No body noticed that.
The car is selling consistently from its launch.
And it is because swiftD is a good car.
The car is selling consistently from its launch.
And it is because swiftD is a good car.
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Does Sales Figures of a Car Matter in Your Buying Decision?
- Thread Starter Raja
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Swift P was launched in 2006 when I was buying my new M800 MPI, I remember checking that car in the showroom.
Indica first launch had vibration and other problems, but when V2 was launched people bought it like mad as people were really bored with Maruti and they wanted some thing fresh with more space.
V2 was not at all a bad and was excellent with its mileage and driving pleasure, only TASS has spoiled the car(with my own experience of V2 in 2006)
Indica first launch had vibration and other problems, but when V2 was launched people bought it like mad as people were really bored with Maruti and they wanted some thing fresh with more space.
V2 was not at all a bad and was excellent with its mileage and driving pleasure, only TASS has spoiled the car(with my own experience of V2 in 2006)
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ford sold all cars they had to offer in 2010 =83,887
And in same 2010 tata sold only their indigo = - 85,201.
So by your logic which you have presented on this thread indigo is a best car then ford fiesta since it sells more consistently ?
And in same 2010 tata sold only their indigo = - 85,201.
So by your logic which you have presented on this thread indigo is a best car then ford fiesta since it sells more consistently ?
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Agree,but failed with the launch of SwiftD.
SwiftD is selling consistently from its launch that is the point,that sales figures are to be considered.
who told you search for the sales year by year.
Let Indigo sell Consistently as SwiftD do then we will think of it.
SwiftD is selling consistently from its launch that is the point,that sales figures are to be considered.
who told you search for the sales year by year.
Let Indigo sell Consistently as SwiftD do then we will think of it.
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If I am correct V2 had TATA engine and SwiftD just barrowed it from Fiat which was a next gen engine.
So V2 sold excellent till the next gen engines from Fiat and ofcourse they have again came out with Vista TDI then got a Fiat engine which sells in decent numbers now.
So V2 sold excellent till the next gen engines from Fiat and ofcourse they have again came out with Vista TDI then got a Fiat engine which sells in decent numbers now.
Agree,Indica with a Fiat engine is good and it will sell good.
Zen and Esteem with Peugeot(i guess) Diesel engine did not sell that good.
Because of this engine and experience on ZenD and EsteemD people hesitated a bit to buy SwiftD at its launch.
Zen and Esteem with Peugeot(i guess) Diesel engine did not sell that good.
Because of this engine and experience on ZenD and EsteemD people hesitated a bit to buy SwiftD at its launch.
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brother can you kindly tell me how you reach on consistent sales figure? There is life more then swift D . Iam asking you between indigo and fiesta Since indigo sells more then fiesta does it mean as per your logic its better car ? . Or as per you one must only buy swift D ,innova and alto only till they are alive and living in India ?
Regarding peugot engines in Zen and esteem ,people dint buy because petrol was cheaper and majority were buying it .only tourist people were buying diesel cars.swift diesel sales increased only after petrol started becoming expensive.
And peugot makes very good diesel engines even the jaguar has a peugot engine.
Regarding peugot engines in Zen and esteem ,people dint buy because petrol was cheaper and majority were buying it .only tourist people were buying diesel cars.swift diesel sales increased only after petrol started becoming expensive.
And peugot makes very good diesel engines even the jaguar has a peugot engine.
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How can we consider a year of good sales to buy a car?
Alto,SwiftD and innova are the consistent best sellers,such consistency are to be considered before buying a car.
More cars are trying to be in the list.
Peugeot engine with Suzuki Gear box affected its performance, Peugeot 301 delivered good power and even a mileage of 30Kms,my friend still owns one.
SwiftD's performance changed the market,even if Petrol/diesel price levels it will have a decent sales.
Alto,SwiftD and innova are the consistent best sellers,such consistency are to be considered before buying a car.
More cars are trying to be in the list.
Peugeot engine with Suzuki Gear box affected its performance, Peugeot 301 delivered good power and even a mileage of 30Kms,my friend still owns one.
SwiftD's performance changed the market,even if Petrol/diesel price levels it will have a decent sales.
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Indica and indigo dear sold consistently for many years .
Try and understand one point here before we run in circles . BMW sells more then mercedes . Is BMW good ? Of course yes , does that make mercedes bad ?
And please understand in India there are many other cars then alto , Innova and swift d . They sell more and that dosent mean other cars are bad . If that was a case why you are using a Chevy beat and punto yourself ?
Try and understand one point here before we run in circles . BMW sells more then mercedes . Is BMW good ? Of course yes , does that make mercedes bad ?
And please understand in India there are many other cars then alto , Innova and swift d . They sell more and that dosent mean other cars are bad . If that was a case why you are using a Chevy beat and punto yourself ?
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Indica sold consistently till SwiftD launch,
Let another car come to take over SwiftD.
As for now SwiftD is better.
There are many cars i experimented.
But still recommend SwiftD for some one who spend their hard earned money to buy a car.
