HID Xenons Headlamps: Discussions & Queries

[Prakritij]

Prakritij, I rejected them because they are COB type wide chip LED bulbs which have the most shitty beam pattern.

Many folks on the forum brought these by mistake and focus is totally useless.
Get these-
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/120...688165668.html?spm=2114.search0302.4.2.SNwBRm

else-

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Led...lgo_pvid=4667e12a-fccb-4310-ae9b-525aaec51f86

Yeah, I bought the COB type and they were not good in the low beam projectors, though working OK in the high beam reflectors.
Will definitely go for the CREE types you have suggested in Future.
Thanks

 

[bhvm]

Only the bulbs or the ballasts too? Does it have to do something with the salts/electrodes in the bulbs?

I bought this: ATV Dirt Bike Motorcycle Stop Cut Kill Switch With Start Starter Button | eBay
I comes without the turn signal indicator switch.

1. Characteristics of HID bulbs are dependent on Various factors like age, ballast quality, Salts quality so on.
As the bulbs age, the electrode gap increases, making the output lightly cooler (Bluer) and not as intense.

2. Where is the light switch on this one as The one I suggested had?

 

[Prakritij]

The red parts are of the same switch to toggle between on and off.


There are 4 wire coming out and two of them are crimped to a white coupler, and two wires are free.
I guess the wires with the coupler are for the on/off switch and the free ones are for the starter. It may be vice versa too.
I also guess I have to wire both the switches in parallel to achieve what I desire.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks

 

[Prakritij]

Found a very informative handbook online by Valeo, a leading lighting system manufacturer:
https://www.slideshare.net/ValeoSer...nologies-valeoscope-technical-handbook-998542

I think its worth sharing.
Mods please delete if inappropriate here.

 

[xkcd0137]

I own a Ford Ecosport. As everyone knows, oem headlights leave you wanting for more. I ordered Philips Xtreme Vision Plus from Powerbulbs.com for 1600 bucks. Its performance though better than the oem bulbs, wasn't worth the money spent. Above all that, one of the bulbs conked off within 2 months. Its filament had broken off. So much hype for nothing. I reached powerbulbs for replacement but my fault, i didnt update them with my address change and I couldn't get my hands on replacement bulbs. Have been driving with Xtreme Vision Plus in one headlight and oem bulb in another. Now since I often drive on highways and sometimes end up driving at night even though I wouldn't want to, I am feeling an urge to upgrade. I want substantially better performance within a budget of 1500-2000, which from my research till now seems can be had from LED CREE bulbs only. Kindly guide i below two options are good enough.

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32698331999.html?spm=a2g0n.shopcart.0.0.79c3db02yP0SeF#autostay

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32684222030.html?spm=a2g0n.shopcart.0.0.79c3db02yP0SeF#autostay

Are these plug and play? Will they fit into the H4 holder of Ecosport? Would I need to remove the dust cap? Or drill holes into it to accommodate its wires?

Thanks
xkcd0137

 

[bhvm]

I own a Ford Ecosport. I want substantially better performance within a budget of 1500-2000, which from my research till now seems can be had from LED CREE bulbs only. Kindly guide i below two options are good enough.

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32698331999.html?spm=a2g0n.shopcart.0.0.79c3db02yP0SeF#autostay

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32684222030.html?spm=a2g0n.shopcart.0.0.79c3db02yP0SeF#autostay

Are these plug and play? Will they fit into the H4 holder of Ecosport? Would I need to remove the dust cap? Or drill holes into it to accommodate its wires?

Thanks
xkcd0137

1. Philips Extreme visions, as you figured out are total hype and just a loot for the price they sell at.
2. Go for these- Select H4 type and color should be 4300k. Not 6000k.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Led...lgo_pvid=4667e12a-fccb-4310-ae9b-525aaec51f86

3. They are plug and play
4. Dust caps are usually not cut if you can fit driver inside. If there is not enough space, small splices have to be made to enable external placement of driver.
5. bulbs in your links are incorrect and useless.
6. Budget has to be raised.

 

[xkcd0137]

1. Philips Extreme visions, as you figured out are total hype and just a loot for the price they sell at.
3. They are plug and play
4. Dust caps are usually not cut if you can fit driver inside. If there is not enough space, small splices have to be made to enable external placement of driver.
5. bulbs in your links are incorrect and useless.
6. Budget has to be raised.

