Repeated Case of Zero NCAP Crash Test Rating of Indian Cars

[GautamJ]

Maruti Ertiga ASEAN NCAP Crash Test
Suzuki Ertiga scores 4/5 in ASEAN NCAP crash test

Maruti Ciaz ASEAN NCAP Crash Test
Suzuki Ciaz scores 4/5 in ASEAN NCAP crash test

 

[TSIVipul]

Went through the reports and none of the tested cars is either made in India or is made for India. But there is a saving grace; Both the tested cars (ciaz and Ertiga) weigh same as their Indian versions so we can assume that 'maybe' Indian versions also of the same cars can do qualify for the 4 star safety rating. If it's true then this is exactly what Maruti needs to do and bring into their lower cars too.

 

[rselva]

I am glad that the airbags deployed at all! In many cases because of the sensors failure or the car not hitting the right way, airbags don't deploy. I don't know if the occupants survived without back lash injuries though. The crumple of the bonnet is clearly not enough, it seems too rigid. Assuming 1,250 Kg mass of car and occupants, the energy which needed to be dissipated by the car crashing at 60kmph would be roughly 173.6 Kilo Joules. By the dent on the bonnet, it is clear that the energy dissipated only over a very small area of the crumple zone. I hope the occupants survived without serious basal skull injuries.

 

[1989rs500]

These are not Indian variants
Check this out for Ciaz
http://www.aseancap.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Suzuki-Ciaz.pdf
Here is the one for Ertiga
http://www.aseancap.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Suzuki-Ertiga.pdf

If this is the same results for Indian version, it will be great, for MSIL India

 

[Razor]

About a month back brother of a close friend driving a Grand i 10 Sportz crashed against a bus. It was not a very high speed collision . Airbags deployed but due to unstable structure the A pillar and adjoining roof caved in and hit him on the head. Diagnosed as traumatic brain injury with intracerebral hemorrage. Underwent evacuation twice. Now still in coma with one side paralysed.Looking at a very bad prognosis. Guy had just been married for a month or so.

 

[1989rs500]

About a month back brother of a close friend driving a Grand i 10 Sportz crashed against a bus. It was not a very high speed collision . Airbags deployed but due to unstable structure the A pillar and adjoining roof caved in and hit him on the head. Diagnosed as traumatic brain injury with intracerebral hemorrage. Underwent evacuation twice. Now still in coma with one side paralysed.Looking at a very bad prognosis. Guy had just been married for a month or so.

Thata really bad, feels really sorry for such people,
Even such instances dosent evoke the general publics eye,
They still buy pathetic tin cans from Hyundai and Maruti

My brother is doctor and he too has reported some difficulties associated with accidents in weak cars, and all they do is repent after something really goes wrong,

Its always good to take safe measures at first place,

If some accidents occour at extreme speeds its understandable but these ill built cars can destroy a persons life even with a minor crash,
Its high time ,Indian government ban cars with weak structural integrity than banning diesels with over 10 years life and banning cars with over 2000cc displacement,

Any see how long its taking for gov to make the Indian version of Safety testing, they say it will come in action by 2018 or 2019, more than enough time to destroy a whole lot of valuable Indian lives.

 

[sushant_infotag]

About a month back brother of a close friend driving a Grand i 10 Sportz crashed against a bus. It was not a very high speed collision . Airbags deployed but due to unstable structure the A pillar and adjoining roof caved in and hit him on the head. Diagnosed as traumatic brain injury with intracerebral hemorrage. Underwent evacuation twice. Now still in coma with one side paralysed.Looking at a very bad prognosis. Guy had just been married for a month or so.

Really sad to hear that and really angry at hyundai for selling the shitty i10 grand as a premium vehicle. If they have the audacity to charge so much money for that car, can't they just ensure that it atleast have a safe structure. Seriously how much money would it cost hyundai to strengthen each such car.

I know it may seem like just another formal post but all I can do for your friend is pray, and hope he recovers from his injuries soon and lead a happy life thereafter.