Better cars sells good.
Let another car come to take over SwiftD.
As for now SwiftD is better.
There are many cars i experimented.
But still recommend SwiftD for some one who spend their hard earned money to buy a car.
Better cars sells good.
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And if some car overtakes the swift in sales does that mean swift d is no longer a great car for you ?
Since you belive better car sell more does that mean BMW cars are allways better then Audi , Volvo , jaguar and mercedes cars since they sell more ?
What is hard earned money ? Every one works and earns money saves money and buys a car . I don't understand the connection between hard earned money and swift d . Do you think people who buy Nissan micRa , polo , figo , ritiz don't buy it with their hard earned money ?
Let diesel and petrol become same price first and I have no doubt you will only recommend swift diesel even if someone's monthly running is just 300 Kms as you have already mentioned before .
Since you belive better car sell more does that mean BMW cars are allways better then Audi , Volvo , jaguar and mercedes cars since they sell more ?
What is hard earned money ? Every one works and earns money saves money and buys a car . I don't understand the connection between hard earned money and swift d . Do you think people who buy Nissan micRa , polo , figo , ritiz don't buy it with their hard earned money ?
Let diesel and petrol become same price first and I have no doubt you will only recommend swift diesel even if someone's monthly running is just 300 Kms as you have already mentioned before .
But initial discount is a sure shot cash available in your hands can be invested in national saving certificate s to avail IT and intrest benefits or in RD schemes.
And if it is a loan amount saved on day 1 of the ownership then lot of amount is saved on the intrest to be paid as compared to ' depreciation based resale value of a hot seller'.
Finally resale value of a hot seller also depends on accident damage , wear and tear which is uncertain as compared to sure shot initial discounts.
But if all people are mad behind swift D then who among the following categories will buy puntos, sails , vistas (even if they are better) ?
1) believers of sales chart based decisions
2) believers of reserch based decisions.
ANS - The 'believers of reserch based decisions ' would find out a car which is better than swift and buy it. If they report that the concerned new car is better then many people (herd)would buy it hence it would get reflected in sales chart then lazy (those who don't spare time for reserch) people would further add to the sales chart numbers.
So it is safe to conclude that' reserch based decision makers' are fathers of sales charts and destroyers of the sales charts too.
Some times herd neglects the goodies of a car such as driving pleasure , performance, comfort etc in want of meagre benefits of resale value etc. and a better car remains a moderate seller instead of becoming a top seller.
Those who bought the swift D at the time of its launchdidn't looked at sales chart , they carried out reserch , they found out that non maruti fiat engine is gonna better than v2, kudos to them for their reserch based decision.![[clap]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Clap.gif "Clap [clap]")
And if it is a loan amount saved on day 1 of the ownership then lot of amount is saved on the intrest to be paid as compared to ' depreciation based resale value of a hot seller'.
Finally resale value of a hot seller also depends on accident damage , wear and tear which is uncertain as compared to sure shot initial discounts.
But if all people are mad behind swift D then who among the following categories will buy puntos, sails , vistas (even if they are better) ?
1) believers of sales chart based decisions
2) believers of reserch based decisions.
ANS - The 'believers of reserch based decisions ' would find out a car which is better than swift and buy it. If they report that the concerned new car is better then many people (herd)would buy it hence it would get reflected in sales chart then lazy (those who don't spare time for reserch) people would further add to the sales chart numbers.
So it is safe to conclude that' reserch based decision makers' are fathers of sales charts and destroyers of the sales charts too.
Some times herd neglects the goodies of a car such as driving pleasure , performance, comfort etc in want of meagre benefits of resale value etc. and a better car remains a moderate seller instead of becoming a top seller.
Those who bought the swift D at the time of its launchdidn't looked at sales chart , they carried out reserch , they found out that non maruti fiat engine is gonna better than v2, kudos to them for their reserch based decision.
@raja,Tornado
If any car over take SwiftD like SwiftD over taked Indica and sell consistently then i will recommend that car because it will be a better one than swiftD.
common people do not have time and less knowledge over cars,if they buy a proven consistent best seller, then how come they be lazy?
Some one had done research and found out that SwiftD is better than Indica and after a long consistent selling the SwiftD became the best seller.
And now when it is the best seller why should poor lazy herd (as you say) do another research over SwiftD to buy it?
If you people had found out something better than SwiftD then you buy it and recommend it
and if gets proven that the new one you found out is better than SwiftD and it sells consistently and the lazy herd (as you say) will follow you.
People were fed up with indica at that time and when SwiftD launched with this performance with just a test drive and reliability on Fiat's engine people started buying it.
But now the engine is same on the competitors the reliability of maruti suzuki in india and consistent selling and consistent performance of swiftD is in role now.
No body in the lazy hered (as you say) is going to buy another car in the market because no other cars shows a huge difference in performance other than the price which they claim for the safety.
The lazy herd(as you say) needs less priced performing car with good FE and good resale,because that is where they spend their hard earned money.
