Actually i feel its better to have sensors than camera.When we reverse we can look at the side view and rear view mirror with a need to concentrate only on the audible beeps from sensor.As the obstacle is approached the sensitivity increases which may be misjudged sometimes when seeing on camera.Also helpful in dark and when visibility is poor .
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- Thread Starter Dr MUDHAN
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That makes sense ![[clap]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Clap.gif "Clap [clap]")
, I did see your City and you had installed the sensors right? What was the cost charged by dealer and how it that working for you?
OT: Docd, when you type, after a punctuation leave one space before you start the next sentence.![[:)]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Smile.gif "Smile [:)]")
(Just my suggestion buddy, hope you wont mind that)
, I did see your City and you had installed the sensors right? What was the cost charged by dealer and how it that working for you?OT: Docd, when you type, after a punctuation leave one space before you start the next sentence.
(Just my suggestion buddy, hope you wont mind that)
IMO,
Sensors are good in the case of regular driving routes or during day times where the visibility is good. So already you can know about the space where you are going to reverse your car, so you don't need to strain much to find your way, just need to listen to the beeps.
Cameras are extremely good for unknown places. Because you cant get any knowledge/warning about the holes/gutter behind your wheels using the sensors.
Yes sensors are more accurate and easier in judging the distance to the obstacle. Misjudging the screen view can be avoided with some practices. We are a good judge in judging the space infront of our car through our practices isn't it.![[;)]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Wink.gif "Wink [;)]")
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About night visibility, It highly depends upon the quality of a camera. I believe an average reverse cam is good at night visibility.
Sensors are faaar enough if you belongs to a well developed region( ie with Even surfaces).
CAM+SENSORS combo are good for the people who belongs to rural areas/ the places where we cant predict the nature of the surface![[lol]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Laugh.gif "Laugh [lol]")
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Sensors are good in the case of regular driving routes or during day times where the visibility is good. So already you can know about the space where you are going to reverse your car, so you don't need to strain much to find your way, just need to listen to the beeps.
Cameras are extremely good for unknown places. Because you cant get any knowledge/warning about the holes/gutter behind your wheels using the sensors.
Yes sensors are more accurate and easier in judging the distance to the obstacle. Misjudging the screen view can be avoided with some practices. We are a good judge in judging the space infront of our car through our practices isn't it.
.About night visibility, It highly depends upon the quality of a camera. I believe an average reverse cam is good at night visibility.
Sensors are faaar enough if you belongs to a well developed region( ie with Even surfaces).
CAM+SENSORS combo are good for the people who belongs to rural areas/ the places where we cant predict the nature of the surface
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That makes sense , I did see your City and you had installed the sensors right? What was the cost charged by dealer and how it that working for you?
OT: Docd, when you type, after a punctuation leave one space before you start the next sentence. (Just my suggestion buddy, hope you wont mind that)
, I did see your City and you had installed the sensors right? What was the cost charged by dealer and how it that working for you?OT: Docd, when you type, after a punctuation leave one space before you start the next sentence.
(Just my suggestion buddy, hope you wont mind that)
Thanks for the adviceWelcome to TAI Ramani, I am not answering your query but have to just point out some important things
* Always check when(Date) the OP has originally started this thread, that will tell you when OP has purchased his car.
* Do not quote the whole 100 lines of text, and a non related question, if there is something you want to quote from there, use quote or edit the quote to reduce the number of lines in your quote.
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* Always check when(Date) the OP has originally started this thread, that will tell you when OP has purchased his car.
* Do not quote the whole 100 lines of text, and a non related question, if there is something you want to quote from there, use quote or edit the quote to reduce the number of lines in your quote.
Please go through this post to familiarize with the forum rules
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Generally, I get response to all my postings.
I prefer to give the best possible information from my side in my thread and the same has been structured as part by part, in such a way that the visitor/ follower gets something useful.
I was wondering about my post ‘THE NEED FOR REVERSE PARKING SYSTEMS’ which I made in response to harry10 as no much interaction happened.
But to my surprise, inian, darkkid85, Figoian, Docd, Kichu, Ramani & Indian … all of our forum members made interactive, sharing of information over the topic and I am happy , thankful to all of them for using this platform.
