, you do not need to worry about the potholes and speedbreakers our roads have to throw.

If you are looking for a practical 7 seater with enough space to stuff your luggage then look at ARIA. No other car comes close.

Even Aria does not offer any space in the third row. Just having luggage space with all seats in place does not make a car a true 7 seater. When I sit in the Aria's third row, the middle row cannot be folded back into position because it fouls with my legs. In the XUV, I can barely manage to sit, but for not more than 30 mins!

Even today, the most practical 7 seater is the Innova and Xylo.

Superbad, you are the first person I've heard say XUV has more space than a Safari.

Add me to the list too.

Even I felt the XUV has more space. Yes, the difference is not much though.

saying that I think storme never had screeching noises or never needed multiple replacements of brake pads for whatever reasons like the xuv .

That is the reason I mentioned - "If you are talking about braking distances..." in my post, since Tornado said Storme has better brakes.

 

[manojodungat]

Having said that kids can seat more safely in xuvs last row compared to storme .

Yes better third row/space utility in XUV.

And you are sure about long term reliabilty of xuv ?

The comment was for the "suspension" alone.
A softer suspension for a better ride comfort is yet to prove its reliability.

How much have you driven the storme ?

At least to an extend to know the difference.

Interior quality is infact robust in storme then xuv .

Is It? But I didn't think so.
P.S: Let's agree to disagree here.

The xuv may have a better design ( that again is subjective )

+100
XUV does have a better design.

There is a difference between design and quality .

Thanks for the enlightenment.

but quality wise the storme is more durable with nice soft touch plastics compared to the hard and shiny plastic of xuv .

As far as quality is concerned, just having soft touch plastics at places don't make it superior, but the way those bits and pieces are held together consistently, too is a factor which I thought is better in XUV.

Features yes the xuv is a clear winner .

+10000

 

[Raja]

Yes better third row/space utility in XUV.

The comment was for the "suspension" alone.
A softer suspension for a better ride comfort is yet to prove its reliability.


At least to an extend to know the difference.


Is It? But I didn't think so.
P.S: Let's agree to disagree here.


+100
XUV does have a better design.

Thanks for the enlightenment.

As far as quality is concerned, just having soft touch plastics at places don't make it superior, but the way those bits and pieces are held together consistently, too is a factor which I thought is better in XUV.


+10000

Manoj the storme is well put car interior wise . I have driven stormes which are 16,000kms old and none of them had any sort of rattling in interiors . Not a single ownership report has reported interiors falling or anything .

 

[Superbad]

^ actually many on TAI and elsewhere are reporting rattling of rear door etc repeatedly.
this for the storme.

 

[Raja]

^ actually many on TAI and elsewhere are reporting rattling of rear door etc repeatedly.
this for the storme.

Discussion is precisely going on for interiors . Rattling of rear door yes you are right many do face this problem. Simiarly on other forums people are reporting rattling of interiors in xuv too .

 

[TrafficHacker]

Guys,

When talking about the dependability and reliability of Storme & XUV, we are comparing a recently launched XUV with a car which was in the market and roads for more than a decade and half, Storme (safari), so be fair there.
As a matter of fact, in the early days, Safari had its fair share of niggles/ issues/ replacements and recalls, of which a few they still carry.
Inspite of the fact that many of the design concepts were shared from Tata Estate/ Siarra (if am not wrong), etc.

Ground clearance was a concern even I had when I was considering XUV, now that I have one, I can clearly vouch for that.
The GC for XUV has not been reduced, only the engine stone guard has been lowered a little bit and has not really impacted the daily & a fair bit of off-road drives.
As navnit013 said, for serious off-roading even Storme's GC wouldn't suffice.
The approach & departure angles are not good enough at all for Storme, for that matter XUV as well.
So neither of them can be considered as real off-roaders, though Storme has a slight upper hand here, only due to the more efficient 4X4 (as I hear from others).

The space in the last row for both the cars are practically for luggage, but from passenger usability perspective I personally feel XUV is better in comparison with Storme.
The reason for that I speculate is the body roll of the storme that makes its last row uncomfortable for practical use.
I have taken couple of colleagues from office who are 5 feet to 5'8", and they were comfortable in XUV's 3rd row, however am 5'10 and have had a short drive on storme in the 3rd row and that was really a nightmare with my head hitting the roof, neck bent, shoulder hitting the middle seat, legs getting strangled.
The same people whom I took on the XUV last row had taken a drive on storme last row as well and had testified XUV to be better
From a luggage perspective when considering the space of Storme & XUV, there is hardly any difference.

