Ford EcoSport Review & Pictures

[1989rs500]

Re: Is this Normal? Final Call before I sell car

Thats why each time they ask from where I got my Ambiene Lights attached and also called dealer.

I had raised via social media. I am dealing with UNETHICAL, CHEAP PEOPLE HERE. Read next post how nasty they can get to harrass someone

Simply read email exchanges and you will know what I mean.

Ford NEW LOW - IF I SUFFER due to STRESS _ FORD WILL BE RESPONSIBLE.


Strange or shocking bit it, FB and Twitter of US,India, UK all updated with these incidence, still they acting cheap.

In a new cheap trick, I took Monday -Tuesday as off from ofifce and they did nothing. Now only offering appointment on Thursday and misrepresenting that I asked for it.

I had clearly told SM I am out of town next week and thus they doing it to put onus on me that I was unavailable.

THEY KNOW SOMETHING IS WRONG - I agree with wiring thing can be potential, thats why they checked wiring as well last time. But not gonna accept it as it will be 3 years of incompetence getting proved.

THEY ARE SICK MUST SAY THAT.

Dear Esmaniac
I guess @vccground.summit has found the issue and seems to be solved, if @Esmaniac is still having this issue change the Radiator fans resistor, DONOT TAKE HELP FROM FASS take the car to some other private service center and have this done
I personally think @Esmanic is really pissed off with FASS and @Esmaniac has all the right to be so , but the product Ecosport is a good product, dare I say the best Ford car launched in India by Ford Mo Co so far.

Fkn A. SOLVED.

If resistor is faulty, you can have one of two settings.

Fan will be off or will rotate at full speed since mid voltages will not be understood by short resistor.

Ford checked my radiator resistor through multimeter. They made sure i was not able to see the result. Changed the part and problem gone.

Part looked somewhat like below

image

I recommend below video for better explanation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjJMnDT-hN0


THANKS ALL.

Yes this was exactly what I was suspecting, I was suspecting the same with Ford AC blower FAN as the noise seemed to come from AC blower FAN in @Esmaniac s car, anyway keep us updated on the Ecosport and its GOOD and BAD and UGLY things as forums like these are the places where we can find solutions and even discuss issues and take necessary measures

 

[Esmaniac]

Re: Is this Normal? Final Call before I sell car

Dear Esmaniac
I guess @vccground.summit has found the issue and seems to be solved, if @Esmaniac is still having this issue change the Radiator fans resistor, DONOT TAKE HELP FROM FASS take the car to some other private service center and have this done
I personally think @Esmanic is really pissed off with FASS and @Esmaniac has all the right to be so , but the product Ecosport is a good product, dare I say the best Ford car launched in India by Ford Mo Co so far.


Yes this was exactly what I was suspecting, I was suspecting the same with Ford AC blower FAN as the noise seemed to come from AC blower FAN in @Esmaniac s car, anyway keep us updated on the Ecosport and its GOOD and BAD and UGLY things as forums like these are the places where we can find solutions and even discuss issues and take necessary measures

Thanks Guys. FASS guys really insulted us. There is another user who was with me who is facing same issue.

Ford Engineer Vincent was staring at us, gigling and told me I never raised vibration issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1pbmRADKUs

Ford Gm Muthwani was with him who refused to open the hood. What a disgrace. who refuses to OPEN HOOD.

They took car readings when issue was not there. issue usually is there after car has run for a while. They must have presented same reading to US leadership to make me appear as fool. They said we shall re check car after lunch after its run. Guess what, they refused to even open the HOOD or Recheck the reading using ECM. They had done what they came for - Check car and take readings when issue is not there.

They for a change accepted - My car had frequent RPM shifts in previous visits ( it was 7 times in 60 sec), however, as I could not produce it now, it is non issue. I was like why you had called em again. They said even 7 cuts in 1 minutes are within specs. They were contradicting own statements. Intent was to just is insult us

Other user, was made to wait for 4 hours and no once even catered to him.

