Tata Safari Storme Breaks Cover (Launch Coverage: Pg.301+)

[Superbad]

Re: Tata Safari Storme Breaks Cover (Launch Coverage: Pg.322+)

If it comes to reliability m&m and tata doesn't hv much gap.
And When it comes to niggles xuv is a classic example.

and which of our members of the forum had to go through any of those "niggles"?

Enough said.
Just to put it as a benchmark since tata reliability thread is taken as a benchmark for tatas reliability.

 

[Raja]

Re: Tata Safari Storme Breaks Cover (Launch Coverage: Pg.322+)

Let us be more realistic.

Sofa on road has not helped in Safari sales since a decade where as many other manufactures are having a day in Indian subcontinent with Suv's and uv. Guess what, just because Tata's are most unreliable.I reckon testimony of many owners in TAI including myself to prove it.

As a modern Suv most of the buyers would use it on well paved roads and city commutes with high element of "showoff" which calls for well to do specification in paper as well as in real situation(obviously ignoring the need of high quality ride.)
Safari and storme is literally failing in most of the departments in such regards.

I like Storme as an SUV for the looks and whatever it has to offer but does that warrants competently for "the best buy" ?

@ jaydev

First it was not a post written by me , it was a autocar review which compared the Scorpio and storme and concluded that storme is a better product .

What are your requirements I don't know , as per my requirements and choice the Scorpio is outclassed by storme in every department . Only its the low revs and rev free engine of Scorpio which has a advantage and its not a huge advantage for me atleast acceleration of storme is not bad atall .

Storme lx model gives you 4 disc brakes , abs , Ebd , music system , class leading space and comfort , better interiors , paint quality , superb ride quality . Better chasis , better handling too .

I still don't understand why is it so difficult to accpect that a storme is a better product then scorpio I don't know .

Don't get me wrong here please looks are subjective I agree some can find storme ugly and its all fine but a disc brake is better then drum brakes , ride quality is better then its better we can't change that fact .

Reliability is something which will be seen later for storme that is something not , you , me , Gurralla or any member can predict right now .

Whatever impressions are being presented here by any forum member say Gurralla , auto safari , myself , Rajdeep , Sanjay , Mukesh , freak dude , gm88 , tornado78 , tornado , Arvi , mr ranger , vipul , navdoon , bugs and many others are initial impressions of the car .

And all can't be wrong here there is a clear pattern here all have praised and critized the storme for practically same reasons .

Best is to decide seeing the storme and Scorpio in real drive it back to back and then decide for yourself which is better and then stick to it .

Beside that Rajdeep is a classic example of a buyer who preferred Scorpio over a safari but rejected the Scorpio moment he saw and drove the storme . Maybe as per his requirements , budget , choice , taste he found the storme bang for a buck . And then we have member like Singh who is a fan of safari/ storme yet his family booked xuv because they got more features .

Both Rajdeep and Singh's family are right on their part .

 

[S Class]

Re: Tata Safari Storme Breaks Cover (Launch Coverage: Pg.322+)

Thanks a lot guys for your valuable feedback, had a discussion with my parents last night and most probably will book the beast on Sunday. SA was telling me the delivery will be around 10th January. Can't wait till then.. My wife seems to be already jealous of my love towards Storme coz every night i read the broucher again & again till i fall asleep

Congrats on your booking. Studies show that buying car without wife's consent is considered next to infidelity. Beware all you married chaps.

@ all,

Congrats to all who have purchased/booked. Keep us updated on feedback.
BTW, a source informed me that Concorde Motors till date have bookings of around 2,000 stormes. Once it is launched pan-India, fig will only go up.
Desperately waiting to try out the storme.

 

[Raja]

Re: Tata Safari Storme Breaks Cover (Launch Coverage: Pg.322+)

What I can say at this point of time is that, the big hunt is on for the 'Biggest Fan' of the new Tata Safari Storme.

It is really sad that a brand like Tata has been struggling for almost ten years to come out with a product to compete with the likes of Scorpio in the market. At the same time I am glad enough to read some interesting reviews in favour of the legendary Safari indicating that it is slowly overcoming from the Shock [of life] it suffered by the launch of Mahindra Scorpio back in 2002,though there are also reviews where people are not happy with Storme at all.