Yes, Ramani welcome to our forum & eager to see your new car & your thread. As Indian pointed out, mine is ANHC 2013 model and not of 2014 new generation. Since it goes on premium waiting period, I don’t know any dealer will offer freebies.
Please read the entire thread whenever possible, you will feel interesting as much of my hard work gone into it.
I am coming out with some more interesting add ons, keep visiting ….
Regards
Dr MUDHAN
I prefer to give the best possible information from my side in my thread and the same has been structured as part by part, in such a way that the visitor/ follower gets something useful.
I was wondering about my post ‘THE NEED FOR REVERSE PARKING SYSTEMS’ which I made in response to harry10 as no much interaction happened.
But to my surprise, inian, darkkid85, Figoian, Docd, Kichu, Ramani & Indian … all of our forum members made interactive, sharing of information over the topic and I am happy , thankful to all of them for using this platform.
Yes, Ramani welcome to our forum & eager to see your new car & your thread. As Indian pointed out, mine is ANHC 2013 model and not of 2014 new generation. Since it goes on premium waiting period, I don’t know any dealer will offer freebies.
Please read the entire thread whenever possible, you will feel interesting as much of my hard work gone into it.
I am coming out with some more interesting add ons, keep visiting ….
Regards
Dr MUDHAN
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Coincidentally Sir, I just logged in to your thread to reply to the parking systems post itself. Thank you for the detailed post which has helped me in big way to understand how these work. Didn't replied earlier as i wanted to check out the parking sensors with the dealer first and then carry forward further discussion which i couldn't do due to my busy work schedule.
Anyways, I went to the dealer today to check out the expected delivery date for my car. While i was there i thought of checking out which parking sensors they are providing and whether they give it in body color as someone on ***** forum mentioned dealers aren't giving it in body color.
So, he confirmed it will be in body color. Brand is some 3T or St from Autocop. Sorry, i was in a hurry so didn't payed much attention. Cost - 5409 as mentioned on accessory list. Forgot to ask is that with fitting. Any idea if that's including or excluding fitting charges?
It will be IRVM mounted which i wasn't too fond of as during my research i have seen people complaining of rattling. I guess even you have faced some issue of this kind. But, he said they only have that one and can't provide dashboard one. So, reluctantly i have agreed to it as i do need the parking sensors and don't want to risk warranty by getting them from outside.
Also asked him if i get fog lamps from outside will they do the fitting. He bluntly refused that any accessory from outside will not be fitted by them. After reading your ownership thread where dealer has installed accessories for your car i was hoping the same for mine but seems like this dealer isn't too cooperative.
On a side note, your post about the Touch up was really good. As mine is also taffeta white color, now i got a fair idea how to take care of such scratches.
Anyways, I went to the dealer today to check out the expected delivery date for my car. While i was there i thought of checking out which parking sensors they are providing and whether they give it in body color as someone on ***** forum mentioned dealers aren't giving it in body color.
So, he confirmed it will be in body color. Brand is some 3T or St from Autocop. Sorry, i was in a hurry so didn't payed much attention. Cost - 5409 as mentioned on accessory list. Forgot to ask is that with fitting. Any idea if that's including or excluding fitting charges?
It will be IRVM mounted which i wasn't too fond of as during my research i have seen people complaining of rattling. I guess even you have faced some issue of this kind. But, he said they only have that one and can't provide dashboard one. So, reluctantly i have agreed to it as i do need the parking sensors and don't want to risk warranty by getting them from outside.
Also asked him if i get fog lamps from outside will they do the fitting. He bluntly refused that any accessory from outside will not be fitted by them. After reading your ownership thread where dealer has installed accessories for your car i was hoping the same for mine but seems like this dealer isn't too cooperative.
On a side note, your post about the Touch up was really good. As mine is also taffeta white color, now i got a fair idea how to take care of such scratches.
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Dear harry10
Thanks for your response.
Please note, Dealer price quote always includes fitting charges as per HONDA tariff.
The IRVM mounted will not have any issue - My colleagues ANHCs with Autocop brand never have any issues. You will like it and your dash board will be neat and clean, will not create unnecessary reflection on windshield.