Coming to the brakes, many people have here said Storme has better brakes, but if you guys would believe me, one of the main reasons why I let off Storme and went with XUV was the brakes.
The body roll and the wavy movement even in the city drive makes me stay away from storme.
When I did the TD on Storme, we happened to make a slightly hard braking and it was real scary as everyone onboard were thrown to the front and my wife was really uncomfortable and that moment we realized this is not for me.
Also considering the city road handling of Storme and XUV, I would prefer to use XUV over Storme as it offers a car like feel and easy maneuverability.

Interiors look & feel is a matter of personal choice, however from quality stand point, I do not think Storme has any kind of upper hand, both Storme & XUV are similar.
Quality of the plastic in Storme is much better than that of the early Safari Dicors, but not even close to the market standards set by many other cars of the same segment/ price range.
I have never felt that the XUV's interiors (read as quality & layout) are any day inferior to Storme, its at par if not better in case of XUV.
Rattling was another thing that was very evident in the TD Storme itself, which had done just 6.5K on ODO, but on that context XUV was neat, as I could not spot any in a 15K driven TD XUV and ~40K driven colleagues XUV.
So Storme still seems to carry the jinx from the legendary Safari.

Overall, considering the car performance and the change M&M have put into XUV for making it better, over just 2 years time is really commendable.
When comparing the XUV initial version and the one coming out onto the road now, there is a lot of difference noticeable and have really emerged; they are able to iron out 95% of the issues as of date.
In the case of Safari Storme/ Dicor, there are still issues that the owners has been cribbing about over years and its just going into deaf ears.
Atleast M&M is listening, improving and improvising.

 

[raj_5004]

To add to the above, even I would like to re-iterate the fact that the Storme's cabin quality is not miles ahead of the XUV. I have always under estimated the XUV by looking at the negatives and ignoring the positives. I felt the Storme a tad better because the feel of the dashboard plastic in the Storme was better. But even XUV has soft touch plastics everywhere, whether its the door pads, arm rests and even grab handles.

Talking about that, the Storme does lack a few premium touches of the XUV's cabin. So all in all, when we talk about the cabin, I personally feel XUV has a upper hand because it feels better, looks modern and incorporates a lot of creature comforts.

 

[Raja]

Guys,

When talking about the dependability and reliability of Storme & XUV, we are comparing a recently launched XUV with a car which was in the market and roads for more than a decade and half, Storme (safari), so be fair there.
As a matter of fact, in the early days, Safari had its fair share of niggles/ issues/ replacements and recalls, of which a few they still carry.

Iam sure you know that the storme is based on a all new platform and not the decade old which you are talking here .
Which few recalls are they carrying can you explain us in storme ?

Inspite of the fact that many of the design concepts were shared from Tata Estate/ Siarra (if am not wrong), etc.

No nothing of that sort of .

The body roll and the wavy movement even in the city drive makes me stay away from storme

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Can you kindly explain what do you mean by wavy moment in city ? What speeds you were driving ?

Also considering the city road handling of Storme and XUV, I would prefer to use XUV over Storme as it offers a car like feel and easy maneuverability.

my wife found it other way round , she found the xuv claustrophobic , were as the storme had better airy feeling and all round visibility and a commanding view . The turning radius of storme is again a plus point .

Interiors look & feel is a matter of personal choice, however from quality stand point, I do not think Storme has any kind of upper hand, both Storme & XUV are similar.

Quality of the plastic in Storme is much better than that of the early Safari Dicors, but not even close to the market standards set by many other cars of the same segment/ price range.

Which cars ? Kindly explain . So you mean the xuv too doesn't come close since you said above that xuv and storme are similar from quality stand point ?

I have never felt that the XUV's interiors (read as quality & layout) are any day inferior to Storme, its at par if not better in case of XUV.

Similarly many feel exactly opposite . I personally like the layout of xuv more then storme .

Rattling was another thing that was very evident in the TD Storme itself, which had done just 6.5K on ODO, but on that context XUV was neat, as I could not spot any in a 15K driven TD XUV and ~40K driven colleagues XUV.