I am so much fed up, I am keeping car as advocate is filing the case soon. So it is an evidence.

They have blocked me from FB as well. Its a shame that instead of solving issue - They acting like GOONS. Vincent was staring at 3 of us and laughing at us.

Thye changed PCM as well as RPM were suddenly very low. I asked them to reset and was willing to pay as well, they refused. They said nothing was done. My intent was to check if they did change anything. They simply refused. I realised I am dealing with people

I will for sure try what fellows have suggested. Damn it is a good car, destroyed by idiots.

Read that Ford's new head has limited automobile industry credentials. Because he could increase dealership count he was moved from rank of VP to Head. He was with a KPO earlier as VP.

Wrong guy may be at job and his engineers taking him for a ride - just supporting dealership for reasons well known to us.

They are so high headed, not even responding to emails.

Even a simple steering issue is not yet resolved. Since tire change it is left tilted and has calibiration issues.

Everything they touch is gone for a toss. 3 visits and its still there. How they manage to do this. Willingly? Jesus,please launch S cross AT or WRV CVT. My plan to get Ford ES AT is dusted since this issue started.

 

[Esmaniac]

They are also tracking my car. I moved to a new Dealership and earlier dealership guy said it may be due to - MASS, ETB, Engine, AC Condenso etc.

They asked me to leave the car.

When I reached to pick the car, guess what, Vincent was there till 18:30.

Offcourse, we know the reason. No surprises, car was returned after saying all is fine.

Earlier same guys said it got issues. THEY ARE SO CHEAP...DISGUSTING. They are tracking my moves.

What a shame and scam.

Fkn A. SOLVED.

If resistor is faulty, you can have one of two settings.

Fan will be off or will rotate at full speed since mid voltages will not be understood by short resistor.

Ford checked my radiator resistor through multimeter. They made sure i was not able to see the result. Changed the part and problem gone.

Part looked somewhat like below

image

I recommend below video for better explanation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjJMnDT-hN0


THANKS ALL.

Mr Sumit, which Harpreet ford you had visisted. Why they messing with me and other user.

Just because we escalated the matter.

My car had vibrations as well and noise like Indica inside the cabin. Did you face same issues?

So are every brand dude, see just dont think that Ford is the only brand with such issues, even I had a lot of issues with the ever famous Maruti Suzuki , but since there were like 10 service and sales outlets here in my city one of them somehow found the issue and still they couldnt fix it but found a temporary solution(it was a car bearing issue) it still popped up here and there and was frustrating at times, but see how much Maruti customer satisfaction for Maruti brand is for a huge pie of our population
Again I think I have mentioned about my friends Linea as well, the gearbox still defective and even now after 3 years he still drives it with the issue

Skoda Octavia Pulled By Donkeys In India - DriveSpark

here is the ever famous reliability king Toyota

Skoda Octavia sedan owner in India gets donkeys to pull car

Frustrated Etios owner places Ad with complaints - Team-BHP

https://www.complaintboard.in/complaints-reviews/toyota-etios-l125714.html

See there are lot of issues but I agree Ford is not perfect either it too does have issues

I can understand the frustration and owner has to face but reality is its not just Ford, @Esmaniac has suggested friends Honda and Hyundai or some other brands as well right, but whats so sure that they will be trouble free.

Bro but no one acted like Goons. Imagine when Engineer from Ford, stare at you or GM says we are lying about vibrations, it is a different level.

I had a H city and Santro as well and never had an issue with either. Family owns other cars as well.

Problem here is quality or lack of it rather, of people involved. They are simply behaving like Goons.

 

[vccground.sumit]

Re: Is this Normal? Final Call before I sell car

Mr Sumit, which Harpreet ford you had visisted. Why they messing with me and other user.

Just because we escalated the matter.

My car had vibrations as well and noise like Indica inside the cabin. Did you face same issues?

