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Formula-1 2014 Season (New Turbo V6 Era)
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An interesting report about Ferrari:-
Ferrari and the strange Testing strategy:
Bluff or cautiousness?
Mercedes (Costa) thinks they are as fast as the laptimes show, i.e. 1 sec slower than them. They base this on GPS measurements they have done. (Btw, how can they measure other cars with GPS?)
He says that they ran a very strange test program and that Merc could not make any sense about their program and what they were doing.
AMuS thinks that Ferrari could not use constantly the 160 HP of the MGU-K, but usually used 120 HP. All in all they speculate that Ferrari gave away 1.5s because of the conservative engine settings (I assume they mean 1.5s during long runs).
Also, rumours are that Ferrari should be marginal with consumption. It seems now confirmed that Ferrari uses the MGU-K to blip the engine at downshifting.
An Expert: "You do that when you have consumption problems".
Mercedes thinks that this is a waste of electrical energy which could be brought to better use.
Toyota disagrees, they have investigated this for their LMP1 (Le Mans) program and say that doing it electrically has no negative effects and is the best way for the gearbox.
The theory that Ferrari is sandbagging is backed up by following:
- Andy Green of Force India is sure they are sandbagging
- Example Top Speed: In the last day, Alonso reached 339,6 km/h, way faster than the competition. The associated lap was rather slow, 1:35.509, 1.2s slower than his best 1:34.280
- Same story 2 days before: Alonso 338,5 km/h, with an associated lap of 1:40.634.
- And the same the other way around: In his absolute top lap Alonso reached only 308,5 km/h, over 30 km/h slower than what was possible. The Sector times in his fastest lap were not recorded, Ferrari mentioned transponder problems.
- No other team had so many empty data points in the sector time detection. And this in every testing day. Only at the start-finish line and at top speed measurements Ferrari could not hide anything, as this is not only measured with the transponder but also by other means. There are no empty data points with those measurements.
- Adding the best sector times of Alonso, measured officially by Ferrari, the quickest lap would be 1:35.559, 1,279 sec slower than his best lap, which is a "guaranteed" time.
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source: Amus
Ferrari and the strange Testing strategy:
Bluff or cautiousness?
Mercedes (Costa) thinks they are as fast as the laptimes show, i.e. 1 sec slower than them. They base this on GPS measurements they have done. (Btw, how can they measure other cars with GPS?)
He says that they ran a very strange test program and that Merc could not make any sense about their program and what they were doing.
AMuS thinks that Ferrari could not use constantly the 160 HP of the MGU-K, but usually used 120 HP. All in all they speculate that Ferrari gave away 1.5s because of the conservative engine settings (I assume they mean 1.5s during long runs).
Also, rumours are that Ferrari should be marginal with consumption. It seems now confirmed that Ferrari uses the MGU-K to blip the engine at downshifting.
An Expert: "You do that when you have consumption problems".
Mercedes thinks that this is a waste of electrical energy which could be brought to better use.
Toyota disagrees, they have investigated this for their LMP1 (Le Mans) program and say that doing it electrically has no negative effects and is the best way for the gearbox.
The theory that Ferrari is sandbagging is backed up by following:
- Andy Green of Force India is sure they are sandbagging
- Example Top Speed: In the last day, Alonso reached 339,6 km/h, way faster than the competition. The associated lap was rather slow, 1:35.509, 1.2s slower than his best 1:34.280
- Same story 2 days before: Alonso 338,5 km/h, with an associated lap of 1:40.634.
- And the same the other way around: In his absolute top lap Alonso reached only 308,5 km/h, over 30 km/h slower than what was possible. The Sector times in his fastest lap were not recorded, Ferrari mentioned transponder problems.
- No other team had so many empty data points in the sector time detection. And this in every testing day. Only at the start-finish line and at top speed measurements Ferrari could not hide anything, as this is not only measured with the transponder but also by other means. There are no empty data points with those measurements.
- Adding the best sector times of Alonso, measured officially by Ferrari, the quickest lap would be 1:35.559, 1,279 sec slower than his best lap, which is a "guaranteed" time.
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source: Amus
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The Indian blame game
As was generally presumed to be the case the second the Indian Grand Prix dropped off the provisional 2014 calendar, the one-year hiatus now looks like becoming indefinite. Bernie Ecclestone said as much last week, when the F1 boss pointed to the on-going difficulties with the Indian tax authorities as a key cause of the race's disappearance.