I don't feel ecstatic by reading an article which says a 2012 storme has a few more positives than Scorpio which saw its last facelift back in 2009. I don't see it as an achievement, the long term reliability factor is yet to be proven as well. If this 2012 model is proved better in the long run ,I will be happier that Mahindra will plan better for another 2002 kind of launch with the All New Scorpio.

After a couple of months and after all these excitements, I sincerely don't want see another TAI thread " why X failed to take off but Y continues to do well" which is not going to do anything good to us, the consumers at the end of the day.

BTW another [positive] review of Storme
The Hindu : Life & Style / Motoring : Storme

Ofcourse mahindra will and has to come with a better a Scorpio in 2014 , that is the game anyway right ? And then tata will and so on so forth and whichever car a given consumer will like as per his budget and his requirements he will opt it be a Scorpio or a storme .

Infact I might buy a 2014 Scorpio if it looks good and if my family likes , but in this gap till the new Scorpio launches , as per you whatever small changes tata has made in storme are well worth to consider it over a Scorpio IMHO ( subjective ) .

And yes safari was plagued with niggles , hope that storme is reliable if its not then the fate will be same as the current safari .i too as a fan of SUVs in general hope storme turns out to be a reliable product and brings good reputation to tata motors which they desperately need in the current scenario .

 

[S Class]

Re: Tata Safari Storme Breaks Cover (Launch Coverage: Pg.322+)

Some differences in various models of Storme -

The Lx doesn't have following features -

Centre arm rest,
Fog lights,
Rear wiper,
Rear roof-mounted AC (but it has floor mounted unit),
Height adjustable driver seat,
Alloy wheels,
Parking sensors.

Some of these are absent even in EX. No doubt lx is most VFM & all most of these things can be added later. We can keep aside roof mounted AC vents & height adjustable driver seat, but can anyone let me know if rear wiper can be installed later ? I know rest can be done though.

@ all,

Please don't bring scorp every now & then. Scorp is Madhuri Dixit, Storme is Katrina Kaif. Madhuri was good during her time, not now. So, lets not bring yesterday's stuff today.

 

[jayadev]

Re: Tata Safari Storme Breaks Cover (Launch Coverage: Pg.322+)

@ all,

Please don't bring scorp every now & then. Scorp is Madhuri Dixit, Storme is Katrina Kaif. Madhuri was good during her time, not now. So, lets not bring yesterday's stuff today.

It is highly discouraging to see that dated Scorpio has enough muscles to challenge latest Safari or Storme.

Again it is highly discouraging to note that while in press meet ups and auto expos Tata top brass never fails to come up with highly polished diplomatic comments for upcoming cars and future launches but the delivered products leaves much to desired and their prowess remains debatable.

I was expecting a dramatic change in ASS and marketing front of Tata but so far nothing -disappointingly.

Enthusiast in me writes off:- Automobile is just one of the many hundreds units Tata has.
There is nothing much other than plane jane cars and innumerable loose ends. All those emotional and psychological feelings are made up by us owners/users, where manufacturer has no concerns whatsoever other than "some" business and cash flow.

@ Sclass Btw ,a very poor comparison:- Madhuri will be remembered as an ageless actress for her acting and stage skills in coming years,I don't think Katrina will survive even for next 5 years from now.

 

[sanjaysg]

Re: Tata Safari Storme Breaks Cover (Launch Coverage: Pg.322+)

completed 1000K no issues not a single one. Storme is still running like a car.
guys I know all colors are good, but if you want people to roll down thr window, ask you to stop so that they can have a look pls plz phleaseeeee buy Bronze color. it looks awsome in sunlight and its a new color. this is not Duster brown pls understand that.

@ Jaydev : what ASS we are talking here? in my case, infact I wrote an appriciation mail to TATA motors the way they are handling Storme customer. Concorde Motors Pune is like my own showroom. Thats they way they are treating thr customers.

btw pls take a TD of Storme whenevr its available in your state. You will never talk about any other product trust me...bet? :-)

 

[singh890]

Re: Tata Safari Storme Breaks Cover (Launch Coverage: Pg.322+)

Nobody is more excited than TAI about the storme.
I guess we may get testimonial from all storme buyers on TAI.

