Ford Fiesta 2014 Review & Pictures: Fascinating Fiesta

[1989rs500]

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Maruti ciaz with 1.3 mjd will be a all show no go car. But it will sell coz majority of Indians love to show.

Yes but that is what makes a brand succeed, when one is the land where the people eat snakes one should pick the best snakes and say I too can eat snakes thats how most brands do things ,but dedicated brands likr Ford will find it dificult to do that but most disappointing is the attitude,if Ford really wanted Fiesta to improve brand why is it that they are not keeping customer priorities importance, like they showed the Golden bronze and some new colours but if we ask for those colours they say it will take 4 to 5 months waiting, so I am currently disappointed with Ford Indias attitude,
I am going to wait for Fiesta ecoboost or some new car from Ford when they release with good stock,good delaership experience and well sorted pricing,

 

[D.J.D.]

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Yes but that is what makes a brand succeed, when one is the land where the people eat snakes one should pick the best snakes and say I too can eat snakes thats how most brands do things,

You are right bro. Don't know whats the problem with Ford. They are behaving unprofessionally.

But one thing i must say Fiesta is a damn good car. I have driven many cars for short drives, long drives, test drives. Finally took TD of new fiesta last year. And beleive me this is a true drivers car at an affordable price. No vento, rapid, polo etc can come close to fiesta in driving pleasure. Any day i will prefer fiesta over the other cars in the same segment. I don't care about less space at the rear.

 

[350Z]

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Let's welcome the first ownership review of New Fiesta on our forum! http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...4-ownership-review-baby-aston-comes-home.html

Drive Safe,
350Z

 

[Volksjäger]

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You are right bro. Don't know whats the problem with Ford. They are behaving unprofessionally.

But one thing i must say Fiesta is a damn good car. I have driven many cars for short drives, long drives, test drives. Finally took TD of new fiesta last year. And beleive me this is a true drivers car at an affordable price. No vento, rapid, polo etc can come close to fiesta in driving pleasure. Any day i will prefer fiesta over the other cars in the same segment. I don't care about less space at the rear.

True, if you see Volkswagen vento it sells in good number and Volkswagen gives higher priority to sales and marketing than after sale service (why not fiesta ?? ). And yes I agree, German cars are quality built but people are totally unaware of service costs later on. But with Fiesta, people are totally unaware of the vehicle itself (they are treating it like some china mobile, but even i-devices are made in China ). No marketing nothing and Ford dealer in Trivandrum is even careless and lethargic about Fiesta. But previous gen Fiesta was sold like crazy. The biggest con of German cars is, they are built like a tank but they are not suitable to our climate. Trust me on this one ! Volkswagen says that they tested it for 2,00,000 kms without any problems. Yes you can also put on a Lakh kilometres but as the age of the car progresses and munch more miles the maintenance of these cars becomes very high. The point that I would like to make is, Ford TDCI engines can cope up with our climate. They have been testing since 2006 by Ford India engineers and it has been improved over time. My Fiesta TDCI clocked more than a Lakh kilometres, provided proper maintenance. And maintaining my Fiesta didn't cost a bomb like any German car. I hope people understand this difference, because I heard people saying German cars are built strong and praising German engineering, so they are more reliable than Ford. I hope this misconception changes.

 

[1989rs500]

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True, if you see Volkswagen vento it sells in good number and Volkswagen gives higher priority to sales and marketing than after sale service (why not fiesta ?? ). And yes I agree, German cars are quality built but people are totally unaware of service costs later on. But with Fiesta, people are totally unaware of the vehicle itself (they are treating it like some china mobile, but even i-devices are made in China ). No marketing nothing and Ford dealer in Trivandrum is even careless and lethargic about Fiesta. But previous gen Fiesta was sold like crazy. The biggest con of German cars is, they are built like a tank but they are not suitable to our climate. Trust me on this one ! Volkswagen says that they tested it for 2,00,000 kms without any problems. Yes you can also put on a Lakh kilometres but as the age of the car progresses and munch more miles the maintenance of these cars becomes very high. The point that I would like to make is, Ford TDCI engines can cope up with our climate. They have been testing since 2006 by Ford India engineers and it has been improved over time. My Fiesta TDCI clocked more than a Lakh kilometres, provided proper maintenance. And maintaining my Fiesta didn't cost a bomb like any German car. I hope people understand this difference, because I heard people saying German cars are built strong and praising German engineering, so they are more reliable than Ford. I hope this misconception changes.