With no alternation plans for the Greater Noida event, F1 insiders know that a rest is as good as a termination: with other countries (still!) queuing up to pay our oh-so-reasonable hosting fees there is no reason for a financially beleaguered event to return to the calendar after a break, no matter how brief.
Which is why the blame game has started. Ecclestone points to India's central government, and the bizarre decision to class Formula One as a form of entertainment, and not a sport. (Could the Indian authorities possibly have had foreknowledge of the entertainment-centric plan to introduce double points at the season finale?)
Narain Karthikeyan, the man who made history as India's first F1 driver, also blames the Indian government, although as far as the ex-HRT man is concerned, taxation was only part of the problem. Speaking to reporters at a promotional event over the weekend, Karthikeyan also blamed the local authorities for poor promotion.
"F1 is an elitist sport," he said. "But it has a huge fan following in India, especially in states like Kerala. But the fans need to be educated more about this sport so that they can enjoy it in the right spirit. But sadly I have not seen any effort from the authorities to popularize it."
With the greatest of respect, Karthikeyan is wrong. While the tax issues are certainly the responsibility of the local government, when it comes to promoting races in countries where Formula One does not have a dedicated grassroots following, it is the sport that has failed to adequately promote itself.
India is but one example - we can also add Korea, China, and Turkey to the recent list of 'could do betters'. Instead, we tend to confine promotional activity to a short period surrounding the race, while ignoring the benefits of a sustained campaign.
It is not enough to arrive with a flourish, dominate headlines for five days, and then disappear. Instead, teams should be working with local media outlets to drip feed F1 stories over a period of months, building a knowledge base while stimulating interest. Promotional events should then reach a crescendo in the lead-up to a grand prix, adding to the excitement of a race coming to town.
Red Bull do a decent job with their show car team, demonstrating the capabilities of a Formula One car in unusual environments, but it is not enough. They are but one team of a list of eleven, and the bulk of their rivals confine promotional activities to meet and greets and local landmarks in the days immediately preceding a race.
Speaking last year about the loss of the Indian Grand Prix, Sauber team principal Monisha Kaltenborn nailed it when it came to Formula One and opportunities lost.
"I think it is very difficult once when you leave a country to come back to it - especially where we have not really managed to establish the sport," she said. "We have not been able to market ourselves properly in [India]. We have not been able to convince that many Indian companies. You can count the Indian companies that are in F1 on one hand. We've somewhere collectively failed to do more."
source:kate walker-espnf1
As was generally presumed to be the case the second the Indian Grand Prix dropped off the provisional 2014 calendar, the one-year hiatus now looks like becoming indefinite. Bernie Ecclestone said as much last week, when the F1 boss pointed to the on-going difficulties with the Indian tax authorities as a key cause of the race's disappearance.
With no alternation plans for the Greater Noida event, F1 insiders know that a rest is as good as a termination: with other countries (still!) queuing up to pay our oh-so-reasonable hosting fees there is no reason for a financially beleaguered event to return to the calendar after a break, no matter how brief.
Which is why the blame game has started. Ecclestone points to India's central government, and the bizarre decision to class Formula One as a form of entertainment, and not a sport. (Could the Indian authorities possibly have had foreknowledge of the entertainment-centric plan to introduce double points at the season finale?)
Narain Karthikeyan, the man who made history as India's first F1 driver, also blames the Indian government, although as far as the ex-HRT man is concerned, taxation was only part of the problem. Speaking to reporters at a promotional event over the weekend, Karthikeyan also blamed the local authorities for poor promotion.
"F1 is an elitist sport," he said. "But it has a huge fan following in India, especially in states like Kerala. But the fans need to be educated more about this sport so that they can enjoy it in the right spirit. But sadly I have not seen any effort from the authorities to popularize it."
With the greatest of respect, Karthikeyan is wrong. While the tax issues are certainly the responsibility of the local government, when it comes to promoting races in countries where Formula One does not have a dedicated grassroots following, it is the sport that has failed to adequately promote itself.
India is but one example - we can also add Korea, China, and Turkey to the recent list of 'could do betters'. Instead, we tend to confine promotional activity to a short period surrounding the race, while ignoring the benefits of a sustained campaign.