What's bad in that and there are many of my friends who are in US and have not been home for a long time and they come on TAI just for the Storme thread and updates. This was just a small example buddy.

And i have quite a few friends back in India as well who just visit TAI for the same reason and 2-3 of them are current Safari owners as well.

All storme owners, please don't mess around with OEM fitments/electricals and let it run with whatever it came with, if you want a stress-free ownership.

What's wrong in getting some MODS in Storme? People do get MODS or be specific speakers and component systems fixed in their brand new Scorpio's or XUV (Which is way complexed then Storme) and if they don't have any problems why would Storme have problems.

Can you please give a specific reason for that?

Thanks a lot guys for your valuable feedback, had a discussion with my parents last night and most probably will book the beast on Sunday. SA was telling me the delivery will be around 10th January. Can't wait till then.... My wife seems to be already jealous of my love towards Storme coz every night i read the broucher again & again till i fall asleep

Congratulations Mukesh on choosing the Beast.

@ jaydev

First it was not a post written by me , it was a autocar review which compared the Scorpio and storme and concluded that storme is a better product .

What are your requirements I don't know , as per my requirements and choice the Scorpio is outclassed by storme in every department . Only its the low revs and rev free engine of Scorpio which has a advantage and its not a huge advantage for me atleast acceleration of storme is not bad atall .

Storme lx model gives you 4 disc brakes , abs , Ebd , music system , class leading space and comfort , better interiors , paint quality , superb ride quality . Better chasis , better handling too .

I still don't understand why is it so difficult to accpect that a storme is a better product then scorpio I don't know .

Don't get me wrong here please looks are subjective I agree some can find storme ugly and its all fine but a disc brake is better then drum brakes , ride quality is better then its better we can't change that fact .

Reliability is something which will be seen later for storme that is something not , you , me , Gurralla or any member can predict right now .

Whatever impressions are being presented here by any forum member say Gurralla , auto safari , myself , Rajdeep , Sanjay , Mukesh , freak dude , gm88 , tornado78 , tornado , Arvi , mr ranger , vipul , navdoon , bugs and many others are initial impressions of the car .

And all can't be wrong here there is a clear pattern here all have praised and critized the storme for practically same reasons .

Best is to decide seeing the storme and Scorpio in real drive it back to back and then decide for yourself which is better and then stick to it .

Beside that Rajdeep is a classic example of a buyer who preferred Scorpio over a safari but rejected the Scorpio moment he saw and drove the storme . Maybe as per his requirements , budget , choice , taste he found the storme bang for a buck . And then we have member like Singh who is a fan of safari/ storme yet his family booked xuv because they got more features .

Both Rajdeep and Singh's family are right on their part .

+100 to that.

As my perosnal opinion i don't think Scorpio is any close to Storme. Storme LX is a VFM product and if you go higher in terms of budget then why would i choose Scorpio when XUV is in the market. Storme LX for 9.95 Lac, EX for 10.77 Lac and then XUV W6 at 11.87 Lac. For me Scorpio does not fit in here.

Also when we were looking for a new vehicle Storme was a tough contender and if it had atleast a 2 din and side curtain airbags we would have gone for it without a second thought.

And what is exciting to see is that even after having a single din and getting ripped in the amount of features for the given price Storme is gettig a very good response. I wonder what would have happened if TATA provided 2 din and a couple of more features. I won't think twice before saying this but it would have created problems for XUV as well in the market.

completed 1000K no issues not a single one. Storme is still running like a car.
guys I know all colors are good, but if you want people to roll down thr window, ask you to stop so that they can have a look pls plz phleaseeeee buy Bronze color. it looks awsome in sunlight and its a new color. this is not Duster brown pls understand that.

@ Jaydev : what ASS we are talking here? in my case, infact I wrote an appriciation mail to TATA motors the way they are handling Storme customer. Concorde Motors Pune is like my own showroom. Thats they way they are treating thr customers.

btw pls take a TD of Storme whenevr its available in your state. You will never talk about any other product trust me...bet?

Good to hear that Storme is going great and no niggles so far. Keep updating and start a ownership thread as well buddy.

