Maruti Suzuki Baleno Hatchback: Technical Issues & Solutions

[ameyam]

Gave the car to tge ASC for checking yesterday

Headlight dimming- was ablr to demonstrate it to them. He tried on another Baleno which did not dim. But that car was cold, so idle was high. Much later they came back saying the dimming of headlights under load was happening for all cars

Alternator check- the checked & informed it was ok. However my battery was showing low specific gravity. I hadmt used my car since sunday, so they weren't sure if that is the reason. They put my battery under charging & gave the car with a service battery. With my original battery the car gad stalled thrice & browned out 6 times in the morning 6~7km drive to the ASC but with the service battery and headlights ON in the evening it did neither. The will inform regarding my battery today

Clutch setting- they said the did something but the notchiness is still there. Surprisingly, the notch is not felt in 1st gear if the engine is off

Steering- they said they checked all the steering parts & did a decent test run at 60~70 & found no problems. However the road the did the test om is gently curved, so not sure what they checked. So i can only confirm when i take the car onti the expressway

To conclude, they did almost nothing

Ameyam

 

[Suryaputhra]

1700+ units exported to Japan as well. Once export to other countries will start Indian sales figures will be effected.

In the view of exports they might have increased production, people will feel I20 is taking lead and baleno loosing momentum let us see how baleno performs next month.

 

[bhvm]

ameyam, nice report there.
I guess you can quit worrying about headlamps dimming now. it's just your use is less and Battery gets discharged. else, upgrade your headlight with projectors+ hid setup and be ultra cool.

 

[ashutoshchauhan211]

Hi all!

I recently noticed that my windshield washer tank is empty. What should i fill in it plain water or some mixture?
I am thinking of mixing collin and water and then pouring it in the tank, is it ok?

regards
Ashutosh Singh Chauhan

 

[RDx.]

Hi all!

I recently noticed that my windshield washer tank is empty. What should i fill in it plain water or some mixture?
I am thinking of mixing collin and water and then pouring it in the tank, is it ok?

regards
Ashutosh Singh Chauhan

Hi Ashutosh,
I have never used such things personally before but sharing a link . See if it solves your purpose. It's a windshield washer fluid.
Zessta Windshield Washer Fluid (250 ml) https://www.amazon.in/dp/B00SYL5EIK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_eDfTwbZPJPH50

 

[chsrdeepu8]

Hi all!

I recently noticed that my windshield washer tank is empty. What should i fill in it plain water or some mixture?
I am thinking of mixing collin and water and then pouring it in the tank, is it ok?

regards
Ashutosh Singh Chauhan

Ashutosh,

Though you can use plain water, i recommend you getting screen wash sachet from ASC and put it in the screenwash tank. Cost is Rs. 15/-.

Its a small sachet and the same one will be used by ASC when we give our car to service.

Sandeep

 

[ameyam]

Ashutosh,

Though you can use plain water, i recommend you getting screen wash sachet from ASC and put it in the screenwash tank. Cost is Rs. 15/-.

Its a small sachet and the same one will be used by ASC when we give our car to service.

Sandeep

Yes that's the better solution. Or, if you have car shampoo, make a weak solution of that and use it. The washer liquid is just soap and it breaks up the surface tension of the water after it is sprayed on to the screen, so that you aren't left with water spots once it dries. It also allows to clear any debris without introducing any scratches

nice report there.
I guess you can quit worrying about headlamps dimming now. it's just your use is less and Battery gets discharged. else, upgrade your headlight with projectors+ hid setup and be ultra cool.

If I wanted the projector setup, I would have bought the Alpha na? I found that the white light of the HIDs on the Alpha had mediocre penetration, so didn't buy that car.
The car stalled several times today when my driver was driving it. He hadn't driven the car before, so didn't know of the problem.

Basically, I think the Baleno has too low an idle as compared to the Swift /Dzire. Idle speeds of 550rpm are not uncommon here, and this is resulting in the stalling from stationary and the headlight dimming. I mentioned it to the Maruti Territory manager yesterday and his response was that this was normal. More than the headlight dimming, I was more concerned that this and the stalling and also change in speed of the aircon blower and in the speed of any attachments connected to the accessories socket is because of the low idle. Well, all I can say is, to fix a problem, you need to acknowledge it first.


Ameyam

 

[owaiskhan]

In the view of exports they might have increased production, people will feel I20 is taking lead and baleno loosing momentum let us see how baleno performs next month.

Production capacity gets saturated at some point and it gets tricky to balance exports and local demand .I guess it will take a few months to judge the demand/supply curve of Baleno.

 

[chsrdeepu8]

When i was fixing the horn, i checked the underneath of engine. There is a provision for underbody protection. Seems MS had ditched the idea in the last minute as i can see screw holes and all for the underbody cover.

Now if export version of Baleno has this underbody protection can we indians also get it as an additional part ?
Though i doubt if the export version gets underbody protection as there is no such thing mentioned in the parts manual. And i guess parts manual might be same for both Indian and European version except the engines.

Sandeep

 

[ameyam]

Sandeep, the export version is 60kg heavier. Someone needs to get inside info on what that 60kg gets them


Ameyam

 

[chsrdeepu8]

Sandeep, the export version is 60kg heavier. Someone needs to get inside info on what that 60kg gets them


Ameyam

Ya Ameyam.

But i was of the opinion that the extra weight will be the Boosterjet engine. Leta wait and see what there in export version.

I hope we all will not be disappointed.

Sandeep

 

[!Vroom!]

Sandeep, the export version is 60kg heavier. Someone needs to get inside info on what that 60kg gets them


Ameyam

Ya Ameyam.

But i was of the opinion that the extra weight will be the Boosterjet engine. Leta wait and see what there in export version.

I hope we all will not be disappointed.

Sandeep

Yes. The boosterjet engine and side airbags are additional for export, its 3 cylinder and 1000 cc smaller engine, but not sure whether that contributes 60kg!

 

[Suryaputhra]

Baleno body structure and High tensile steel.

Please see the attached pictures for full body. They have mentioned where ever they have used High tensile strength steel and its rating.

HT steel 340 and 590 used in Dzire. HT steel 340 used in roof and bonnet. While taking the delivery SA said if you want to close bonnet pls drop it from half feet otherwise it will get dent with hand push. My observation, it is very wavy, while washing or wiping very slight push makes waves. One small peanut size fruit fallen from the tree on the bonnet and immediately a good crater or dimple formed. I got frustrated and I tried my self with my thumb with medium force on the bonnet there also dimple formed I have covered these things with Suzuki decal. This the experience with HT 340. In baleno all doors roof and bonnet are HT 340 only.

Coming to HT 540 it is used in some parts in the floor of dzire. While using floor jack, it is just not lifted or dropped these was a dent. It is the experience.

HT steel is immediately bending with appropriate force based on its rating, it is alarming. Any impact permanent structural damage happens.

If so service manual says you can not heat for tinkering and denting you have to cut that panel and use new panel and do welding according to manual.

-suryaputhra

 

[Suryaputhra]

Here is the one more picture for hood, doors etc, In my next post I will write rust proofing capabilities of baleno.

-suryaputhra

 

[ameyam]

What they do for turbo engines is change the stroke length to increase the torque. So the block will be different. A longer stroke will make for more oscillating mass, so will need a heavier counterweight in the crank. Then the turbo is added on top along with associated plumbing and duct work. Thus the 3 cylinder engine shouldn't be much heavier or lighter that the 4 cylinder K12 91BHP motor. It will produce more peak power due to the turbo and may produce more torque but will also vibe more.


The difference in weight would be in body structure, like between the Indian and European Swift


Ameyam