It is not enough to arrive with a flourish, dominate headlines for five days, and then disappear. Instead, teams should be working with local media outlets to drip feed F1 stories over a period of months, building a knowledge base while stimulating interest. Promotional events should then reach a crescendo in the lead-up to a grand prix, adding to the excitement of a race coming to town.
Red Bull do a decent job with their show car team, demonstrating the capabilities of a Formula One car in unusual environments, but it is not enough. They are but one team of a list of eleven, and the bulk of their rivals confine promotional activities to meet and greets and local landmarks in the days immediately preceding a race.
Speaking last year about the loss of the Indian Grand Prix, Sauber team principal Monisha Kaltenborn nailed it when it came to Formula One and opportunities lost.
"I think it is very difficult once when you leave a country to come back to it - especially where we have not really managed to establish the sport," she said. "We have not been able to market ourselves properly in [India]. We have not been able to convince that many Indian companies. You can count the Indian companies that are in F1 on one hand. We've somewhere collectively failed to do more."
source:kate walker-espnf1
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hi guys, nice videos on explaining 2014 technical preparation by F1 teams
Ferrari
Horse Power - Shell & Ferrari's journey to 2014 - YouTube
Redbull
Transforming Formula One: 2014 Rules Explained (Full Version) - YouTube
Ferrari
Horse Power - Shell & Ferrari's journey to 2014 - YouTube
Redbull
Transforming Formula One: 2014 Rules Explained (Full Version) - YouTube
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Australian GP friday first practice
Pos. Driver Team Time
1. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m31.840s
2. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m32.357s
3. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1m32.403s
4. Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1m32.431s
5. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull-Renault 1m32.599s
6. Nico Rosberg Mercedes AMG 1m32.604s
7. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m32.793s
8. Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes1m32.847s
9. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1m32.977s
10. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Renault1m33.446s
11. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes1m33.533s
12. Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes1m33.855s
13. Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso-Renault 1m34.272s
14. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1m35.578s
15. Adrian Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 1m36.445s
16. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Ferrari 1m40.859s
17. Max Chilton Marussia-Ferrari 1m46.922s
18. Marcus Ericsson Caterham-Renault -
19. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes AMG - - 1
20. Kamui Kobayashi Caterham-Renault - - 1
21. Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault - - 2
22. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault - - -
Pos. Driver Team Time
1. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m31.840s
2. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m32.357s
3. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1m32.403s
4. Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1m32.431s
5. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull-Renault 1m32.599s
6. Nico Rosberg Mercedes AMG 1m32.604s
7. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m32.793s
8. Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes1m32.847s
9. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1m32.977s
10. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Renault1m33.446s
11. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes1m33.533s
12. Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes1m33.855s
13. Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso-Renault 1m34.272s
14. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1m35.578s
15. Adrian Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 1m36.445s
16. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Ferrari 1m40.859s
17. Max Chilton Marussia-Ferrari 1m46.922s
18. Marcus Ericsson Caterham-Renault -
19. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes AMG - - 1
20. Kamui Kobayashi Caterham-Renault - - 1
21. Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault - - 2
22. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault - - -
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Australia GP friday 2nd practice
Pos. No Driver Team Time
1 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes AMG F1 1:29.625
2 6 Nico Rosberg Mercedes AMG F1 1:29.782
3 14 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:30.132 0.507 28
4 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:30.381
5 22 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:30.510
6 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:30.538
7 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:30.898 1.273 32
8 77 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1:30.920
9 20 Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes 1:31.031
10 27 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:31.054
11 25 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Renault 1:31.060