 

[manojodungat]

Re: Tata Safari Storme Breaks Cover (Launch Coverage: Pg.322+)

@ Singh890

I don’t understand why people get very emotional and bring XUV and Scorpio everytime one talks about Storme.

Singh Buddy I was responding to a current owner of Storme who was suspecting certain aftermarket installations for some niggles his brand new storme suffered and to address it he had to go to TASS

I was just giving my suggestions and its completely one’s personal choice to take it or not. You can always ignore it which was preferred by that particular storme owner.

When I bought my scorpio,I had also installed ICE and componets [polk/boston] but got it done through ASS by the authorized personals to be on a safer side. But not even for once I had to visit ASS to address any related issues. After a few months of initial ownership and when I had full confidence on my vehicle and ASS, I did a few more MODS. My Scorpio proved very reliable until today, after 3.5 years of exciting and blissful ownership.

I hope Storme too proves reliable at least as good as its competition.

 

[Superbad]

Re: Tata Safari Storme Breaks Cover (Launch Coverage: Pg.322+)

What's bad in that and there are many of my friends who are in US and have not been home for a long time and they come on TAI just for the Storme thread and updates. This was just a small example buddy.

Answer :
because i do not see that enthusiasm turning out any positive signs at tata showrooms.
They still bear a deserted look. Atleast at concorde malad.

And i have quite a few friends back in India as well who just visit TAI for the same reason and 2-3 of them are current Safari owners as well.

Answer :happy that TAI is first in many respects with storme for bringing up first ownership reports on the web and also bringing out a lot to talk about to discuss. But again i feel that is normal for any new car , many safari lovers were waiting for years for its launch and that might have had a cumulative effect.
Can it sustain that momentum is the question?

What's wrong in getting some MODS in Storme? People do get MODS or be specific speakers and component systems fixed in their brand new Scorpio's or XUV (Which is way complexed then Storme) and if they don't have any problems why would Storme have problems.

Can you please give a specific reason for that?

Answer
a denial for warranty when issues crop up later.
How can one know that modification of alloys may not have an adverse effect on the suspension of the storme?

I have read instances of Mr. D B explicitly mentioning not to fiddle with the alloy specification of cars .
He had gone to the extent of stating that the difference in ride quality was a result of placebo effect and was more towards satisfying their ego.

Congratulations Mukesh on choosing the Beast.


+100 to that.

As my perosnal opinion i don't think Scorpio is any close to Storme. Storme LX is a VFM product and if you go higher in terms of budget then why would i choose Scorpio when XUV is in the market. Storme LX for 9.95 Lac, EX for 10.77 Lac and then XUV W6 at 11.87 Lac. For me Scorpio does not fit in here.

Answer : do not get Me wrong here but scorpio still stays in the reckoning just because it still has a better track record Of reliability for the long term.
That has been the case for homegrown manufacturers that if a vehicle is known to be reliable then it will sell even if it did not offer creature comfort, sofa seats and better paint quality.

The bolero sales is a big testimony to that.

There is No web documentation on why it does well despite many of its drawback but it still manages unbelievable sales figures.

Also when we were looking for a new vehicle Storme was a tough contender and if it had atleast a 2 din and side curtain airbags we would have gone for it without a second thought.


And what is exciting to see is that even after having a single din and getting ripped in the amount of features for the given price Storme is gettig a very good response. I wonder what would have happened if TATA provided 2 din and a couple of more features. I won't think twice before saying this but it would have created problems for XUV as well in the market.

Answer : for many in my friend and relative circle a tata car is not even considered.
So what you might think may be true for discussion theoretically, practically i doubt that.

Good to hear that Storme is going great and no niggles so far. Keep updating and start a ownership thread as well buddy.

Answer : it is a good start but there are still bits falling of a new car,seat rattling for a new car,seat coming off on hard braking , cramped footwell and a low steering creating problems for the storme.

answers are mentioned in the quotes.
Sorry for not editing it better.

 

[Gurrala74]

Re: Tata Safari Storme Breaks Cover (Launch Coverage: Pg.322+)

completed 1000K no issues not a single one. Storme is still running like a car.
guys I know all colors are good, but if you want people to roll down thr window, ask you to stop so that they can have a look pls plz phleaseeeee buy Bronze color. it looks awsome in sunlight and its a new color. this is not Duster brown pls understand that.