 

[soap]

About a month back brother of a close friend driving a Grand i 10 Sportz crashed against a bus. It was not a very high speed collision . Airbags deployed but due to unstable structure the A pillar and adjoining roof caved in and hit him on the head. Diagnosed as traumatic brain injury with intracerebral hemorrage. Underwent evacuation twice. Now still in coma with one side paralysed.Looking at a very bad prognosis. Guy had just been married for a month or so.

Really sad to hear about your friend. My prayers for their family

 

[Razor]

Thanks for the support guys. What gets my goat is when manufacturers omit the strengthening reinforcements at critical places in the Indian models whilst providing them in models sold in other countries as if Indian lives cost less. i mean providing airbags is just a gimmick when the body shell itself is unstable.
My Celerio is currently seeing a lot of usage and running smoothly but I do not feel any sort of confidence in it at all. Really looking to change into something which will give me a decent chance of survival in a road traffic incident as soon as conditions permit.

 

[ggnIT]

Just read this article online, regarding an accident involving Maruti Baleno and Harley Davidson:

Maruti Baleno driver injured after colliding with Harley Davidson

Any comments from experts about the technical details involved into this accident, do you think had it been any other car like Fiat Punto car driver could have escaped serious injuries as it seems that bike fell directly on the car from the front wind shield and roof top and both are not so strong areas to bear such an impact.

 

[vikyjoshi]

Just read this article online, regarding an accident involving Maruti Baleno and Harley Davidson:

Maruti Baleno driver injured after colliding with Harley Davidson

Any comments from experts about the technical details involved into this accident, do you think had it been any other car like Fiat Punto car driver could have escaped serious injuries as it seems that bike fell directly on the car from the front wind shield and roof top and both are not so strong areas to bear such an impact.

thats how flimsy maruti cars are. basically, the biker was riding the bike, applied emergency brakes, lost control, fell of the bike, bike skidded for 25m hit the divider and hit baleno coming from opposite direction. Had this had be doing at really fast speed to have that momentum to do all this for such a heavy bike.

Biker had minor injuries after fall from bike also indicate to me that speed was not much. however looking at the car it seems the bike directly fell like cherry on the car. cannot understand how this could happen.

 

[generalmax]

Just read this article online, regarding an accident involving Maruti Baleno and Harley Davidson:

Maruti Baleno driver injured after colliding with Harley Davidson

Any comments from experts about the technical details involved into this accident, do you think had it been any other car like Fiat Punto car driver could have escaped serious injuries as it seems that bike fell directly on the car from the front wind shield and roof top and both are not so strong areas to bear such an impact.

Though, I am not a fan of Maruti cars, especially coming to its safety, this accident is a different kind. There was no head to head collision. Due to an accident caused by the HD, the bike was almost thrown at the car. The car at an average speed being hit by any object coming at a high speed, will result in this.

IMO,any car that gets hit like this will have the similar effect.

 

[navnit013]

This case is different. The HD landed on the car from the top. ie roof. No car is capable of handling things falling on the roof. Weakest part of the car today has to be the roof. Especially the A/B pillar area.

 

[rselva]

Just read this article online, regarding an accident involving Maruti Baleno and Harley Davidson:

Maruti Baleno driver injured after colliding with Harley Davidson

Any comments from experts about the technical details involved into this accident, do you think had it been any other car like Fiat Punto car driver could have escaped serious injuries as it seems that bike fell directly on the car from the front wind shield and roof top and both are not so strong areas to bear such an impact.

Well, a Harley Davidson weighs around 200kg. If we drop 200 kg on roof of any car what do you expect ?

 

[adivik]

This case is different. The HD landed on the car from the top. ie roof. No car is capable of handling things falling on the roof. Weakest part of the car today has to be the roof. Especially the A/B pillar area.

Sure a Heavy bike makes it difficult, but cars with High Strength steel will probably cope better. The Ultra light Baleno will probably fare worse. Having said that must be a real freak accident. The rider of the Bike probably could not have escaped with more than minor bruises unless the speed at which he fell was about 40-50Km per hour. But Harley skidding in Rains- like my Shogun used to do on TVS Srichakra Tyres. Granted Rain and some mud but one would have expected for the prices HD would have shod thier bikes with Good tyres that Silcon Based.