You are right,its my delaer creating problem but if I buy it from some other delaer problem solved

The reliability of VW twins aint anything to praise about but keeping the Indian buyer priorities and the engineering brilliance of their individual components is what I like

Like VW twins priorities are to provide customer most premium and classy feeling car or in a sensd affordable luxury and VW twins do it best,like the Vento or Rapid these cars are specifically designed for India,Malaysia from Polo yet they somehow managed a classy proportion with good space and comfort
No othet brand is giving one touch auto up/down power windows in premium hatch or c sedan segment,only VW gives,thats a luxury feature
Projector headlamps
A petrol Auto that doubles as a sporty offering as well

And though reliability is weak the DSG is simply best auto gear box in the world taking on the single clutch ZFs used by BMWs

The DSG can make a normal car go faster than some might expect, a Polo GT TSI is real treat and the DSG plays a part,its shifts are that fast and never ever one can shift that fast with a manual,so for a wanna be enthusiast that includes a big population from India as well the DSG and TSI combinstion is more than enough to fall for it.
The engines like 1.6 TDI a bit noisy but almost no turbo lag and that immense torque of above 240 NM thats provided by only VW and HYUNDAI but in HYUNDAI its totally useless whereas in VW it can be harnessed because driving dynamics isnt bad by any means

In a lot of ways VW twins make the best all rounders, even in D segment the Passat and superb are unbeatable cars,loads of space,superb mileage,plush ride,confident handlingbon fact these are better alternatives to Audi A6 ot Mercedes E class

About Ford its a different story ,I like them for the sheer joy of driving they give and relatively easiness to maintain and these two are huge priorities for me and I can forget a poor back seat for these qualities but 90+% of Indians wont even if its cheap enough

I respect VW because even though Bob is a Ford guy he too always compares Ford with VW and he tells Fords actual competition in Europe and Brazil is VW and overall VW has an upper hand even after Ford being cheaper,Bob admitted that he will take a MK7 VW GOLF over a FORD Focus anyday,sure Ford is better drivers car but the MK7 is too close to Focus in handling and yet is mote comfy,he says new Golf is even more comfier than some Mercedes and Audis he has been in before,they have crossed the margins of hatchback comfort and reached luxury sedan levels of comfort without sacrificing handling and not to mention the super high quality interior that can rival even Mercedes and BMWs and some Audis,so I too respect the engineering brilliance they posses but as of now and from whats available here within my reach FORD is the better buy for me

 

[Volksjäger]

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About Ford its a different story ,I like them for the sheer joy of driving they give and relatively easiness to maintain and these two are huge priorities for me and I can forget a poor back seat for these qualities but 90+% of Indians wont even if its cheap enough

That is what I am talking about. German cars are good but they are expensive to maintain. The super reliable German cars which I encountered were 1st gen Skoda Octavia and Mercedes W124. But still I have observed a common problem in Octavia, it's the ball joints connecting the swing arm for my friends car that went bad at 50,000 kms due to our bad roads and the dealer gets a new set and charges a hefty amount for it. And he doesn't get the part from Germany, he gets second grade parts from Singapore and they fail after another 10,000 kms. The dealer charged 3,000/- for the hazard light plastic switch which exists in the 1st generation Octavia. Same with the clutch and other components. As long as the car is original from factory you will enjoy the car but once if something fails they expect you to pay heavy price for it. This is where I loose the fun of owning a German car. And the newer generation German cars are not that reliable when compared with older generation cars. Only sole reason is, too much of technology. Even the Ford Ecoboost engine, it's timing belt is inside the engine and gets dipped in the oil and gets lubricated, thus improving the longevity but when it fails it costs a lot to replace. If you consider our roads and climate they are not suitable, it effects the car in the long run. So, the golden rule with German cars is, use them for 70-80k kms and sell them. But for Ford it's cheap to replace the parts and cheap to service when compared to Germans.

By the BMW ZF transmission is a lot more superior to DSG, you should drive to believe it. I drove my friends 525d and it's simply amazing.