@ Jaydev : what ASS we are talking here? in my case, infact I wrote an appriciation mail to TATA motors the way they are handling Storme customer. Concorde Motors Pune is like my own showroom. Thats they way they are treating thr customers.

btw pls take a TD of Storme whenevr its available in your state. You will never talk about any other product trust me...bet?

+100 Sanjay, Oh you have finished 1000km in such a short time, hmm buddy it seems you are driving and sleeping too in Storm, give a breathing time to the beast man. Yes TATA ASS situation is changed a lot compared to earlier days, at the same time we can see the case like a Aria owner on the other thread being a taken for a ride by the TATA dealer. So it still needs to improvement, but it is much better than those olden days when I used to have a Indica.

What's bad in that and there are many of my friends who are in US and have not been home for a long time and they come on TAI just for the Storme thread and updates. This was just a small example buddy.

+100 Singh !!

answers are mentioned in the quotes.
Sorry for not editing it better.

The problem is that, from where you are reporting your figures that there is no crowd for storm in the showrooms, which malad you are talking about, I hope the one in Mumbai, where two of my friends were waiting to take a TD of the same from last 2 days and couldn't due to vehicle is always out. I will make them to meet you next time I come to Mumbai.

Which scorpio you are talking about Scorpio is used to be in once upon a time when no other strong contender was there and to be frank I never see a new scorpio on roads these days, YES if you talk about XUV yes to many seen on the roads every day. Scorpio is a history man, it is just like you are talking about Nokia 6600.

Storm and Scorpio, hmm are completely in different leagues all together, how some body compare a cramped, bumpy halfway made S-UV with the real true SUV Storm. I leave the discretion to your self on this. But to me it looks very funny if some body try to compare storm with scorpio

There is no need to expect to many niggles in storm now it self, let the owners finish some 5000km and then it makes a sense to talk about such things. But remember it is a completely new vehicle in the market and if there any any initial niggles, whats a big deal in that, any vehicle will have them, XUV have plenty of them, but it cannot be blamed. For any new vehicle it easily takes a year to address any niggles, atleast this is proven in India where the car/suv is only introduced in India for the first time and not the ones who run in other countries and correct the niggles and come to Indian market.

One thing is very clear that your posts are always shows your jealous about TATA vehicles which is not correct buddy. I also bash TATA cars when they go wrong, but when some new thing comes up and which is exemption ally good then we should appreciate it. Do not have a "Scorpio" mind set always because your father owns one To me this is not at all healthy way

 

[manojodungat]

Re: Tata Safari Storme Breaks Cover (Launch Coverage: Pg.322+)

Which scorpio you are talking about Scorpio is used to be in once upon a time when no other strong contender was there and to be frank I never see a new scorpio on roads these days.Scorpio is a history man, it is just like you are talking about Nokia 6600.

If I am not wrong around 4500 Scorpios were sold last month. Were they sold in some other planet? Or people see only Storme in everything around them?

I am eagerly waiting for the December sales figures

 

[Gurrala74]

Re: Tata Safari Storme Breaks Cover (Launch Coverage: Pg.322+)

If I am not wrong around 4500 Scorpios were sold last month. Were they sold in some other planet?Or people see only Storme in everything around them?

I am eagerly waiting for the December sales figures

I do not know which planet they are being sold. I live in a city called Hyderabad,Andhra Pradesh,India which is on the planet called earth and I did not see a single new scorpio these days, ofcourse I live a posh locality called Hitech city.

I do not know in which state they are being sold and what purpose(may be for taxis)

It is simple if a vehicle has good sales it is just seen on the roads now and then, this is how a common man like me understand the most number of vehicles sold and not always go and check the sales figures of the vehicle across India.

I think this thread is about Storm and we just stick to it and I do not wish to go into further OT by talking about scorpio sales here and I expect others also do the same too

 

[Superbad]

Re: Tata Safari Storme Breaks Cover (Launch Coverage: Pg.322+)

I do not know which planet they are being sold. I live in a city called Hyderabad,Andhra Pradesh,India which is on the planet called earth and I did not see a single new scorpio these days, ofcourse I live a posh locality called Hitech city.