12 19 Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1:31.119
13 11 Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes 1:31.283
14 99 Adrian Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 1:32.355
15 21 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1:32.468
16 26 Daniil Kvyat STR-Renault 1:32.495
17 17 Jules Bianchi Marussia-Ferrari 1:33.486
18 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:33.646
19 4 Max Chilton Marussia-Ferrari 1:34.757
20 9 Marcus Ericsson Caterham-Renault
21 10 Kamui Kobayashi Caterham-Renault
22 13 Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault
Pos. No Driver Team Time
1 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes AMG F1 1:29.625
2 6 Nico Rosberg Mercedes AMG F1 1:29.782
3 14 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:30.132 0.507 28
4 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:30.381
5 22 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:30.510
6 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:30.538
7 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:30.898 1.273 32
8 77 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1:30.920
9 20 Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes 1:31.031
10 27 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:31.054
11 25 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Renault 1:31.060
12 19 Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1:31.119
13 11 Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes 1:31.283
14 99 Adrian Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 1:32.355
15 21 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1:32.468
16 26 Daniil Kvyat STR-Renault 1:32.495
17 17 Jules Bianchi Marussia-Ferrari 1:33.486
18 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:33.646
19 4 Max Chilton Marussia-Ferrari 1:34.757
20 9 Marcus Ericsson Caterham-Renault
21 10 Kamui Kobayashi Caterham-Renault
22 13 Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault
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Australia qualifying and race result
Qualifying
Driver Teams Time
1 LC Hamilton (GBR) Mercedes 1:01'44.23
2 D Ricciardo (AUS) Red Bull 1:01'44.548
3 N Rosberg (GER) Mercedes 1:01'44.595
4 K Magnussen (DEN) McLaren 1:01'45.745
5 F Alonso (ESP) Ferrari 1:01'45.819
6 JE Vergne (FRA) Toro Rosso 1:01'45.864
7 N Hülkenberg (GER) Force India 1:01'46.030
8 D Kvyat (RUS) Toro Rosso 1:01'47.368
9 F Massa (BRA) Williams 1:01'48.079
10 V Bottas (FIN) Williams 1:01'48.147
11 J Button (GBR) McLaren 1:01'44.437
12 KM Räikkönen (FIN) Ferrari 1:01'44.494
13 S Vettel (GER) Red Bull 1:01'44.668
14 A Sutil (GER) Sauber 1:01'45.655
15 K Kobayashi (JPN) Caterham 1:01'45.867
16 S Perez (MEX) Force India 1:01'47.293
17 M Chilton (GBR) Marussia 1:01'34.293
18 J Bianchi (FRA) Marussia 1:01'34.794
19 E Gutiérrez (MEX) Sauber 1:01'35.117
20 M Ericsson (SWE) Caterham 1:01'35.157
21 R Grosjean (FRA) Lotus 1:01'36.993
22 P Maldonado (VEN) Lotus -
Race
Drivers Teams Points
1 N Rosberg (GER) Mercedes 25
2 K Magnussen (DEN) McLaren 18
3 J Button (GBR) McLaren 15
4 F Alonso (ESP) Ferrari 12
5 V Bottas (FIN) Williams 10
6 N Hülkenberg (GER) Force India 8
7 KM Räikkönen (FIN) Ferrari 6
8 JE Vergne (FRA) Toro Rosso 4
9 D Kvyat (RUS) Toro Rosso 2
10 S Perez (MEX) Force India 1
11 A Sutil (GER) Sauber -
12 E Gutiérrez (MEX) Sauber -
13 M Chilton (GBR) Marussia -
14 J Bianchi (FRA) Marussia -
Qualifying
Driver Teams Time
1 LC Hamilton (GBR) Mercedes 1:01'44.23
2 D Ricciardo (AUS) Red Bull 1:01'44.548
3 N Rosberg (GER) Mercedes 1:01'44.595
4 K Magnussen (DEN) McLaren 1:01'45.745
5 F Alonso (ESP) Ferrari 1:01'45.819
6 JE Vergne (FRA) Toro Rosso 1:01'45.864
7 N Hülkenberg (GER) Force India 1:01'46.030
8 D Kvyat (RUS) Toro Rosso 1:01'47.368
9 F Massa (BRA) Williams 1:01'48.079
10 V Bottas (FIN) Williams 1:01'48.147
11 J Button (GBR) McLaren 1:01'44.437
12 KM Räikkönen (FIN) Ferrari 1:01'44.494
13 S Vettel (GER) Red Bull 1:01'44.668
14 A Sutil (GER) Sauber 1:01'45.655
15 K Kobayashi (JPN) Caterham 1:01'45.867
16 S Perez (MEX) Force India 1:01'47.293
17 M Chilton (GBR) Marussia 1:01'34.293
18 J Bianchi (FRA) Marussia 1:01'34.794
19 E Gutiérrez (MEX) Sauber 1:01'35.117
20 M Ericsson (SWE) Caterham 1:01'35.157
21 R Grosjean (FRA) Lotus 1:01'36.993
22 P Maldonado (VEN) Lotus -
Race
Drivers Teams Points
1 N Rosberg (GER) Mercedes 25
2 K Magnussen (DEN) McLaren 18
3 J Button (GBR) McLaren 15
4 F Alonso (ESP) Ferrari 12
5 V Bottas (FIN) Williams 10
6 N Hülkenberg (GER) Force India 8
7 KM Räikkönen (FIN) Ferrari 6
8 JE Vergne (FRA) Toro Rosso 4
9 D Kvyat (RUS) Toro Rosso 2
10 S Perez (MEX) Force India 1
11 A Sutil (GER) Sauber -
12 E Gutiérrez (MEX) Sauber -
13 M Chilton (GBR) Marussia -
14 J Bianchi (FRA) Marussia -
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#38
The season opening race was really a nerve breaking, it was full of surprises with car stalling on formation lap and then crashes on starting lap and retirement of pole setter hamilton and defending champion vettel, young racers bottas and magnuessim showing their speed and talent and Mercedes dominating from start, Redbull Daniel Riccardo being disqualified from second place duel to fuel flow breach (100kg per hour)
From yesterday race it is clear that Mercedes engine powered car has the edge over Ferrari and Renault teams but still reliability is key than other factors as hamilton and vettel was forced to stop from further damage to engines as they want to manage with only 5 engines for entire season.