Please note that it was my hunch and persistence that Ford replaced Radiator Resistor. I got so much from this forum that Ford is not going to work on ambiguous problem statements, rather they would like spoon feeding them direct issue.

From the video you posted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDJsjCsY2Ec

It was same issue with mine. Only thing is since its happening in your car from the beginning, radiator fan noise has become much more with vibrations.

I would ask you to get the radiator resistor checked through local mechanic. Its not that hard to take out and check through ordinary multimeter. Just 10 min work through any mechanic.

I got my car checked through Bosch, Mahindra first choice and all places are filled with lemons. Only thing good about Bosch is that they have the equipment to check Ecosport ECU.

Not trying to teach you but this is how i proceeded.

The basics thing is computer calculations will go wrong, in any firmware, if feedback circuits are not correctly working. So Resistor, Relay and wiring can one of the issue with your car since problem in ECU or programming would affect much more cars. I didn't say thermostat since it seems to be working.

Below is a basic video and step by step process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euVSghFWVPQ

And video that i posted earlier.

 

[Esmaniac]

1.5 TDCi , 18000kms . No jerk but Fluctuation on RPM gauge - YES . Exactly like yours (in the video) average has decreased since past one month 15 kmpl. I will go for service and oil change next week and will explain this condition .

What was the final result man? We have got no answers from FORD ASC

 

[AbhinavJain]

Can anyone tell, which Tweeters will be best for Ford Ecosport. I have Ecosport Diesel Titanium (O) (2016). My Budget is 3K.

i also want to know placing tweeters in the designated place on door is good or shall I get them placed on Dashboard by making some adjustment.s

Thanks in Advance.
Abhinav Jain

 

[D.J.D.]

70000 KM Service update

Friends,

Yesterday I got my Ecosport TDCi serviced for 70k KM. Gave my car at 9:30 AM and got my vehicle back by 3 PM. Servicing was smooth without any issue. After servicing the car has become butter smooth. Pick up has improved as well as AC effectiveness. I complained about rear hatch rattling and the same has been fixed. Seems, this time service center guys did something special about the rear hatch rattling. Now, there is not a single squeak from the rear hatch. Let’s see how long it will be like this.

Oil and oil filter have been replaced, air filter was cleaned. Sound from the engine guard (bottom of the engine) has been fixed.

Total damage to my pocket Rs.4500/-.

I enquired about 5th year warranty. But SA informed that it has to be procured within 6 months from the purchase date. That means this 5th year warranty is not for the Ecosports from earlier batches.

BTW, I am enjoying each and every kilometer with my car. A fantastic machine for daily office run as well as long highway travels. Even after 4 years in the market this car still looks fresh

 

[1989rs500]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DjAjrZh1ss
2018 Ecosport AWD 1st test drive
Here is a short review of the new Ecosport as well
https://translate.google.co.in/tran...titanium-2018-avaliacao-em-video/&prev=search

Seems like Ford has hit the nail right where it needs to be,
Now the question is will all these things come to India, I am glad that they have turned to a new 6 speed torque converter AT than the Getrag DCT 150
Better interior
Better aerodynamics
Better cabin insulation
Better structure and rigidity for chassis
Better suspension
Better seats
better boot interior
Better features too on offer

A lot has changed although from outside it dosent seem so

 

[vccground.sumit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DjAjrZh1ss
2018 Ecosport AWD 1st test drive
Here is a short review of the new Ecosport as well
https://translate.google.co.in/tran...titanium-2018-avaliacao-em-video/&prev=search

Seems like Ford has hit the nail right where it needs to be,
Now the question is will all these things come to India, I am glad that they have turned to a new 6 speed torque converter AT than the Getrag DCT 150
Better interior
Better aerodynamics
Better cabin insulation
Better structure and rigidity for chassis
Better suspension
Better seats
better boot interior
Better features too on offer

A lot has changed although from outside it dosent seem so

This one seems to have sound system from Sony. I am hoping Ford launches 10 speaker Bang & Olufsen 675Watt system. I may consider replacing my Ecosport with new one.

