Car & Manufacturer Wise Monthly Sales

[tornado78]

Woww... Exciting month this has been for auto.

Fruitful month for maruti with 40% of market share. The swift is back with a bang.
Alto is still at the same number.1 position in its segment. A-star has taken the beating this time with just 700 odd units. Dezire is doing the magic for the past 2 months with 16K units. Kizashi also have come up with more than 2 fold of its sales this month with 48 units compared to 14 unit last month.


Asusual month for ford. Figo is doing decent numbers. Endy couldn't stand couple of months and the count came down to just 26. Fiesta classic is doing decent with 130 units. Pricey new ford fiesta is still in a dull mode and there is no much catch in here.

Ha ha h a
Endy is at 26 only, A star just 700 and kizashi at 48, crv at 1 and people have the audacity to call Aria a Flop even after clossing to 400 mark month after month. They say Altis is doing great when she has numbers just 900. But Aria is a FLop because it is from TATA.

Look at cruze, Captiva, Fluence, jetta, laura, Altis, Yeti, Endy, Kizashi, Vitara, CRV all in the same price bracekt of 10L to 20L and Aria is among the top three. (XUV, Altis and ARIA).
Well People still call it a FLOP. whereas it sells around 10 times more than Cruze and Kizashi.

Nobody talks about a potent car which is actually a flop and that is Mahindra VERITO.

 

[FJ CRUZER]

Ha ha h a
Endy is at 26 only, A star just 700 and kizashi at 48, crv at 1 and people have the audacity to call Aria a Flop even after clossing to 400 mark month after month. They say Altis is doing great when she has numbers just 900. But Aria is a FLop because it is from TATA.

Look at cruze, Captiva, Fluence, jetta, laura, Altis, Yeti, Endy, Kizashi, Vitara, CRV all in the same price bracekt of 10L to 20L and Aria is among the top three. (XUV, Altis and ARIA).
Well People still call it a FLOP. whereas it sells around 10 times more than Cruze and Kizashi.

Nobody talks about a potent car which is actually a flop and that is Mahindra VERITO.

+10.

I am with you not only for the unbiased views you expressed but also for being bold enough to point out the (excuse me for using these words) weird mentality few people have. It's a pity we have to live with day in and day out.

 

[Vishwas]

Ha ha h a
Endy is at 26 only, A star just 700 and kizashi at 48, crv at 1 and people have the audacity to call Aria a Flop even after clossing to 400 mark month after month. They say Altis is doing great when she has numbers just 900. But Aria is a FLop because it is from TATA.

Look at cruze, Captiva, Fluence, jetta, laura, Altis, Yeti, Endy, Kizashi, Vitara, CRV all in the same price bracekt of 10L to 20L and Aria is among the top three. (XUV, Altis and ARIA).
Well People still call it a FLOP. whereas it sells around 10 times more than Cruze and Kizashi.

Aria has sales more than the cars you had mentioned, but compare it with the segment that it is competing with, is it touching XUV sales mark? Okay at least Fortuner? Not a joke: Innova?

It is a dud mainly for the price and the segment it is in.

Nobody talks about a potent car which is actually a flop and that is Mahindra VERITO.

Verito has made 1700(apprx.) units which isn't a bad figure.

 

[jayadev]

Aria has sales more than the cars you had mentioned, but compare it with the segment that it is competing with, is it touching XUV sales mark? Okay at least Fortuner? Not a joke: Innova?

It is a dud mainly for the price and the segment it is in.

+1
Pity that some members fail to reckon this basic common man's logic or pretend not to.

Aria is a Flop no doubt .

 

[raj_5004]

Yes you are somewhat right,
If XUV has a badge of Maruti than???
or a badge of Toyota than???

It will sell even more.

I guess if it adorns a Toyota badge and was available in sufficient units it has the capability to beat the mark of 10k per month. but not with mahindra badge. Isnt it?

True.

Comparo of Xylo v/s Innova
Can we not call XYLO a flop product as it sold only 2.5K units as compare to Innova 6.5K (restricted due to production capabilities)

Can we say Xylo and Innova are in the same segments? Look at the price difference. Isnt Xylo a competition to Tavera & Grande?

Comparo of Safari and Scorpio

Safari 100% personal usage
Scorpio (15% Taxi+30% Semi taxi & Personal+remaining personal usage)

I have heard this umpteen times across the forum & does not agree to this baseless logic. I dont understand from where you get the percentages!