If fords ecoboost engine comes in a 800cc(less price) in a hatch and if it makes a huge difference in pricing, performance and FE then there is a chance to get SwiftD
otherwise i don't thing it is possible with these cars in the market you do research and research on this market you will find punto or sail but that do not make a huge difference to SwiftD.
These are fact to be acknowledged,the lazy herd are smart they do the research with commonsense which they use to survive in india.
If any car over take SwiftD like SwiftD over taked Indica and sell consistently then i will recommend that car because it will be a better one than swiftD.
common people do not have time and less knowledge over cars,if they buy a proven consistent best seller, then how come they be lazy?
Some one had done research and found out that SwiftD is better than Indica and after a long consistent selling the SwiftD became the best seller.
And now when it is the best seller why should poor lazy herd (as you say) do another research over SwiftD to buy it?
If you people had found out something better than SwiftD then you buy it and recommend it
and if gets proven that the new one you found out is better than SwiftD and it sells consistently and the lazy herd (as you say) will follow you.
People were fed up with indica at that time and when SwiftD launched with this performance with just a test drive and reliability on Fiat's engine people started buying it.
But now the engine is same on the competitors the reliability of maruti suzuki in india and consistent selling and consistent performance of swiftD is in role now.
No body in the lazy hered (as you say) is going to buy another car in the market because no other cars shows a huge difference in performance other than the price which they claim for the safety.
The lazy herd(as you say) needs less priced performing car with good FE and good resale,because that is where they spend their hard earned money.
If fords ecoboost engine comes in a 800cc(less price) in a hatch and if it makes a huge difference in pricing, performance and FE then there is a chance to get SwiftD
otherwise i don't thing it is possible with these cars in the market you do research and research on this market you will find punto or sail but that do not make a huge difference to SwiftD.
These are fact to be acknowledged,the lazy herd are smart they do the research with commonsense which they use to survive in india.
And then the owner requires a bigger boot and then spoil the looks by putting up a carrier. As stated earlier as well, SwiftD is best car today, but that does not makes other cars bad.
When SwiftD was launched who knew about FIAT's so called reliable engine? AT that time and today as well, FIAT is not able to get the brand value improvement. And People with just one drive came to know that, the company that ditched every one here decade ago have suddenly came up with the reliable engine?
Lets be frank here, that it is the FIAT's engine that made SwiftD famous. Else why did ZenD and EsteemD din't work well for Maruti? People bought it because it was Maruti and they hit jackpot as FIAT engine proved to be one of the most reliable one. And that's when people started learning more about Multijet.
If you feel I am wrong here, you can correct me and I will happily accept that I was wrong.![[;)]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Wink.gif "Wink [;)]")
When SwiftD was launched who knew about FIAT's so called reliable engine? AT that time and today as well, FIAT is not able to get the brand value improvement. And People with just one drive came to know that, the company that ditched every one here decade ago have suddenly came up with the reliable engine?
Lets be frank here, that it is the FIAT's engine that made SwiftD famous. Else why did ZenD and EsteemD din't work well for Maruti? People bought it because it was Maruti and they hit jackpot as FIAT engine proved to be one of the most reliable one. And that's when people started learning more about Multijet.
If you feel I am wrong here, you can correct me and I will happily accept that I was wrong.
And then the owner requires a bigger boot and then spoil the looks by putting up a carrier. As stated earlier as well, SwiftD is best car today, but that does not makes other cars bad.
When SwiftD was launched who knew about FIAT's so called reliable engine? AT that time and today as well, FIAT is not able to get the brand value improvement. And People with just one drive came to know that, the company that ditched every one here decade ago have suddenly came up with the reliable engine?
Lets be frank here, that it is the FIAT's engine that made SwiftD famous. Else why did ZenD and EsteemD din't work well for Maruti? People bought it because it was Maruti and they hit jackpot as FIAT engine proved to be one of the most reliable one. And that's when people started learning more about Multijet.
If you feel I am wrong here, you can correct me and I will happily accept that I was wrong.
When SwiftD was launched who knew about FIAT's so called reliable engine? AT that time and today as well, FIAT is not able to get the brand value improvement. And People with just one drive came to know that, the company that ditched every one here decade ago have suddenly came up with the reliable engine?
Lets be frank here, that it is the FIAT's engine that made SwiftD famous. Else why did ZenD and EsteemD din't work well for Maruti? People bought it because it was Maruti and they hit jackpot as FIAT engine proved to be one of the most reliable one. And that's when people started learning more about Multijet.
If you feel I am wrong here, you can correct me and I will happily accept that I was wrong.
But people were aware of the Uno Diesel engine of its performance and life.
Less noisy,powerful,smooth as petrol that was the feel i got with the test drive on SwiftD on its launch.
Every one would have got that feel for sure.
We were used of indicas,amby and Uno,so with the advanced mutijet tech from fiat with maruti suzuki reliability SwiftD clicked.
If some new tech comes with huge difference and with great feel with good FE then it will replace SwiftD for sure.
Other cars in the market are good for sure otherwise they can't put a fight to SwiftD but not that much to replace swiftD.