How are these bulbs incorrect/useless? These are best selling bulbs at aliexpress, sold more than 10,000 orders. Do you mean that they should be in the range of 4300k instead of 6000k.

While purchasing from aliexpress I prefer a best-selling product or a seller with stupendous reviews. The link you shared has none. Kindly guide what I should be looking for so that I can find the best available option.

Should I rather go for 90/100W philips rally setup with relay instead of this considering the budget then? Will it be good enough.

Also since I am a noob at such stuff. What are all the things that need to be connected when setting up this LED bulb, driver, fan, et al?

 

[bhvm]

A trained eye picks up way too many faults with the bulbs you mentioned. To name a few major ones-
1. Your first lamp has COB chips arranged all over the place.
2. Your second bulb has LEDs positioned side by side, unlike Front-back arrangement with typical H4 bulb.
3. None of those bulbs have any kind of glare shields.
4. The Wide chip COB and side-by-side led provides a very wide, unfocused light source to the reflector, leading to glare and blinding effect.
5. color is wrong.

You can start reading thread from here-
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...dlamps-discussions-queries-87.html#post545552

Reflectors/ lens are precision devices. The Filament and Reflector designs are aligned in such a way that the reflector collects and re- aims the Light rays to generate Light beam, Cutoff and other properties.

Any Change in Light source can cause these alignments to disturb and causes glare and useless beam pattern and light is not going where it should.

Further here-
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...ock-headlight-bulbs-led-bulbs.html#post445890

To sum it up, I do not suggest 100/90. get the LED bulbs I suggested and report back with beam shots.

 

[xkcd0137]

A trained eye picks up way too many faults with the bulbs you mentioned. To name a few major ones-
1. Your first lamp has COB chips arranged all over the place.
2. Your second bulb has LEDs positioned side by side, unlike Front-back arrangement with typical H4 bulb.
3. None of those bulbs have any kind of glare shields.
4. The Wide chip COB and side-by-side led provides a very wide, unfocused light source to the reflector, leading to glare and blinding effect.
5. color is wrong.

To sum it up, I do not suggest 100/90. get the LED bulbs I suggested and report back with beam shots.

Thank you for your advice. Sorry for being a pain in the a**, but could you help see if any of the below bulbs fulfill the requirement.

CNSUNNYLIGHT Super Bright Car LED Headlight Kit H4 H13 9007 Hi/Lo H7 H11 9005 9006 w/ XHP50 Chips Replacement Bulbs 3000K 4300K-in Headlight Bulbs from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group

Oslamp H4 H7 H11 H13 9005 9006 CREE Chips SMD 80W LED Car Headlight Bulb Hi Lo Beam 9600lm 6500K Auto Headlamp Fog Light 12V 24V-in Headlight Bulbs from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group

http://s.aliexpress.com/FzeMbyaa

http://s.aliexpress.com/NBz6nyYZ

http://s.aliexpress.com/i2Y7f6vA

http://s.aliexpress.com/riAnAFFJ

http://s.aliexpress.com/vY3AvYZ3

http://s.aliexpress.com/aaymaMJN

Thanks
xkcd0137

 

[bhvm]

This-

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/120...165668.html?shortkey=7zya6zQV&addresstype=600

BTW, No problem.

 

[xkcd0137]

This-

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/120...165668.html?shortkey=7zya6zQV&addresstype=600

BTW, No problem.

Which color should be bought? 4300k, right?
It has 4 options - 3000k, 4300k, 6000k and 8000k

 

[bhvm]

4300k is best.

 

[xkcd0137]

4300k is best.

Just curious, Philips has an offering in the same segment known as Philips Ultinon Xtreme Led bulbs costing around 9000. But they have 6200k (white) as color temperature. I have read that whiter the light, it is more difficult to see during rains/fog. So how do people with these headlights manage?

 

[bhvm]

Just curious, Philips has an offering in the same segment known as Philips Ultinon Xtreme Led bulbs costing around 9000. But they have 6200k (white) as color temperature. I have read that whiter the light, it is more difficult to see during rains/fog. So how do people with these headlights manage?

There is a forum member just above (perhaps a a page or 2 back) That is suffering the same problem.

Named AKHAN.

Edit-
Link here,
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...-headlamp-upgrade-chevrolet-optra-magnum.html

He brought for 11k.

 

[Prakritij]

There are reports of 100/90W bulbs damaging the reflectors due to the heat emitted.