Anyways, how does it matter whether it is sold to the taxi market or not? By that logic, 37.347% of Innovas are in the taxi market... dont ask me how I got the percentage!

But in this hoopla we forget to catch the FLOPPEST PRODUCT OF MAHINDRA named as VERITO

Verito - 1763 units

Now Lets say VERITO V/s INDIGO or MANZA
Plz give me the figures of VERITO as iam unable to get those and compare it to its competitior. Now thats what i call a flop product. Even a modest price, space, milage and out of this world M&M service is unable to get the people to buy this. Now any replies on this???

Simple reply - Verito is a outdated product & hence does not hold a candle to the manza & dzire.

Next is Indica and Vista, sooper numbers again this month.

I would say Indica, not Vista.

This again proves that once a product is launched with a high price tag it becomes super difficult for the company to sell it even after discounts because people just tend to ignore it completely case in study versa, baleno, aria , and the new ford feista .

...........

product comes in the market by some reputated car maker )because it has already made a strong association in people's mind that it is a vfm product .
Tata has lost the battle with aria though being a very very good product .

+100.

The best part is, people will buy Xuv just for fun too and sell it off within couple of months without having much damage to pockets. within short period Xuv attracts very decent resale value adding to impeccable success .

Second hand XUVs are actually selling at the premium. People are selling it for more than the on road price.

Endy is at 26 only, A star just 700 and kizashi at 48, crv at 1 and people have the audacity to call Aria a Flop even after clossing to 400 mark month after month. They say Altis is doing great when she has numbers just 900. But Aria is a FLop because it is from TATA.

Dude, atleast compare with the competition (same segment). Aria's competition is the XUV and to an extent, the Innova.

Tomorrow, you will compare the Aria with a Jaguar XJ & say the Aria is rocking all sales charts... does it work that way?

Look at cruze, Captiva, Fluence, jetta, laura, Altis, Yeti, Endy, Kizashi, Vitara, CRV all in the same price bracekt of 10L to 20L and Aria is among the top three. (XUV, Altis and ARIA).

Since when did CRV start selling for 20 Lacs?

You mean to say, the competitors of Aria are the above cars? Great.

Well People still call it a FLOP. whereas it sells around 10 times more than Cruze and Kizashi.

I will. My reasoning is different.

Nobody talks about a potent car which is actually a flop and that is Mahindra VERITO.

Yes. Verito is a FLOP. An outdated car like Verito deserves to be a FLOP.

+1
Pity that some members fail to reckon this basic common man's logic or pretend not to.

Aria is a Flop no doubt .

+100.

 

[jayadev]

Originally Posted by tornado78
Yes you are somewhat right,
If XUV has a badge of Maruti than???
or a badge of Toyota than???

It will sell even more.

I differ,an Suv with maruti Badge...err no way ..I mean , Grand Vitara ; does it exist in India???

Mahindra has carved a very good image in SUV/Uv segment which even Toyota cannot compete ,And that is "tough cars" ; even youngest kid or most Idiotic person in India will agree to it. Xuv has benefited the advantage of such an Image.

Rarely I have seen anybody talking about interior fit n finish and quality issue of Mahindra cars and that is just because no matter what it will keep serving unlike other Phoren or tata cars.

 

[tornado78]

I differ,an Suv with maruti Badge...err no way ..I mean , Grand Vitara ; does it exist in India???

Mahindra has carved a very good image in SUV/Uv segment which even Toyota cannot compete ,And that is "tough cars" ; even youngest kid or most Idiotic person in India will agree to it. Xuv has benefited the advantage of such an Image.

Rarely I have seen anybody talking about interior fit n finish and quality issue of Mahindra cars and that is just because no matter what it will keep serving unlike other Phoren or tata cars.

If XUV or alike vehicle adorns the badge of Maruti and priced same it would have done the same numbers, i guess no. But it is a product of Toyota and with same pricing, it would have done many more units.


I have used several cars which have dismal sales to show that nobody has the guts to call them flop, instead they are only focussed on one car i.e. the ARIA. So thats why i have used that example.
Using the price bracket of 10 to 20L to show how much money people can spend on cars/uv/suv and their subsiquent sales figure.