From yesterday race it is clear that Mercedes engine powered car has the edge over Ferrari and Renault teams but still reliability is key than other factors as hamilton and vettel was forced to stop from further damage to engines as they want to manage with only 5 engines for entire season.
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Ferrari's James Allison admits 'work cut out' to catch Mercedes after first 2014 round
Straight-line speed and braking stability marked as areas for improvement
Ferrari Technical Director James Allison has conceded the Scuderia have their "work cut out" to catch Mercedes and identified the F14 T's straight-line speed and braking stability as areas for immediate improvement.
The Italian marque's management and drivers have made no attempt to hide their disappointment with the team's start to the new season after finishing off the podium and over half a minute behind race winner Nico Rosberg at last weekend's Melbourne curtain-raiser.
Although Ferrari's long-held record for reliability was emphasised by the fact they were one of only a handful of teams to get both cars to the finish in the first race of complex new technological era, they still experienced power issues with both cars and felt they had not fully maximised the F14 T's potential.
Nevertheless, while pleased with certain aspects of the new car's performance, Allison is aware there is copious room for improvement if Ferrari are to return to the winners' circle for the first time since last May.
"While we can take some satisfaction from the reliability shown by the F14T, it is clear that we have our work cut out to improve our car in order to compete on equal terms with the Mercedes team," Ferrari's Technical Director said.
"There is plenty about the F14T that is working very well: The starts and the pace in the corners - especially the high speed ones - are particular strong points, but we need to work further on the stability under braking and the speed on the straights."
Describing Ferrari's Melbourne form as "not acceptable", Allison declared: "But we intend to fight our way back up the grid with the improvements that we will bring to the car."
In-season attempts to claw back performance deficits have become a running theme for Ferrari since their last world title success in 2008 but Allison believes the good news this year is that the winter regulations reset means teams will be able to find larger chunks of time in one go.
"All the recent seasons in F1 have been characterised by a fierce development battle from March until November," he added.
"With all the new regulations this year, the opportunities to improve the car are legion and we can expect the race to improve the cars to be even more intense than normal."
Source: http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12...rst-2014-round
Straight-line speed and braking stability marked as areas for improvement
Ferrari Technical Director James Allison has conceded the Scuderia have their "work cut out" to catch Mercedes and identified the F14 T's straight-line speed and braking stability as areas for immediate improvement.
The Italian marque's management and drivers have made no attempt to hide their disappointment with the team's start to the new season after finishing off the podium and over half a minute behind race winner Nico Rosberg at last weekend's Melbourne curtain-raiser.
Although Ferrari's long-held record for reliability was emphasised by the fact they were one of only a handful of teams to get both cars to the finish in the first race of complex new technological era, they still experienced power issues with both cars and felt they had not fully maximised the F14 T's potential.
Nevertheless, while pleased with certain aspects of the new car's performance, Allison is aware there is copious room for improvement if Ferrari are to return to the winners' circle for the first time since last May.
"While we can take some satisfaction from the reliability shown by the F14T, it is clear that we have our work cut out to improve our car in order to compete on equal terms with the Mercedes team," Ferrari's Technical Director said.
"There is plenty about the F14T that is working very well: The starts and the pace in the corners - especially the high speed ones - are particular strong points, but we need to work further on the stability under braking and the speed on the straights."