I have exact opposite experience g3 motors had a 5k run xuv rattling and squeaking , on bad roads and was extremely dirty and on same roads storme which was 3500k old was rattle and squeak free . I have driven storme of owners from our forum itself , they look and drive as if just brought . Although personally owned xuvs of our members are also superbly maintained .

So Storme still seems to carry the jinx from the legendary Safari.

Only in your subjective experience here it seems . Because taking your logic we too can extend and say xuv carries the jinx from the legendary Scorpio of clutch failures , niggles .

Overall, considering the car performance and the change M&M have put into XUV for making it better, over just 2 years time is really commendable.

True .

When comparing the XUV initial version and the one coming out onto the road now, there is a lot of difference noticeable

What exactly can you kindly explain please?

In the case of Safari Storme/ Dicor, there are still issues that the owners has been cribbing about over years and its just going into deaf ears.

Again here too can you kindly explain which issues precisely of storme ? Since we are talking here about storme .

Atleast M&M is listening, improving and improvising.

Kindly see the attached screen shot as new and fresh as 18-10-2013 , one owner thinks exactly opposite .

To add to the above, even I would like to re-iterate the fact that the Storme's cabin quality is not miles ahead of the XUV. I have always under estimated the XUV by looking at the negatives and ignoring the positives. I felt the Storme a tad better because the feel of the dashboard plastic in the Storme was better. But even XUV has soft touch plastics everywhere, whether its the door pads, arm rests and even grab handles.

Talking about that, the Storme does lack a few premium touches of the XUV's cabin. So all in all, when we talk about the cabin, I personally feel XUV has a upper hand because it feels better, looks modern and incorporates a lot of creature comforts.

Similarly the guys who have brought storme feel exactly opposite to what you feel let me re- iterate that fact too .
They buy or love the storme for its classic time less design , mighty and majestic presence .

 

[raj_5004]

Similarly the guys who have brought storme feel exactly opposite to what you feel let me re- iterate that fact too .
They buy or love the storme for its classic time less design , mighty and majestic presence .

Not denying that!

This is the reason I have mentioned - the XUV and Storme are neck to neck on most parameters. I choose the XUV because I like it's cabin more, the features, the safety, the handling, decent ride and also because I trust M&M more than Tata.

Others have have their own reasons to choose the Storme over the XUV.

My comment on the interior quality was to say that I dont think the Storme's interiors is a big leap over the XUV.

 

[MrRanger]

Iam sure you know that the storme is based on a all new platform and not the decade old which you are talking here .
Which few recalls are they carrying can you explain us in storme ?


No nothing of that sort of .





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Can you kindly explain what do you mean by wavy moment in city ? What speeds you were driving ?


my wife found it other way round , she found the xuv claustrophobic , were as the storme had better airy feeling and all round visibility and a commanding view . The turning radius of storme is again a plus point .




Which cars ? Kindly explain . So you mean the xuv too doesn't come close since you said above that xuv and storme are similar from quality stand point ?

Similarly many feel exactly opposite . I personally like the layout of xuv more then storme .


I have exact opposite experience g3 motors had a 5k run xuv rattling and squeaking , on bad roads and was extremely dirty and on same roads storme which was 3500k old was rattle and squeak free . I have driven storme of owners from our forum itself , they look and drive as if just brought . Although personally owned xuvs of our members are also superbly maintained .

Only in your subjective experience here it seems . Because taking your logic we too can extend and say xuv carries the jinx from the legendary Scorpio of clutch failures , niggles .


True .

What exactly can you kindly explain pls .

Again here too can you kindly explain which issues precisely of storme ? Since we are talking here about storme .


Kindly see the attached screen shot as new and fresh as 18-10-2013 , one owner thinks exactly opposite .


Similarly the guys who have brought storme feel exactly opposite to what you feel let me re- iterate that fact too .
They buy or love the storme for its classic time less design , mighty and majestic presence .

there are so many complaints about XUV now a days, I was shocked to see one review by some XUV customer who really in bad mood it seems.