 

[1989rs500]

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That is what I am talking about. German cars are good but they are expensive to maintain. The super reliable German cars which I encountered were 1st gen Skoda Octavia and Mercedes W124. But still I have observed a common problem in Octavia, it's the ball joints connecting the swing arm for my friends car that went bad at 50,000 kms due to our bad roads and the dealer gets a new set and charges a hefty amount for it. And he doesn't get the part from Germany, he gets second grade parts from Singapore and they fail after another 10,000 kms. The dealer charged 3,000/- for the hazard light plastic switch which exists in the 1st generation Octavia. Same with the clutch and other components. As long as the car is original from factory you will enjoy the car but once if something fails they expect you to pay heavy price for it. This is where I loose the fun of owning a German car. And the newer generation German cars are not that reliable when compared with older generation cars. Only sole reason is, too much of technology. Even the Ford Ecoboost engine, it's timing belt is inside the engine and gets dipped in the oil and gets lubricated, thus improving the longevity but when it fails it costs a lot to replace. If you consider our roads and climate they are not suitable, it effects the car in the long run. So, the golden rule with German cars is, use them for 70-80k kms and sell them. But for Ford it's cheap to replace the parts and cheap to service when compared to Germans.

By the BMW ZF transmission is a lot more superior to DSG, you should drive to believe it. I drove my friends 525d and it's simply amazing.

Yup reliability wise they still cant be trusted,they still dont give life time warranty for DSG like how Ford gives for its dry clutch DCT
The parts are super expensive and suspension and some electeonics tend to keep us worrying , same case applies for Ford as well but it isnt as expensive as VW group cars,
The reason why Octavia stays in India till date is because of its reliability and budget luxury appeal that even Toyotas Camry will find difficult to match,Ford released the Mondeo which wasnt reliable and was too sporty for Indians to digest and it was expensive too because all Mondeo parts were imported and was mind blowing expensive
Ford has learnt lot of lessons since then and are keeping a low profile in India compared what they globally are,seriously @volksjager you should sit inside a true European Ford once,its as good as VW except some final fit and finish touches and driving is simply outstanding,The Focus is a marvellous car,I wish Ford will release the Escort at least for India

I agree that BMWs ZF is a cracker transmission but one cant get a ZF equipped car for less than 30 lakhs and even seconds cost over 15, so the best transmission for budget luxury is DSG

Actually Fords DCT is very good ,GETRAG makes Fords DCTs,Ford used wet clutch DCT for powering diesel and some petrol cars which has over 1.8l displacement and more than 340 NM,it was found that the wet clutch design can be good but it still has some issues like reverse Lock,and clutch thatbgets rough over time and will give harsh shifts
Good thing is that unlike VW Ford just replaces the whole system and thusbthe DCT has a better reliability record compared to DSG
The dry clutch DCT 250 system is used in mostly NA engines and small turbo engines like 1.0 ecoboost with torque limited below 200 NM and Thatiland,France,Britain,Spain,and some smallbother European countries get this transmission and its a good transmission but it still isnt well sorted as DSG ,at times it hesitates to shift down and in inclines some times the car tends to roll back
GETRAG also makes transmissions for Jaguar and Ferrari and BMW as well but they are very expensive to maintain but if adopted by Ford will be equal or better than DSG but flip side is since Ford itself has to pay a lot for each transmission the life time warranty that current DCT users enjoy will be lost,so Ford just keeps the current DCT 250

 

[Volksjäger]

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Here are the low speed crash tests videos. It was interesting to see which car can take the most impact. Looks like Ford's seat belts would choke you to death .

FORD ECOSPORT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsmFy0BBDjI

Ecosport started to rev upon crash. May be the dummy's leg went on to the accelerator peddle. No deployment of airbag (which is good), may be the impact has not breached the airbag sensor. Eco-sport's impact area of cross-section is more . The spare wheel itself is damaging the rear door. But both Ecospsort and Fiesta bounce back, lol.

Next comes the FIESTA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-2qcRjIN7c

Deployment of airbag for 15kmph worries me.

Volkswagen Polo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aET2e8LKl6E

I must admit that its a very strong car when compared to Fords and also kept the occupants safe.

 

[Volksjäger]

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Ceo on the Drive with Nigel Harris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzAG2jttIug

Key points:
* Retail sale of spare parts to customers
* 3 new launches in 2015
* Promises to back up customer with good service
* @10:00 secs, He says that they are planning for a 3rd shift for Ecosport to increase volumes.
* They have understood that ikon costs a bomb to maintain

 

[Roadie]

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Great to see good sales numbers. Only people who can goof up fiesta sales is Ford! Waiting for my Diamond white Trend. Next week. :-)

 

[Roadie]

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Nice decision @Roadie whats the on road price ?
Any accessories that you have listed as extras?