Enjoy your ANHC!
Thanks for your response.
Please note, Dealer price quote always includes fitting charges as per HONDA tariff.
The IRVM mounted will not have any issue - My colleagues ANHCs with Autocop brand never have any issues. You will like it and your dash board will be neat and clean, will not create unnecessary reflection on windshield.
Enjoy your ANHC!
Good Topic Dr.MUDHAN. Reverse Parking Assistant is a MUST.
I have a query about parking assistant. My SUV is having a pulling hook on the back bumper. The SUV comes with 4 reverse parking assistant sensors. Couple of times misjudged the sound and the protruding hook went and touched the other vehicles on back. I am looking forward to install a rear view camera but without disturbing the vehicle wiring. I am searching for a wireless camera (power from reverse light), and a small LCD add-on display to view the video. LCD can be powered from cigar lighter power. Any suggestions on this configurations.
I have a query about parking assistant. My SUV is having a pulling hook on the back bumper. The SUV comes with 4 reverse parking assistant sensors. Couple of times misjudged the sound and the protruding hook went and touched the other vehicles on back. I am looking forward to install a rear view camera but without disturbing the vehicle wiring. I am searching for a wireless camera (power from reverse light), and a small LCD add-on display to view the video. LCD can be powered from cigar lighter power. Any suggestions on this configurations.
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Honestly, I don’t have any personal observation / experience with wireless ones. I just tried to understand the pros & cons through various reviews before responding to your query.
1. Most of the wireless type available in the market is sensors without camera.
2. The ultrasonic sensors mounted above the rear license plate that send signals via a wireless transmitter have very short range.
3. Designed for very slow reversing as there is a very slight delay for the sensor signal.
4. Mounting position is not universally compatible for all vehicles. It depends upon the height and size, to get best out of it may need drilling to position correctly.
5. You can also go through:
a. Wireless Parking Sensors & Camera Review | Tests and reviews of the best wireless parking sensors and camera system available for caravan and motorhome owners
b. Wireless Car Reverse Camera Parking 4 Sensor Alarm Kit with 4inch LCD Monitor | eBay
Thanks, Mathew for following me in my write- ups.
Honestly, I don’t have any personal observation / experience with wireless ones. I just tried to understand the pros & cons through various reviews before responding to your query.
1. Most of the wireless type available in the market is sensors without camera.
2. The ultrasonic sensors mounted above the rear license plate that send signals via a wireless transmitter have very short range.
3. Designed for very slow reversing as there is a very slight delay for the sensor signal.
4. Mounting position is not universally compatible for all vehicles. It depends upon the height and size, to get best out of it may need drilling to position correctly.
5. You can also go through:
a. Wireless Parking Sensors & Camera Review | Tests and reviews of the best wireless parking sensors and camera system available for caravan and motorhome owners
b. Wireless Car Reverse Camera Parking 4 Sensor Alarm Kit with 4inch LCD Monitor | eBay
Thread Starter
#267
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I will not say the original ANHC horns are bad; at least mine came with the dual horns.
But many time I felt that it has become ineffective to some people who make me to think whether these humans have lost what I learned in medicine ‘response to stimuli ’.
Unfortunately my work place main gate is being always blocked by a crowd of people waiting for their bus, not bothered about anything except looking at their mobile or hearing to their ear phones. One should be lucky enough to cross them without any issues, or they will bang the car at any side.
So, I thought to upgrade my horns.
Many types got into my analysis… the sound, life, current consumption, and legal issues , even about pipe, vacuum or musical horns that generates noise that is above permissible decibel levels.
I felt, it better to go for the one Honda accepts for upgrade and the proven one as well - The HELLA Red Grill Super Tone horn set. At the dealer, it costs Rs.2250. The horn set price is Rs.1175/- and including fitting charges, it is Rs.1550/-@ outside.
Since I wanted to do some other electrical works which I will share with you later (of course keeping in mind warranty issues), and I was hunting for a good auto electrician.
At last, I decided to try a person through a known source. He did a good job, and replaced the original horns, of course it was inevitable to remove the front bumper and remove the horn socket plugs (special connector) which were attached with the OE ones. The horns are fitted in the centre at the front grill to avoid blockage of sound and sounds reversing inside the cabin.