As i said earlier, i also have Creta but love Ecosport specially in Traffic conditions and Mountainous terrain where tight roads and parking is an issue. Only thing missing is that luxurious feel and other gizmos / gadgets that make me NOT feel like driving a Ford Pickup.

70000 KM Service update

Friends,

Yesterday I got my Ecosport TDCi serviced for 70k KM. Gave my car at 9:30 AM and got my vehicle back by 3 PM. Servicing was smooth without any issue. After servicing the car has become butter smooth. Pick up has improved as well as AC effectiveness. I complained about rear hatch rattling and the same has been fixed. Seems, this time service center guys did something special about the rear hatch rattling. Now, there is not a single squeak from the rear hatch. Let’s see how long it will be like this.

Oil and oil filter have been replaced, air filter was cleaned. Sound from the engine guard (bottom of the engine) has been fixed.

Total damage to my pocket Rs.4500/-.

I enquired about 5th year warranty. But SA informed that it has to be procured within 6 months from the purchase date. That means this 5th year warranty is not for the Ecosports from earlier batches.

BTW, I am enjoying each and every kilometer with my car. A fantastic machine for daily office run as well as long highway travels. Even after 4 years in the market this car still looks fresh

I am inclined towards upgrading to Mobil 1 Synthetic oil 5W-30. I recently had a trip to hill station and it was packed. There was traffic jam and once i noted my engine couldn't produce enough torque from standstill towards an inclination in Traffic Jam, it wasn't very steep. It felt like Engine was out of breath during last leg of the journey and that weird burn smell that comes out of every diesel engine.

Traffic Jam in a Hilly Terrain can quickly exhaust your engine, like 5 Kms are enough. I think i will directly reach out to Mobil1 team if they can explain.

 

[1989rs500]

I am inclined towards upgrading to Mobil 1 Synthetic oil 5W-30. I recently had a trip to hill station and it was packed. There was traffic jam and once i noted my engine couldn't produce enough torque from standstill towards an inclination in Traffic Jam, it wasn't very steep. It felt like Engine was out of breath during last leg of the journey and that weird burn smell that comes out of every diesel engine.

Traffic Jam in a Hilly Terrain can quickly exhaust your engine, like 5 Kms are enough. I think i will directly reach out to Mobil1 team if they can explain.

Actually 5W30 wont improve engine pick up, but refinement might improve, and its in the long terms the benefit of synthetic is more felt, in short term mineral will do just fine, and Ecosports engine has to lug an unladen 1290 kg weight, so with 4 the gross weight can go upto 1500 kgs, so Its quiet natural the car will feel out of breath, and with altitude there is less air for the engine to suck in and less power,
Keep an eye on the exhaust while doing such hilly sections, bluish or whitish exhaust smells danger, otherwise no issues .

 

[dearcar]

How many mounts in ES?? 2 or 3??

Letter mailed to Ford after getting a rude reply from Service Executive

To The Concerned Person,

This is with reference to my Ford Ecosport Vin No. DB13258, REg No. MH04 GE 5039, registered in the name of Mrs. Vrriti Mirchandani, of which I am very much dissapointed today when I got this foolish reply rather rude reply from your Service Executive - Amit Shelvakar, working at Talera Ford Workshop Pune.

Well, if you open up my service history, you will find that I took my car at the Talera Ford workshop within 7-10 days after delivery for the problem of "TAK TAK NOISE at accelerating, even at small bumps, clutch release noise".
I got a reply from them Sir, its very common in many Ecosports, we are still diagnosing all and everytime they said there is no problem at all, and I am worrying for no reason.

Even at the time of First Service, they said specially the abovenamed, Amit, he told me no problem. When I told him to let me sit in someone elses Ecosport and let me check, everytime he ignored and didnt made me check.