Look and Style : Great. Comfort : Good Pickup: Good Mileage: Good - 13-14 (I drove on highway for 700km). My car is now 1500 km driven Best Features : I bought XUV 500 W8 on Jan 15. and this is the list of issues I have faced in last 15 days:The car has been manufactured using worst quality material. So its not a low cost car..its a cheap car with inferior quality material and you end up spending the money that has not been spent on it. Think before buying it as any 16L vs XUV for 13L...but cost of fixing things up makes up for that 3L difference. Mahindra service centers and engineers have no answers to my questions:1. Break drums are rusted.You can see it visibly from outside. Mahindra blames the vendors. For evidence, check any other car/ SUV on road and you would know what I mean.2. Wipers are bad quality and if it rains and you use them, they cause scratches on the windscreen. It may not happen in the first 2 minutes of usage. It can be so bad that you may want to change your windscreen.3. Windscreen is single layered glass. Small pebble-touch can cause it to crack/ break. I have already replaced mine. I really thank Mahindra service center to do under warranty; however, it has scared me as it can happen again4. The beautiful headlights and are made of bad glass. I have driven my car 1500 km and there are spherical shadows in the headlights from where the light passes through.5. Aux unit does not work. Engineers have agreed that its a cause of worry in all the cars. You can test it using your iPod. You would not be able to hear the sound in all the speakers/ there would be continuous noise in audio quality.6. The awesome red colored central screen switches off and on, on its own. You wanna try it...open the box on top in the center of the car, right above the console. Bang it a little harder...ur touchscreen is likely to reboot! :)Please don't be happy if it doesn't as it may happen at any time. Surprise is the fun part!7. Hard suspension! you drive any car/ sedan/ SUV and you drive your XUV over the same speed breakers. You can feel the difference. XUV would throw you in all directions and you would feel all the bumps.8. Here is the shocker! Breaks suck! hand break is so bad that the car can slip any side depending on the side of the slope you are with your hand break pulled up. Try pulling the car up on a slope if you don't believe this.(Please do so under supervision as it may cause an accident. I drove the car in Simla and experienced this)
Don't buy XUV 500 even if it means its the cheapest best looking XUV 4448 | CarDekho.com

I wish good for this guy and I feel Mahindra should attend this guy very seriously and ASAP

Not denying that!

This is the reason I have mentioned - the XUV and Storme are neck to neck on most parameters. I choose the XUV because I like it's cabin more, the features, the safety, the handling, decent ride and also because I trust M&M more than Tata.

Others have have their own reasons to choose the Storme over the XUV.

My comment on the interior quality was to say that I dont think the Storme's interiors is a big leap over the XUV.

+100 each and everyone has there own reason to trust TATA or MnM,
for me STORME feels so easy to drive in any condition than XUV, STORME's cabin feels so Airy and gives freedom feel.
where as XUV as I seen is just like more features more issue package, MnM should work hard in this area.

 

[Raja]

[=raj_5004;336774]Not denying that!

This is the reason I have mentioned - the XUV and Storme are neck to neck on most parameters

True

I choose the XUV because I like it's cabin more, the features, the safety, the handling, decent ride and also because I trust M&M more than Tata

Fair enough and you are correct in your own choice

Others have have their own reasons to choose the Storme over the XUV.

this is precisely i was saying

My comment on the interior quality was to say that I dont think the Storme's interiors is a big leap over the XUV

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Of course it is not a big leap or anything , it is imho marginally better .

 

[Superbad]

And as for Superbads "monocoque hence more space" argument. Superbad, you are the first person I've heard say XUV has more space than a Safari.

I still stick with it.

It has more leg room in the first(drivers seat usability) and second row(free leg room)

As for the 3rd row uneasiness with XUV, it has to do with claustrophobia which is a "phobia" to begin with.

It is subjective. some felt claustrophobic in swifts front seat too. that does not mean swift has no space at the front.

Some felt claustrophobic even at the drivers seat in an XUV. All these are subjective elements and vary from person to person.

 

[MrRanger]

All you Safari lovers, here is some Indonesia spec modified Storme and ARia, ARIA tyres are up sized where as STORME wearing same shoes.

http://indianautosblog.com/2013/09/tata-aria-modified-tata-safari-storme-modified-98247

 

[THE XOVER]

^Both vehicles are looking very good in white,especially Aria-with those big wheels,and modified front/rear bumpers.

 

[Raja]

I still stick with it.


It is subjective. some felt claustrophobic in swifts front seat too. that does not mean swift has no space at the front.

Some felt claustrophobic even at the drivers seat in an XUV. All these are subjective elements and vary from person to person.

True , similarly statements like ->

Also considering the city road handling of Storme and XUV, I would prefer to use XUV over Storme as it offers a car like feel and easy maneuverability.

Are also subjective in nature and vary from person to person .