I don’t know whether it is correct and I am little worried as the new horns should with stand water splash during water wash as the OE ones. Hope, HELLA RG will not disappoint me. The cut- out that came with the kit was not installed as the ampere is almost same & the horns were connected through the original circuitry & I believe they have a relay inbuilt.
Somehow I am not for dual horns with additional switch and I know, I will forget the OE horns after some time.
The horns are sounding good really and I am not a person to press/ honk them continuously to irritate others but expect a simple touch / honk for about a second should give them sufficient warning. It works!
What I observed:
The horns are massive in size when compared to the stock one.
It’s powerful! The sound is so striking, loud but not the one which I do not want, the loudest one.
It’s always better to use the horn only when really required. I honk to make their senses working where some 2 & 4 wheelers do not check their mirrors before changing lanes as well as against some irresponsible road crossers.
The effectiveness of horn mounting is more related to the length, layer and thickness of the mounting strip to minimise vibrations while allowing horn to freely make the desired noise and restrict consequent vibrations. Place of mounting of horns are important so that the sound of Horn is heard outside and not inside Car cabin much.
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FOOT NOTE:
Please think it twice before going for car horns upgrade. It really depends upon your driving style, High way driving, area of living (hospitals, educational institutions and courts declared as silence area), attitude of people, hill & hairpin bends. Though we use higher decibel horns in our practical life anything above 75 db is not legal in India![[confused]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Confused.gif "Confused [confused]")
Category of area/Zone & Limits in db Day time / Night time
(a) Industrial area 75 / 70
(b) Commercial area 65 / 55
(c) Residential area 55 / 45
(d) Silence zone 50 / 40
PART XXXI:
MY ALBUS SOUNDS BETTER!
(This is about car horns -up gradation)
MY ALBUS SOUNDS BETTER!
(This is about car horns -up gradation)
I will not say the original ANHC horns are bad; at least mine came with the dual horns.
But many time I felt that it has become ineffective to some people who make me to think whether these humans have lost what I learned in medicine ‘response to stimuli ’.
Unfortunately my work place main gate is being always blocked by a crowd of people waiting for their bus, not bothered about anything except looking at their mobile or hearing to their ear phones. One should be lucky enough to cross them without any issues, or they will bang the car at any side.
So, I thought to upgrade my horns.
Many types got into my analysis… the sound, life, current consumption, and legal issues , even about pipe, vacuum or musical horns that generates noise that is above permissible decibel levels.
I felt, it better to go for the one Honda accepts for upgrade and the proven one as well - The HELLA Red Grill Super Tone horn set. At the dealer, it costs Rs.2250. The horn set price is Rs.1175/- and including fitting charges, it is Rs.1550/-@ outside.
Since I wanted to do some other electrical works which I will share with you later (of course keeping in mind warranty issues), and I was hunting for a good auto electrician.
At last, I decided to try a person through a known source. He did a good job, and replaced the original horns, of course it was inevitable to remove the front bumper and remove the horn socket plugs (special connector) which were attached with the OE ones. The horns are fitted in the centre at the front grill to avoid blockage of sound and sounds reversing inside the cabin.
I don’t know whether it is correct and I am little worried as the new horns should with stand water splash during water wash as the OE ones. Hope, HELLA RG will not disappoint me. The cut- out that came with the kit was not installed as the ampere is almost same & the horns were connected through the original circuitry & I believe they have a relay inbuilt.
Somehow I am not for dual horns with additional switch and I know, I will forget the OE horns after some time.
The horns are sounding good really and I am not a person to press/ honk them continuously to irritate others but expect a simple touch / honk for about a second should give them sufficient warning. It works!
What I observed:
The horns are massive in size when compared to the stock one.
It’s powerful! The sound is so striking, loud but not the one which I do not want, the loudest one.
It’s always better to use the horn only when really required. I honk to make their senses working where some 2 & 4 wheelers do not check their mirrors before changing lanes as well as against some irresponsible road crossers.
