Alloys For Verna Fluidic - Need Suggestion For Designs


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himalayan3009 said:
Yes bad roads are the main problem here and if i have to go to my native place which is approx 4 hour run from Shimla i have to face such roads that even SUV owners thinks twice before going that way. More than 70 percent of the pictures i have posted in TAI are clicked on very bad roads. I dont want to take any chance with my suspensions but still i will look out for 16 inches and if i will find a unique one i will wait for some more time.
Sorry to post these pics again but i want to give you all idea about where we drive and how it looks. [;)]
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Dude stock Verna O.E alloys are 16" so we can safely assume that the suspension are tuned for 16" alloys. Due to price difference and make the Verna more desirable Hyundai has shod lower varinats with 15". Suspension and tuning will be identical to the SX variant which comes with 16". So i am sure using 16" alloys won't do any harm to your suspension whatever conditions they road may be. Just be carefully while driving in bad road and drive slowly over potholes to protect your alloys from bends and scratches (Bends and scratches doesn't depend on alloy diameter. Be it 15" or 16" bends can occur if you drive fast over potholes.) . In my opinion upsizing to even 17" won't cause any damage to your suspension as stock alloys are 16". Always those who go for alloy upgrade go for 1" upgrade than their current tires. I have seen a Fludic Verna shod with 17" Momo alloys which had clocked 65k kms and suspension still going strong without issues. The owner said ride quality has decreased slightly but he had noticed huge increase in road grip, high speed driving confidence and braking.

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@ SankarNarayan:Try to understand my post.I have not said that the 16" alloys are a no go.With the kind of roads himalayan3009 deals with 15" makes more sense because with the right sidewall height you can get tires that will give you ample amount of ground clearance.

You do understand that to keep the rolling radius the same with the 16" alloys he will have to reduce the sidewall height and that will lower his GC.Ask the person with the 17" alloys to traverse the roads as himalayan3009.See the reaction.

@himalayan3009:With that kind of road you need rally tires, the ones they use on loose and soft mud.
BTW your car is just not suited for the kind of roads you drive in, go for a 4x4.

PS:I hope you wash you car thoroughly and have already done the underbody treatment.Your car will rust real bad if not.
 
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jarpickle said:
@ SankarNarayan:Try to understand my post.I have not said that the 16" alloys are a no go.With the kind of roads himalayan3009 deals with 15" makes more sense because with the right sidewall height you can get tires that will give you ample amount of ground clearance.

You do understand that to keep the rolling radius the same with the 16" alloys he will have to reduce the sidewall height and that will lower his GC.Ask the person with the 17" alloys to traverse the roads as himalayan3009.See the reaction.

@himalayan3009:With that kind of road you need rally tires, the ones they use on loose and soft mud.
BTW your car is just not suited for the kind of roads you drive in, go for a 4x4.

PS:I hope you wash you car thoroughly and have already done the underbody treatment.Your car will rust real bad if not.
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Valid point jarpickle. 15" tires in Verna are 185/65 R15 and 16" tires pecs in Verna are 195/55 R16. It's upto Himalayan to decide on which tires to go for. Please correct me if i am wrong - Will a bit lower profile tires suffer a lot in muddy conditions that Himalayan might endure? Won't 195/55 R16 offer more grip than 185/65 R15 in muddy conditions? For 4X4 i am sure higher profile tires are much better but what about muddy conditions? I have absolutely no knowledge in 4X4 conditions[:)]

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It would be bad in the conditions that himalayan3009 is looking to use them in.It would offer more grip and better steering response albeit not a lot on normal tarmac and concrete roads.On muddy surfaces it will just sink in.

Again, we are not talking about 4x4 tires, but tires for the Verna that would offer a bit more GC.

As far as my suggestion to himalayan3009 goes, it was about using a 4x4 type vehicle and not his Verna in the conditions he drives in, because that would be more suited for the application.
 
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jarpickle said:
It would be bad in the conditions that himalayan3009 is looking to use them in.It would offer more grip and better steering response albeit not a lot on normal tarmac and concrete roads.On muddy surfaces it will just sink in.

Again, we are not talking about 4x4 tires, but tires for the Verna that would offer a bit more GC.

As far as my suggestion to himalayan3009 goes, it was about using a 4x4 type vehicle and not his Verna in the conditions he drives in, because that would be more suited for the application.
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I would suggest Himalayan to go for 16" tires with 205/55 R16 but to drive his car on normal roads. For his occasional 4X4 trips its better he hires an offroader vehicle. Such muddy conditions will definitely won't do good to his Verna's brakes and suspension right? Brakes will wear faster due to mud stuck in pads and scratches in brake dics. Prolonged use can also lead to heavy wear and tire right? Such roads always take a heavy toll on suspension right? Please correct me if i am wrong but which ever tire he chooses its better not to take his car through those muddy roads.

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@jarpickle: yes this is the main reason i am thinking to go with 15 inchers. I have one question. What if i use 195/65/r15. Will it solve my issue? What is the life of rally tires as compared to normal ones which we have in our rides?
i do not like SUVs that much. Thats why i buyed a sedan.

OT: there is a saying in our area that maruti 800 can fail any SUV here as we have bad roads+ they are too narrow that SUV can't be drived on that roads. Link roads connecting to main roads are katchha roads and becomes vary bad in rainy seasons.
 
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I think its best to leave Himalayan to make his decision at his own pace.

hahaha, praise the mighty 800.

Yes the 195/65 R15 will give you more gc but your highspeed capability will take a hit.Check out my initial posts I have done a comparison there.

Rally tires are specially made for different stages of rally.They do last long but not as long as road tires.You need to find tires made for loose gravel and mud.But they are hard to find and need to be imported.

Stick with the local made tires from companies like Bridgestone, Michelin and MRF.Just check the date of the tires and pick the ones that have been manufactured in the last couple of months.Not older than 6 months.

Look for tires with nice grooves so they wont loose traction in the mud.Compare it with a MAXXIS MUDZILLA that is used in Jeeps and 4x4's, you will get an idea as to what kind of tires you would need.
 
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Guys need your help, i am in Chandigah and after roaming everywhere here i have selected these few designs. If its good enough then please approve or you can simply reject these ones.
All are in 15 inches
 
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Which one do you like Pankaj?Afterall you have to live with the car.Make sure you have a proper warranty and bill.

I can see a multispoke next to the rim in the second picture.How about that?
 
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