CRV 2Lts engine is available in around 20L whereas 2.4Lts is at around 23L or so.

When one can say Bolero (which has 4 to 5 variants) and consider them one than why cant only 2 variants of Indica be clubbed together. Same goes for Indigo

Anyone knows the units of New Ford Fiesta, which is again doing dismal fugures though its a very good and potent car. Its the true drivers car.

I know many scorpio owners who complain about the fit and finish of interiors and unsettle ride quality. Lots of comments on this forum and also on other forum. Personal driving experience also. As these two things were the main reasons for me to not buying the Bolero and Scorpio and also the existing Safari. These things were at par with most of the Phoren cars in Aria and hence i own one.

If Aria is so Bad Product than by this time people should have stopped buying it, but this is not the case.

 

[raj_5004]

I have used several cars which have dismal sales to show that nobody has the guts to call them flop, instead they are only focussed on one car i.e. the ARIA. So thats why i have used that example.
Using the price bracket of 10 to 20L to show how much money people can spend on cars/uv/suv and their subsiquent sales figure.

So? Just because other cars are FLOP, does that make Aria a hit?

Its simple. Innova is doing 6k units, XUV is doing 3.5k units... Aria is doing 0.35 units. So its a FLOP.

We should be mindful enough to compare it with its direct competition. A CRV buyer would not even consider an Aria.

CRV 2Lts engine is available in around 20L whereas 2.4Lts is at around 23L or so.

Are you talking about India? Brand new or second hand? You seriously should called up a dealer and ask for on road prices.

CRV 2.0 ltr costs 28 Lacs on road & 2.4 costs 30 Lacs on road.

When one can say Bolero (which has 4 to 5 variants) and consider them one than why cant only 2 variants of Indica be clubbed together. Same goes for Indigo

DUDE! Indica & Vista are not two variants... they are two different cars!

Anyone knows the units of New Ford Fiesta, which is again doing dismal fugures though its a very good and potent car. Its the true drivers car.

Phew! I dont get one thing. What are you trying to prove by showcasing figures of different slow selling models of various segments?

First CRV, endy, etc. Now Fiesta. Agreed. These cars do not sell. So? Does that make the Aria a hit? No. Period.

I know many scorpio owners who complain about the fit and finish of interiors and unsettle ride quality. Lots of comments on this forum and also on other forum. Personal driving experience also. As these two things were the main reasons for me to not buying the Bolero and Scorpio and also the existing Safari.

The only people complaining about fit & finish & quality is those who have owned Toyotas & Hondas.

These things were at par with most of the Phoren cars in Aria and hence i own one.

LOLZ! Give more importance to the quality of mechanicals rather than the fit & finish of the dashboard.

If Aria is so Bad Product than by this time people should have stopped buying it, but this is not the case.

350 cars a month... Consistently for months, it has not crossed 500 units. It is almost like people have stopped buying it.

P.S.: One request - please dont list out all the flop cars. That is not going to help Aria's case.

 

[jayadev]

If Aria is so Bad Product than by this time people should have stopped buying it, but this is not the case.

Product may not be bad but manufacturers overall approach is.

 

[tornado78]

I have asked figures of New Ford Fiesta as it is not mentioned anywhere, so just to know the figures of a great car.

Remember Bullet: It was and and is doing a dismal figures as compared to other fast selling motorcycles. But it is not a flop at all. It has all the mechanicals problems. But still it manages to sold some units. People are like Bullet is a Bullet. Same is for Safari as people are like Safari is Safari. Its the cult following. Lets see the same will happen for Aria or not?

Mechanicals of Aria are super strong, read my ownership thread. And TATA ASS working proactively to recitify the niggles or problems in every product.

i have mentioned that front shocker were replaced with new design one. New PTL bolt.
These two things were replaced in vehicles manufactured in first two batches. The change is due to inclusion of improved design components not the failure. But this is proactive step not reactive like in many cases of TATA itself and also from many other manufacturer.

The vehicle is running fine and doing great on its day to day duty with a daily running of around 90 kms in delhi to gurgaon traffic. It is giving a helathy mileage of 13.5+ with AC on all the time and B2B traffic. The best KMPL acheived is 17.6kmpl and the worst is 9.9KMPL.
Till today iam completely satisfied with the quality of Mechanicals, and fit and finish of interiors of THE ARIA.