I do not know in which state they are being sold and what purpose(may be for taxis)

It is simple if a vehicle has good sales it is just seen on the roads now and then, this is how a common man like me understand the most number of vehicles sold and not always go and check the sales figures of the vehicle across India.

I think this thread is about Storm and we just stick to it and I do not wish to go into further OT by talking about scorpio sales here and I expect others also do the same too

do you have the sales figures of the scorpio in hyderabad to infer what you said.
Making such vague statements do not make for good reading.

You not seeing a new scorpio does not relate to No sales of the scorpio.
All dealers atleast M& M Dealers deliver the car with proper number plate installed on the car.
So because you do not see a temp registration on a scorpio does not mean it does not sell.

If you know how to decode the RTO registration numbers you would know which car is new or old.

I do not know if storme was made exclusively for hyderabad.

The thing is you are "stormed" so you wont Find anything good in others or lets say you will find wrong in all other cars.

 

[dharmesh]

Re: Tata Safari Storme Breaks Cover (Launch Coverage: Pg.322+)

Some of these are absent even in EX. No doubt lx is most VFM & all most of these things can be added later. We can keep aside roof mounted AC vents & height adjustable driver seat, but can anyone let me know if rear wiper can be installed later ? I know rest can be done though.

I think so yes. I would recommend not to. It comes with it's own set of niggles.

completed 1000K no issues not a single one. Storme is still running like a car.
guys I know all colors are good, but if you want people to roll down thr window, ask you to stop so that they can have a look pls plz phleaseeeee buy Bronze color. it looks awsome in sunlight and its a new color. this is not Duster brown pls understand that.

Congratzzz Bro. Now you can get your first service done and zoom off to Rajasthan. Please do drive your car thoroughly after service. Otherwise these people might leave something done halfly and you might have to repent it on your journey. Happy Journey mate.

Answer :
because i do not see that enthusiasm turning out any positive signs at tata showrooms. They still bear a deserted look. Atleast at concorde malad.

Have you been to Concorde Motors Malad? For TD or to check how good Storme is selling?

Answer :happy that TAI is first in many respects with storme for bringing up first ownership reports on the web and also bringing out a lot to talk about to discuss. But again i feel that is normal for any new car , many safari lovers were waiting for years for its launch and that might have had a cumulative effect. Can it sustain that momentum is the question?

Can it sustain the momentum, that we will be able to see in coming months. Patience is now what we need.

Answer
a denial for warranty when issues crop up later.
How can one know that modification of alloys may not have an adverse effect on the suspension of the storme?

+1000. After market mods can void your warranty or later on dealer will deny the warranty as it is caused to after market mods applied.

Answer : do not get Me wrong here but scorpio still stays in the reckoning just because it still has a better track record Of reliability for the long term.
That has been the case for homegrown manufacturers that if a vehicle is known to be reliable then it will sell even if it did not offer creature comfort, sofa seats and better paint quality.
The bolero sales is a big testimony to that.
There is No web documentation on why it does well despite many of its drawback but it still manages unbelievable sales figures.

Yes. Bolero and Scorpio have good sales chart record. Bolero will do so no doubt. But Storme launch will affect Scorpio sales will be seen in coming months.

Answer : for many in my friend and relative circle a tata car is not even considered. So what you might think may be true for discussion theoretically, practically i doubt that.

People who don't consider TATA, end up buying MnM, and as far as what I have read on internet from last one year. TATA and MnM are not far from each other in terms A$$ and niggles.

Answer : it is a good start but there are still bits falling of a new car,seat rattling for a new car,seat coming off on hard braking , cramped footwell and a low steering creating problems for the storme.

Can you please give me the source of your information? Any ownership reviews you have been through and these being reported. I know one owner Sanjay, who have happily competed 1000KM and din't have single issue. Now he is going to Rajasthan Tour (approx 5000KM trip). So once he is back, we will get the full detail of problem, issue he faced. Till then just enjoy the thread. And also ask your friend circle and relatives to have a look at the thread. This might change their outlook towards TATA.