That on 24-10-2013, I gave my car to solve some rattling noises along with this same TAK TAK noise. At that time I forcefully asked Amit to check another car in front of me. He nicely sat in the other car and fooled me saying Sir, TAK TAK noise is coming in this also. At that time I made him sit with me and told him to make me notice the said noise. Guess what at that time he became silent and said "OK SIR, I YOU ARE RIGHT ONLY YOUR CAR HAS THAT FAULTY NOISE, I WILL GET IT CHECKED".

After keeping my car at their workshop for almost 2 days, Amit finally said that noise is faulty and is coming from Engine Mount, the whole parts needs to be replaced, it will be done under warranty. He said that he had already placed the order and the part will reach Pune on Tuesday 29-10-2013 and on 30-10-2013 he will get the said part replaced in my car and after that all noises will go away.

That today afternoon I asked him for the part arrival, he said that Ford does not have that part, he doesnt even know when will the part get manufactured and when will it come to his workshop. He behaved very rude to me, and when I said that atleast give me one date, he simply said NO IDEA.When I told him that I will have to unfortunately mail to Ford for your such behaviour, he simply said YEs dot it and hanged up the phone.

I amvery much depressed over this.
Please Ford I request you to look after this whole case and revert me with same.
Also I forgot to mention in my mail, that after daignosing the problem of Engine mount failure, I have been constantly asking many people about the consequences that can happen because of this.
Some of them told me that the because of this problem engine mount can totally fail at sometimes and the engine will get tilted/bounced totally on one side. Now Imagine of this happening when I am out on a highway driving at a speed of 80-90 kmph, it can lead to a serious/fatal accident.

Please Ford I request you to kindly look into this seriously and help with some solution as early as possible.
I believe Ford being a reputed company, will not let me down.

Thanking You in advance.

I know of someone in whose case they took 3+ years to accept Mounts got an issue.

Anyone here can tell how many mounts in ES?

2 mounts changed still vibrations at 800 RPM which goes away when A paddle is pressed. Is there 3rd Mount as well?

 

[1989rs500]

Re: How many mounts in ES?? 2 or 3??

I know of someone in whose case they took 3+ years to accept Mounts got an issue.

Anyone here can tell how many mounts in ES?

2 mounts changed still vibrations at 800 RPM which goes away when A paddle is pressed. Is there 3rd Mount as well?

Usually 3 engine mounts and 2 for transmission , so in total 5

 

[dearcar]

Re: How many mounts in ES?? 2 or 3??

Usually 3 engine mounts and 2 for transmission , so in total 5

I would doubt that. They said there are just 3.

Does EM got something to do with Humming Noise on idle? With AC on.

 

[1989rs500]

Re: How many mounts in ES?? 2 or 3??

I would doubt that. They said there are just 3.

Does EM got something to do with Humming Noise on idle? With AC on.

Yes engine mounts can get weak over time and the mounts have both rubber and steel parts even if rubber wears out there can be slight natural frequency of vibration entering metals and this can create near resonant vibrations which can be felt even in driver foot pedals and steering

the transmission mounts usually wont be counted as engine mounts so in general they say its just 3, but transmission too does need mounts as they are coupled to engines , so I said 5, for engine only its 3.

 

[Esmaniac]

Cheapness Exposed ---FORD INDIA

In my last visit, GM & Engineer refused to open car hood. That indicated that they wanted to harass us. We visited another dealership unfortunately, Ford Engineer was already there and thus car was not repaired. Earlier same guy said car got issues.

A week later, we visited another NEW DEALERSHIP. Their system was yet to go online with Ford India.

They agreed to change parts and accept car has issues. They were shocked that Harpreet Ford and Ford Engineer could not identify the same.

They changed Mounts(2) & a Fan Assembly. Vibrations are greatly gone.

they suggested to change AC Comp as well. As with AC on, car has NVH levels and hits the ears.

However, 2 weeks later they are now refusing to change it saying all is fine.

Seems again Ford India stopped them. THEY ARE CHASING ME. WHAT A SCAM.

WHO IN INDUSTRY REFUSE TO OPEN A HOOD??