History: I used to own fist generation Indigo LS and i dorve the vehicle for more than 1.25L kms and she has never left me staranded on any road. I have taken it to all those places on which only UV/SUV were playing (as far as i can take her). No electrical issue, no mechanical issue faced till Feb 2012. I have first hand experience of TATA ASS from variety of Service centres.

Iam not denying this that whatsoever said by many fellow TAI members are myth about TML but its not even 100% true. Like moi there are million plus more people who are completely satisfied with their TATA VEHICLES.

 

[TSIVipul]

Ha ha h a
Endy is at 26 only, A star just 700 and kizashi at 48, crv at 1 and people have the audacity to call Aria a Flop even after clossing to 400 mark month after month. They say Altis is doing great when she has numbers just 900. But Aria is a FLop because it is from TATA.

Look at cruze, Captiva, Fluence, jetta, laura, Altis, Yeti, Endy, Kizashi, Vitara, CRV all in the same price bracekt of 10L to 20L and Aria is among the top three. (XUV, Altis and ARIA).
Well People still call it a FLOP. whereas it sells around 10 times more than Cruze and Kizashi.

Nobody talks about a potent car which is actually a flop and that is Mahindra VERITO.

Buddy you are right Verito is a flop but Aria also falls somewhat in the same category?Its not because its doing 400 units per month,but it is because XUV and Innova is doing far far higher numbers.Simple it is,if the car is being outsold by its 'OWN' competition then its a flop.And Aria is on the verge of it.Definitely its not a flop but is on its verge.

If XUV or alike vehicle adorns the badge of Maruti and priced same it would have done the same numbers, i guess no. But it is a product of Toyota and with same pricing, it would have done many more units.


I have used several cars which have dismal sales to show that nobody has the guts to call them flop, instead they are only focussed on one car i.e. the ARIA. So thats why i have used that example.
Using the price bracket of 10 to 20L to show how much money people can spend on cars/uv/suv and their subsiquent sales figure.

CRV 2Lts engine is available in around 20L whereas 2.4Lts is at around 23L or so.

When one can say Bolero (which has 4 to 5 variants) and consider them one than why cant only 2 variants of Indica be clubbed together. Same goes for Indigo

Anyone knows the units of New Ford Fiesta, which is again doing dismal fugures though its a very good and potent car. Its the true drivers car.

I know many scorpio owners who complain about the fit and finish of interiors and unsettle ride quality. Lots of comments on this forum and also on other forum. Personal driving experience also. As these two things were the main reasons for me to not buying the Bolero and Scorpio and also the existing Safari. These things were at par with most of the Phoren cars in Aria and hence i own one.

If Aria is so Bad Product than by this time people should have stopped buying it, but this is not the case.

No doubt Aria is a fantastic product only issue is with pricing.
If you compare it with Toyota Innova then its a fact that even XUV thing is also unable to snatch even 1% on Innova;s sales.Why?Because its an Innova and buying an Innova means buying peace of mind.Anyone may agree or not but ask any Innova owner(I kept one for 1 lac kms)and he/she will tell you.
If Aria could have matched the overall quality and reliability levels of Innova then definitely the price could have been slightly justified.XUV is selling not because its far better than Aria,but because its priced where it needed to be.

Product may not be bad but manufacturers overall approach is.

+1000..

 

[jayadev]

No doubt Aria is a fantastic product only issue is with pricing.

What do you mean by pricing here? look at the sales figure even after reducing the price..It is a goner.

XUV is selling not because its far better than Aria,but because its priced where it needed to be.

They did deliver in right time with right conditions and we had no options but to accept it.

 

[TSIVipul]

What do you mean by pricing here? look at the sales figure even after reducing the price..It is a goner.

Buddy have you ever heard a proverb "A bad name is worse than bad deeds".Simple it is,once your name is dented then it takes too long to recover a dent on your image.

They did deliver in right time with right conditions and we had no options but to accept it.

^^Please elaborate,i am unable to understand what you meant.

 

[vaibhav]

`Maruti dezire -16000 units

like this it will be as common as maruti 800 in a few years

 

[Superbad]

`Maruti dezire -16000 units

like this it will be as common as maruti 800 in a few years

it is common atleast in mumbai.
Every second car in mumbai atleast is a VDI dzire