Describing Ferrari's Melbourne form as "not acceptable", Allison declared: "But we intend to fight our way back up the grid with the improvements that we will bring to the car."
In-season attempts to claw back performance deficits have become a running theme for Ferrari since their last world title success in 2008 but Allison believes the good news this year is that the winter regulations reset means teams will be able to find larger chunks of time in one go.
"All the recent seasons in F1 have been characterised by a fierce development battle from March until November," he added.
"With all the new regulations this year, the opportunities to improve the car are legion and we can expect the race to improve the cars to be even more intense than normal."
Source: http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12...rst-2014-round
'SUBMARINE' RISK WITH NEW NOSES REALISED - REPORT
Adrian Newey's pre-season fears about 'submarining' formula one cars may have been realised.Red Bull's criticism of F1's all-new era had to be heard amid the depth of the reigning world champions' winter crisis after four consecutive seasons of dominance.Designer Newey, however, had expressed alarm about the new, low front noses, arguing not only that they are ugly, but they might also be dangerous.The reduced height minimised the risk of cars being launched into the air, but "I am concerned the opposite may now happen, that cars now (will) submarine effectively," the Briton had said.
Indeed, an alarming image of the crash involving Kamui Kobayashi and Felipe Massa at the first corner in Melbourne has now emerged.
The photograph depicts precisely what Newey had feared -- the low front of Kobayashi's Caterham 'submarining' under the diffuser of Massa's Williams, which is lifted perhaps a foot off the Albert Park tarmac.A similar incident at a higher speed could foreseeably result in contact between the elevated rear-end and the head of the 'submarining' driver.
Adrian Newey's pre-season fears about 'submarining' formula one cars may have been realised.Red Bull's criticism of F1's all-new era had to be heard amid the depth of the reigning world champions' winter crisis after four consecutive seasons of dominance.Designer Newey, however, had expressed alarm about the new, low front noses, arguing not only that they are ugly, but they might also be dangerous.The reduced height minimised the risk of cars being launched into the air, but "I am concerned the opposite may now happen, that cars now (will) submarine effectively," the Briton had said.
Indeed, an alarming image of the crash involving Kamui Kobayashi and Felipe Massa at the first corner in Melbourne has now emerged.
The photograph depicts precisely what Newey had feared -- the low front of Kobayashi's Caterham 'submarining' under the diffuser of Massa's Williams, which is lifted perhaps a foot off the Albert Park tarmac.A similar incident at a higher speed could foreseeably result in contact between the elevated rear-end and the head of the 'submarining' driver.
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Malaysia GP updates by Ferrari
Malaysian GP - Maintaining reliability, improving efficiency - YouTube
source: Ferrari.com
Malaysian GP - Maintaining reliability, improving efficiency - YouTube
source: Ferrari.com
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Malaysia GP free practice 1 timings
Pos. Driver Team/Car Time
1. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes AMG 1m40.691s
2. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1m40.843s
3. Nico Rosberg Mercedes AMG 1m41.028s
4. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m41.111s
5. Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes 1m41.274s
6. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Renault 1m41.402s
7. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m41.523s
8. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1m41.642s
9. Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1m41.686s
10. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1m41.830s
11. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m41.923s
12. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull-Renault 1m42.117s
13. Adrian Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 1m42.365s
14. Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso-Renault 1m42.869s
15. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1m42.904s
16. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Ferrari 1m43.825s
17. Marcus Ericsson Caterham-Renault 1m45.775s
18. Max Chilton Marussia-Ferrari 1m46.911s
19. Kamui Kobayashi Caterham-Renault 1m51.180s
20. Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes No Time
21. Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault No Time
22. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault No Time
Free practice 2
Pos. No Driver Team Time
1 6 Nico Rosberg Mercedes AMG 1:39.909
2 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:39.944
3 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:39.970
4 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes AMG 1:40.051
5 14 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:40.103
6 19 Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1:40.112
7 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:40.276
8 22 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:40.628
9 77 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1:40.638
10 27 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:40.691
11 25 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Renault 1:40.777
12 20 Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes 1:41.014
13 99 Adrian Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 1:41.257
14 26 Daniil Kvyat STR-Renault 1:41.325
15 21 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1:41.407
16 11 Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes 1:41.671
