Does Sales Figures of a Car Matter in Your Buying Decision?

[Raja]

Re: Car Sales Figures – Do They Really Matter To You?

Hmm,

That show the clear herd buying the Figo and ambassador and any body say that Ritz and Linea or useless cars with their sales numbers, if so, the there is no word to explain the same.

The cars sell with just features some times and with their strength and brand some times where sales numbers never play any role but again it is herd mentality plays a big roll. My friend who owns Figo who suggest again a Figo to some body because he owns a Figo and thinks it is a VFM car, but in open he accepts that Swift and Ritz are better cars than Figo

No the point here is not that herd is buying some x y z car .

the point is better sales = great reputation and great reliability and great car and vice a versa is a questionable logic and open to debate . And people who blindly follow and belive it , we can say become a part of the herd mentality .

people say maruti is epitome of reliability , and has great reputation if so then why do they have market duds like sx4 , ? And a relatively new company in India Nissan with its product sunny out sells it which has far far lesser a.s.s.c and has not been old enough to judge its reputation ?

So does it mean that maruti's reputation is questionable ? Or the reputation must be only counted for dezire, alto and swift ? If yes then dosent it sound weird ?

Sx4 infact is one of the most reliable and problem free product from maruti and yet it sells less , and cars which have many problems are out selling it by a huge margin .

 

[Eyedocsri]

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The sales figure in our country are influenced by many factors other than the core competence of the car itself, ranging from how good the marketing for the car is to what car your neighbor got
Well hyundai can package a poor handler like the verna well and outsell competent cars like the linea.
well in short, if you have to buy you dont always have to buy the chart topper even if it doesn't suit your taste and that doesnt mean you go ballistic and buy a a complete dud because your heart felt so.
my two cents to add to the confusion

 

[jayadev]

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Who said sx4 is a market dud?

it sells nearly 2000 units pm.

 

[Raja]

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Who said sx4 is a market dud?

it sells nearly 2000 units pm.

Sx4 2012 monthly sales figures ( petrol+ diesel + cng)

Jan -1939

Feb-2033

March -1520

April -634

May -405

June -408

July -679

August -447

September -288

October -695

November -692

December -695

Other then in the month of feb in the year 2012 sx4 never ever crossed or did sales of 2000 units per month .

In year 2011 September the sales figures were down to 196 units .


Source - google .

 

[alexddas]

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Alto,SwiftD,Innova are consistent best sellers for years in india.
These other sellers you listed may vary from year to year.

Consistent sales figures-Do they really matter to you?
Yes it matters,That is my point.
Good cars sells consistently.
It is safe to buy a consistent best selling car from a reputed company.
If TATA sells Manza consistently the reputation will come to them.

When did i said to google at the best seller of the year segment by segment and buy it?
Commonsense must also come to role too.

Raja,You only found Sx4,there are other cars from suzuki in india sells less.

Suzuki in india sells more, people relay more on suzuki to buy cars.

You are trying to twist the point and logic i posted.

I find a Three star (***-TAI stars)over your shoulders,and i think it is the reputation given by TAI and so i expect you to think wise other than teasing me with your back to back posts which is evident on your posts. I even found someone laughing on a post.

Many TAI friends had mailed me personally to quit the debate.
I had made my point and ready to Quit your thread any time.

 

[Raja]

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Dear Alex ,

First the post you quoted by you of mine is never intended for you it was for jaydev who maybe thought sx4 sells 2000 units every month . The source was given - google because that's were I got this figures from belive me it had nothing to do with you .


This thread is not just about alto , swift , Innova these are not the only cars that sell in India .

The fortuner sells consistently and is a top seller in its segment , BMW is top seller in luxury cars , cars in India are divided in a,b,c,d segments and every segment has a best seller and lowest seller .

The point is do this best , medium , low seller matter to us ? Because I belive low sellers might not catch fancy of buyers but they can be great cars too .

I was free and had enough time to spend and so was responding your post exactly the way you were responding mine back to back .

Its not important that you and me must allways agree on every topic and can debate on every topic the forum is for that .

I have not teased you anywhere I have just asked you questions on certain things you posted , can you please show me where I did Tease you ?

and if you still feel I did well iam extremely sorry and ask for a due apology from you right on this thread .

The thread is about car sales figures matter to you ? You presented a logic I questioned it , you too can question me buddy the forum is for discussion and debate right ?

Nor you and me will gain anything from it its just a plain discussion , in case you question my logic I won't take it in a bad way .

But I assure you I won't question any of your beliefs , post , logics on this forum henceforth if that makes you more comfortable I will do so .

From now on you are just my friend and no more debates from my side with you .

Concerning this thread Your wish to quit but I would love your contribution as a thread starter .