The on road price in Bangalore is Rs.10.5 Lakhs for the Trend variant which I booked.Thanks to the 14% heavy road tax here.I think in Kerala I would have got it 50k cheaper and in Mahe (PY) near my hometown, again cheaper.But that will spoil the very purpose of buying it here.The RTO raid on the other state cars.

Will get carpet type floor mat,Boot mat,Mud flaps(essential kit- value=5k) and original Ford reverse parking sensors free.Just was lucky to get the parking sensors as the first sales consultant i met made the promise and I hanged around that.Otherwise for current buyers no freebies they are giving. Not even the essential kit.

Planning to put after market alloys and a lighter shade of sun film with < 30% tint only on the windows.

Please,Can anyone suggest what else I can try which will not affect the warranty?

 

[msjawahar]

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The on road price in Bangalore is Rs.10.5 Lakhs for the Trend variant which I booked.Thanks to the 14% heavy road tax here.I think in Kerala I would have got it 50k cheaper and in Mahe (PY) near my hometown, again cheaper.But that will spoil the very purpose of buying it here.The RTO raid on the other state cars.

Will get carpet type floor mat,Boot mat,Mud flaps(essential kit- value=5k) and original Ford reverse parking sensors free.Just was lucky to get the parking sensors as the first sales consultant i met made the promise and I hanged around that.Otherwise for current buyers no freebies they are giving. Not even the essential kit.

Planning to put after market alloys and a lighter shade of sun film with < 30% tint only on the windows.

Please,Can anyone suggest what else I can try which will not affect the warranty?

is there a provision for USB Drive ? If not you can get a Pocket MP3 player (Philips) and connect it to the Aux and use it. Im using it in my Fiesta (Style).

Just try with 3D mats or Noodle mats (per piece is 350 rs i guess).

You can also fit the center arm rest. Its really useful.

 

[Volksjäger]

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The on road price in Bangalore is Rs.10.5 Lakhs for the Trend variant which I booked.Thanks to the 14% heavy road tax here.I think in Kerala I would have got it 50k cheaper and in Mahe (PY) near my hometown, again cheaper.But that will spoil the very purpose of buying it here.The RTO raid on the other state cars.

Will get carpet type floor mat,Boot mat,Mud flaps(essential kit- value=5k) and original Ford reverse parking sensors free.Just was lucky to get the parking sensors as the first sales consultant i met made the promise and I hanged around that.Otherwise for current buyers no freebies they are giving. Not even the essential kit.

Planning to put after market alloys and a lighter shade of sun film with < 30% tint only on the windows.

Please,Can anyone suggest what else I can try which will not affect the warranty?

First I would like to Congratulate you on your purchase. You have made the right choice on the color front.

And I advice you, not to go for aftermarket alloy wheels. Since they are Lug-centric and not hub-centric. Aftermarket Alloy wheels hub circumference is universal. Even your rims are hub-centric. If you want to know more about this, I have already shared a YouTube video regarding this in the link below.
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/indian-auto-news/14105-ford-fiesta-facelift-2014-launched-price-rs-7-69-lakh-26.html

Here in India, I doubt whether alloy wheel dealers know anything about spacers. So, I suggest that you go with the alloy wheels provided by Ford. They cost around 27,000/- for a set of 4. And they fit precisely for your vehicle and you need not doubt the quality of the wheels. When you use aftermarket alloys, the entire weight of the car stands on the studs but not on the hub, which causes vibration, can bend the studs in the long run.

The weight of the car supposed to stand on the hub and not on the lugs (studs). The lugs and bolts are only for holding the alloy wheel to the hub.

And coming to the tint, when I came to B'lore, I had tint to the front windshield and bengaluru cops could easily identify it. But at that time, tint rule wasn't passed in Hyderabad. I told the same and they left me since my vehicle is AP regd. But they usually hunt down other state vehicles.

 

[dev7]

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Isn't there any way to make aftermarket alloys hub-centric?

 

[Volksjäger]

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Isn't there any way to make aftermarket alloys hub-centric?

Have you seen the video in the link that I shared ? Yes, you can make it hub-centric by adding appropriate hub-centric rings, but nothing is better than original. We go for alloy wheels to loose the unsprung weight. And the hub-centric ring thickness should match the thickness of the alloy wheel around the hub. In a nutshell, the weight of the car must be on the hub and not on the lugs. If you can achieve this with an aftermarket alloy wheel then you are good to go.