17 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:42.531
18 4 Max Chilton Marussia-Ferrari 1:43.638
19 17 Jules Bianchi Marussia-Ferrari 1:43.752
20 9 Marcus Ericsson Caterham-Renault 1:45.703
21 10 Kamui Kobayashi Caterham-Renault No time
22 13 Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault No time
Pos. Driver Team/Car Time
1. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes AMG 1m40.691s
2. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1m40.843s
3. Nico Rosberg Mercedes AMG 1m41.028s
4. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m41.111s
5. Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes 1m41.274s
6. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Renault 1m41.402s
7. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m41.523s
8. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1m41.642s
9. Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1m41.686s
10. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1m41.830s
11. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m41.923s
12. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull-Renault 1m42.117s
13. Adrian Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 1m42.365s
14. Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso-Renault 1m42.869s
15. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1m42.904s
16. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Ferrari 1m43.825s
17. Marcus Ericsson Caterham-Renault 1m45.775s
18. Max Chilton Marussia-Ferrari 1m46.911s
19. Kamui Kobayashi Caterham-Renault 1m51.180s
20. Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes No Time
21. Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault No Time
22. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault No Time
Free practice 2
Pos. No Driver Team Time
1 6 Nico Rosberg Mercedes AMG 1:39.909
2 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:39.944
3 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:39.970
4 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes AMG 1:40.051
5 14 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:40.103
6 19 Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1:40.112
7 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:40.276
8 22 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:40.628
9 77 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1:40.638
10 27 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:40.691
11 25 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Renault 1:40.777
12 20 Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes 1:41.014
13 99 Adrian Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 1:41.257
14 26 Daniil Kvyat STR-Renault 1:41.325
15 21 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1:41.407
16 11 Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes 1:41.671
17 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:42.531
18 4 Max Chilton Marussia-Ferrari 1:43.638
19 17 Jules Bianchi Marussia-Ferrari 1:43.752
20 9 Marcus Ericsson Caterham-Renault 1:45.703
21 10 Kamui Kobayashi Caterham-Renault No time
22 13 Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault No time
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#43
Interesting news
In the first rounds of the Australian GP , 2 weeks ago , the cars of Ferrari were clearly off the pace and lost a lot of ground . The reason for this was that for the first two laps of the race Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen could not use the 120 extra horsepower gives the energy recovery system .
The Italian team after the finish started an investigation to ascertain the causes of this dysfunction and found that a fault software problem the central control unit . This year , the FIA, in collaboration with the FOM, is fitting in a routine that does not allow the use of MGU-K (Motor Generator Unit-Kinetic) at the start of the race, until the cars reach the speed of 100 km / h . In the case of both the Ferrari system malfunction prevented any use motor at the start of the race because the central unit never reached the mandated that the cars had overcome the aforementioned speed.
Drivers , with the help of their team , found a way to circumvent the blockade but still had all the power at their disposal. Only after the first pit stop the system reset and did so from then on could use the ERS until the end of the match .
For the race in Malaysia have made specific modifications to the software given to Ferrari for the control mechanism mentioned above , so as to exclude the possibility for this to occur in the future .
In the first rounds of the Australian GP , 2 weeks ago , the cars of Ferrari were clearly off the pace and lost a lot of ground . The reason for this was that for the first two laps of the race Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen could not use the 120 extra horsepower gives the energy recovery system .
The Italian team after the finish started an investigation to ascertain the causes of this dysfunction and found that a fault software problem the central control unit . This year , the FIA, in collaboration with the FOM, is fitting in a routine that does not allow the use of MGU-K (Motor Generator Unit-Kinetic) at the start of the race, until the cars reach the speed of 100 km / h . In the case of both the Ferrari system malfunction prevented any use motor at the start of the race because the central unit never reached the mandated that the cars had overcome the aforementioned speed.
Drivers , with the help of their team , found a way to circumvent the blockade but still had all the power at their disposal. Only after the first pit stop the system reset and did so from then on could use the ERS until the end of the match .
For the race in Malaysia have made specific modifications to the software given to Ferrari for the control mechanism mentioned above , so as to exclude the possibility for this to occur in the future .