The effectiveness of horn mounting is more related to the length, layer and thickness of the mounting strip to minimise vibrations while allowing horn to freely make the desired noise and restrict consequent vibrations. Place of mounting of horns are important so that the sound of Horn is heard outside and not inside Car cabin much.
[The Origional Horn vs Hella RG Super Tone
FOOT NOTE:
Please think it twice before going for car horns upgrade. It really depends upon your driving style, High way driving, area of living (hospitals, educational institutions and courts declared as silence area), attitude of people, hill & hairpin bends. Though we use higher decibel horns in our practical life anything above 75 db is not legal in India
Category of area/Zone & Limits in db Day time / Night time
(a) Industrial area 75 / 70
(b) Commercial area 65 / 55
(c) Residential area 55 / 45
(d) Silence zone 50 / 40
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Hi Dr Mudhanji, Just joined this forum and this is my first post....
I joined this forum just to say THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The time and details you have invested to write down this thread is simply outstanding. I was just googling for my Honda city Dec 2012(Carnelian Red) accessories and came across this thread... I read it fully in ONE GO :)
Even I did some put small accessories on her.... like DRLs, Doom Light, side beading, sun visor, top model alloy wheels, JBL Amplifier and JBL Base tube, LED parking and Tail light, seat covers, etc
Now planning for chrome exhaust, chrome door handles like you did, also
Universal Automatic Side Window Sun Shade and few more things to cool her in harsh Delhi Summer. Will discuss them if needed, I believe it wont required you have given in detailes already.
Once more, let thank you !!!
And yes there are hundred/thousands of people who have/had reading this thread as non forum member and inspired and guided just because you of this thread. They might not joined to thank you but yes you are doing excellent work keep it up.... I m glued to this thread for very very long time... Even added in my browser favorites...
Thanks.
I joined this forum just to say THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The time and details you have invested to write down this thread is simply outstanding. I was just googling for my Honda city Dec 2012(Carnelian Red) accessories and came across this thread... I read it fully in ONE GO :)
Even I did some put small accessories on her.... like DRLs, Doom Light, side beading, sun visor, top model alloy wheels, JBL Amplifier and JBL Base tube, LED parking and Tail light, seat covers, etc
Now planning for chrome exhaust, chrome door handles like you did, also
Universal Automatic Side Window Sun Shade and few more things to cool her in harsh Delhi Summer. Will discuss them if needed, I believe it wont required you have given in detailes already.
Once more, let thank you !!!
And yes there are hundred/thousands of people who have/had reading this thread as non forum member and inspired and guided just because you of this thread. They might not joined to thank you but yes you are doing excellent work keep it up.... I m glued to this thread for very very long time... Even added in my browser favorites...
Thanks.
@Dr.Mudhan
No doubt City is an excellent car !! With my recent driving experience of 3rd gen almost a brand new City I felt the following
1. Power delivery is not enough was struggling to reach 100kmph and also while overtaking
2. torque is not that good in 2nd gear as it is knocking
Please through some light on the above
No doubt City is an excellent car !! With my recent driving experience of 3rd gen almost a brand new City I felt the following
1. Power delivery is not enough was struggling to reach 100kmph and also while overtaking
2. torque is not that good in 2nd gear as it is knocking
Please through some light on the above
@Dr MUDHAN, Sir do you know whether our car (Honda City) have relay for the horns? I don't see amperes written anywhere on the stock horns either.
I have bought Bosch symphony horns for 550 Rs and fixed them yesterday. Working great so far. My car had came with two horns (one middle and one at the side, behind bumper).
My friends told me, if the car comes with two horns then relay will be present in most cases and these are high end cars.
So I just removed the old horns and plugged in my new horns. No relay used. I have also moved the center horn to the other side so now my horns are in left and right. Just because water doesn't get in and also gives a good surround sound. :)
I have bought Bosch symphony horns for 550 Rs and fixed them yesterday. Working great so far. My car had came with two horns (one middle and one at the side, behind bumper).
My friends told me, if the car comes with two horns then relay will be present in most cases and these are high end cars.
So I just removed the old horns and plugged in my new horns. No relay used. I have also moved the center horn to the other side so now my horns are in left and right. Just because water doesn't get in and also gives a good surround sound. :)
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