And pm me if you have any personal reservations about me , i will pm you my phone number if yiu wish we can call and talk and if your sad I will ask a verbal apology too , I have no issue doing that the reputation stars have nothing to do with it .

and to believe others who mailed you personally or not is your wish because many mailed me too some were friends some i dont even know much on the forum , suggesting I must not respond any of your post not today but long back .

But I chosse to ignore those suggestion as I appreciate them but chose to exercise my own choice and will .

 

[alexddas]

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Ok,Fine.May be i misunderstood you,

The points and views from my side are posted,let the others do theirs as they did not get time as the thread was busy on our debate.

My doubt is if the thread is on car sales figures on companies or on cars segment by segment? and is it on yearly sales or consistent sales?

 

[Raja]

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Ok,Fine.May be i misunderstood you,

The points and views from my side are posted,let the others do theirs as they did not get time as the thread was busy on our debate.

My doubt is if the thread is on car sales figures on companies or on cars segment by segment? and is it on yearly sales or consistent sales?

It is in general , like the above sx4 example I posted . Sx4 dosent sell more but is very reliable and easy to maintain then Vento , sunny , verna . So the we must consider it or not ? Or we must only go for the verna since its highest selling ?
Hope you understood the crux , if not i can explain you again .

 

[alexddas]

Re: Car Sales Figures – Do They Really Matter To You?

It is in general , like the above sx4 example I posted . Sx4 dosent sell more but is very reliable and easy to maintain then Vento , sunny , verna . So the we must consider it or not ? Or we must only go for the verna since its highest selling ?
Hope you understood the crux , if not i can explain you again .

Ok,that means sales figures on cars segment by segment.

Monthly/yearly sales figures or consistent sales figures for years?

 

[Raja]

Re: Car Sales Figures – Do They Really Matter To You?

Ok,that means sales figures on cars segment by segment.

Monthly/yearly sales figures or consistent sales figures?

Count all the parameters you mentioned .

In MUV Innova is best seller in its segment , monthly and yearly also right ?

Now what if Honda , maruti brings a killer MUV in diesel and they out sell the Innova . Does the Innova suddenly becomes a inferior product because Honda and Suzuki MUV is selling more monthly and yearly ?

Iam giving you this as a example to understand the concept .

 

[alexddas]

Re: Car Sales Figures – Do They Really Matter To You?

Count all the parameters you mentioned .

In MUV Innova is best seller in its segment , monthly and yearly also right ?

Now what if Honda , maruti brings a killer MUV in diesel and they out sell the Innova . Does the Innova suddenly becomes a inferior product because Honda and Suzuki MUV is selling more monthly and yearly ?

Iam giving you this as a example to understand the concept .

Brother that is where 'consistent' comes in play.
The point is i will go for or recommend a friend a product that sells consistently,
i will not go for a new product which sells good in one month or good in one year and bad in the coming year.
The product must sell consistently then only it can be in the list of the best sellers.
If verna sells consistently then i will surely recommend my friend to buy verna other than any car in the segment.
One cannot asses a car's quality with a year's sales figures.
Consistent car sales figures is that matters.

 

[Raja]

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Brother that is where 'consistent' comes in play.
The point is i will go for or recommend a friend a product that sells consistently,
i will not go for a new product which sells good in one month or good in one year and bad in the coming year.
The product must sell consistently then only it can be in the list of the best sellers.
If verna sells consistently then i will surely recommend my friend to buy verna other than any car in the segment.
One cannot asses a car's quality with a year's sales figures.

But the verna has more problems then a sx4 . See the point here is consistent sales = great can can be only half the story .

Because verna is consistent in its sales figures but also in problems , sx4 dosent sell well but is also consistent in being reliable , cheap to maintain .and relatively problem free compared to verna .

And my debate is that most people buying a car means its better car allways is a debatable logic so I provided the link

Argumentum ad populum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Edit - Alex its not to force you to think otherway then what you think now its just a request to see the other side of the coin which might not be black and white as we think .

 

[Gurrala74]

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As I believe if the factors like reliability,VFM play a important role while selection of a vehicle, then see this case

1. Swift - reliable,VFM - have good sales numbers
2. Ritz - reliable,VFM - no good sales numbers

So here one has to follow the sales numbers to select one out of both or should look at other important things like performance, looks, pricing, comfort etc., ??

 

[alexddas]

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But the verna has more problems then a sx4 . See the point here is consistent sales = great can can be only half the story .

And my debate is that most people buying a car means its better car allways is a debatable logic so I provided the link

Argumentum ad populum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If verna have problems then it won't sell consistently.
It will fail with one having lesser problems in the coming year,years.
Go for the consistent best sellers.

 

[Raja]

Re: Car Sales Figures – Do They Really Matter To You?

If verna have problems then it won't sell consistently.
It will fail with one having lesser problems in the coming year,years.
Go for the consistent best sellers.

Our forum has a dedicated thread on problems in Hyundai verna . Suspension issues , steering rattling , expensive spares are reported .