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#44
Malaysia final practice and qualifying
Free practice 3
Pos. No Driver Team Time
1 6 Nico Rosberg Mercedes AMG 1:39.008
2 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes AMG 1:39.240
3 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:40.156
4 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:40.387
5 27 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:40.523
6 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:40.686
7 14 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:40.736
8 19 Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1:40.781
9 77 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1:40.891
10 11 Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes 1:41.029
11 26 Daniil Kvyat STR-Renault 1:41.182
12 25 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Renault 1:41.441
13 99 Adrian Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 1:41.552
14 21 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1:42.041
15 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:42.749
16 13 Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault 1:43.539
17 4 Max Chilton Marussia-Ferrari 1:43.977
18 17 Jules Bianchi Marussia-Ferrari 1:44.170
19 9 Marcus Ericsson Caterham-Renault 1:44.457
20 10 Kamui Kobayashi Caterham-Renault 1:46.015
21 22 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 2:05.555
22 20 Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes No time
Qualifying
Driver Teams Time
1 LC Hamilton (GBR) Mercedes 1:01'59.431
2 S Vettel (GER) Red Bull 1:01'59.486
3 N Rosberg (GER) Mercedes 1:02'00.050
4 F Alonso (ESP) Ferrari 1:02'00.175
5 D Ricciardo (AUS) Red Bull 1:02'00.541
6 KM Räikkönen (FIN) Ferrari 1:02'01.218
7 N Hülkenberg (GER) Force India 1:02'01.712
8 K Magnussen (DEN) McLaren 1:02'02.213
9 JE Vergne (FRA) Toro Rosso 1:02'03.078
10 J Button (GBR) McLaren 1:02'04.053
11 D Kvyat (RUS) Toro Rosso 1:02'02.351
12 E Gutiérrez (MEX) Sauber 1:02'02.369
13 F Massa (BRA) Williams 1:02'02.460
14 S Perez (MEX) Force India 1:02'02.511
15 V Bottas (FIN) Williams 1:02'02.756
16 R Grosjean (FRA) Lotus 1:02'02.885
17 P Maldonado (VEN) Lotus 1:02'02.074
18 A Sutil (GER) Sauber 1:02'02.131
19 J Bianchi (FRA) Marussia 1:02'02.702
20 K Kobayashi (JPN) Caterham 1:02'03.595
21 M Chilton (GBR) Marussia 1:02'04.388
22 M Ericsson (SWE) Caterham 1:02'04.40
Free practice 3
Pos. No Driver Team Time
1 6 Nico Rosberg Mercedes AMG 1:39.008
2 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes AMG 1:39.240
3 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:40.156
4 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:40.387
5 27 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:40.523
6 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:40.686
7 14 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:40.736
8 19 Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1:40.781
9 77 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1:40.891
10 11 Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes 1:41.029
11 26 Daniil Kvyat STR-Renault 1:41.182
12 25 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Renault 1:41.441
13 99 Adrian Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 1:41.552
14 21 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1:42.041
15 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:42.749
16 13 Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault 1:43.539
17 4 Max Chilton Marussia-Ferrari 1:43.977
18 17 Jules Bianchi Marussia-Ferrari 1:44.170
19 9 Marcus Ericsson Caterham-Renault 1:44.457
20 10 Kamui Kobayashi Caterham-Renault 1:46.015
21 22 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 2:05.555
22 20 Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes No time
Qualifying
Driver Teams Time
1 LC Hamilton (GBR) Mercedes 1:01'59.431
2 S Vettel (GER) Red Bull 1:01'59.486
3 N Rosberg (GER) Mercedes 1:02'00.050
4 F Alonso (ESP) Ferrari 1:02'00.175
5 D Ricciardo (AUS) Red Bull 1:02'00.541
6 KM Räikkönen (FIN) Ferrari 1:02'01.218
7 N Hülkenberg (GER) Force India 1:02'01.712
8 K Magnussen (DEN) McLaren 1:02'02.213
9 JE Vergne (FRA) Toro Rosso 1:02'03.078
10 J Button (GBR) McLaren 1:02'04.053
11 D Kvyat (RUS) Toro Rosso 1:02'02.351
12 E Gutiérrez (MEX) Sauber 1:02'02.369
13 F Massa (BRA) Williams 1:02'02.460
14 S Perez (MEX) Force India 1:02'02.511
15 V Bottas (FIN) Williams 1:02'02.756
16 R Grosjean (FRA) Lotus 1:02'02.885
17 P Maldonado (VEN) Lotus 1:02'02.074
18 A Sutil (GER) Sauber 1:02'02.131
19 J Bianchi (FRA) Marussia 1:02'02.702
20 K Kobayashi (JPN) Caterham 1:02'03.595
21 M Chilton (GBR) Marussia 1:02'04.388
22 M Ericsson (SWE) Caterham 1:02'04.40
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