Suggest New Smart Phone For 15K (Bought Nokia Lumia 620. More: Pg.60)

[Raja]

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Nice info Raja, Yes good to know WM8 allows adding tiles as per user is great! I know it does on W8 Desktop.
Yeah I am kind of old with regard to windows mobile, as I stopped at Windows 6.5 where there was no support for adding custom tiles there was only 5 or 6 predefined tiles.
Regarding the updates its nice to know Windows also offers timely updates. Yes definitely the android devices are not good in offering updates.
So for RK that's good news, L620 looks very attractive. As long as you like it, make a call.

It won't be easy for Gurralla though , since some one will suggest one more phone and then this thread will run for 2-3 pages more nothing wrong in that its just my observation

 

[nitin_k]

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Iam using windows phone since its version 7 then I got 7.2 update then 7.5 and now 7.8 .

Apple and ms mobile devices get timely updates regardless of the popularity of the devices . When I bought my iPad it was 4.3 now it is running 6.2.

Don't know how many androids out there must be getting timely updates .

Android being an open source platform enables OEMs to modify the operating system to add their own interface and additional features. Each OEM has come up with their own skin like Sense by HTC, TouchWiz by Samsung, Optimus by LG etc., which separates their devices from the competition and also adds a value of its own. So their main aim to maximize their profits and release new devices with better specs and features.

If you want a pure google experience, we have the nexus phones.
What makes the Nexus phones unique? Unlike most of the flagships launched by OEMs, they come with stock Android, unlockable bootloader and are the first devices to receive all the latest Android updates soon after they are launched.

so in android, you have the best of the best and worst of the worst all jostling for attention and market, making the devices both affordable and a win win situation for the buyers. So it boils down to the buyer as to what he wants in his phone + ability to update the OS as and when he wants by changing the roms and being flexible if the OEM does not give OTA updates.

now with mmx, they have announced JB for their flagship - Micromax A110 Canvas 2, but it wont be OTA, people will have to take it to their Service Stations thus saving costs for MMX as it does not need to invest in high capacity servers with fast internet to handle the traffic. Inshort, only those who want the update will visit them thus saving them the trouble of bad publicity + saving them from the stigma that they do not offer any updates.

and comparing IOS or Win 7 to android is not right since IOS has 5/6 devices so giving updates is easy, same is with Nokia/HTC + windows, you can count the handsets with your fingertips. Also let us see how many updates your 800 will get since WP8 is out and you are on a outdated os.

 

[Gurrala74]

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Hmm, raja,Indian,Nitin and others,

Just see the post no.733 to 737 for example, wonderful information to learn. Hope others agree on this too.

This is beauty of this thread, it not just buying a mobile, but understanding lot of things about technology and other things.

To be sincere, before starting this thread, I know very little(may be nothing except make a call and receive call from phone) and today after these many pages of discussion and valuable contribution from fellow members, I am better about mobiles now and I am at least eligible to suggest something to somebody from now

It seems the stores are closed today due to Sunday and also Maha shivratri, So I can check the mobile tomorrow only

 

[Raja]

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Android being an open source platform enables OEMs to modify the operating system to add their own interface and additional features. Each OEM has come up with their own skin like Sense by HTC, TouchWiz by Samsung, Optimus by LG etc., which separates their devices from the competition and also adds a value of its own. So their main aim to maximize their profits and release new devices with better specs and features.

If you want a pure google experience, we have the nexus phones.
What makes the Nexus phones unique? Unlike most of the flagships launched by OEMs, they come with stock Android, unlockable bootloader and are the first devices to receive all the latest Android updates soon after they are launched.

so in android, you have the best of the best and worst of the worst all jostling for attention and market, making the devices both affordable and a win win situation for the buyers. So it boils down to the buyer as to what he wants in his phone + ability to update the OS as and when he wants by changing the roms and being flexible if the OEM does not give OTA updates.

now with mmx, they have announced JB for their flagship - Micromax A110 Canvas 2, but it wont be OTA, people will have to take it to their Service Stations thus saving costs for MMX as it does not need to invest in high capacity servers with fast internet to handle the traffic. Inshort, only those who want the update will visit them thus saving them the trouble of bad publicity + saving them from the stigma that they do not offer any updates.

and comparing IOS or Win 7 to android is not right since IOS has 5/6 devices so giving updates is easy, same is with Nokia/HTC + windows, you can count the handsets with your fingertips. Also let us see how many updates your 800 will get since WP8 is out and you are on a outdated os.

+100 nicely explained .

Already got the 7.8 update . See the update process started from 7-7.2-7.5-7.8 not bad . Similarly people who bought gingerbread have not got any support .

7.8 device will be supported by nokia till 2016 then the updates will be stopped . Fair enough I think . And my phone after 7.8 has become more better I mean it serves my needs more then perfectly . ( subjective ).

 

[Superbad]

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+100 nicely explained .

Already got the 7.8 update . See the update process started from 7-7.2-7.5-7.8 not bad . Similarly people who bought gingerbread have not got any support .

7.8 device will be supported by nokia till 2016 then the updates will be stopped . Fair enough I think . And my phone after 7.8 has become more better I mean it serves my needs more then perfectly . ( subjective ).

nexus phones have received timely updates.

but then mobiles go outdated within one or at the max two years.

people either dump them (for a change) or sell it to buy the next best phone.

the USP of androids is customisable OS, which no other OS windows can match.

there are exceptions to it though , but the developer support is pretty miniscule for that compared to the androids.

 

[Raja]

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nexus phones have received timely updates.

but then mobiles go outdated within one or at the max two years.

people either dump them (for a change) or sell it to buy the next best phone.

the USP of androids is customisable OS, which no other OS windows can match.

there are exceptions to it though , but the developer support is pretty miniscule for that compared to the androids.

Brother iam taking about the uniformity in updates in windows its not just limited to some phone all brands get them ( Agree with nitin that brands making windows phone are handful )

The nexus line does get I agree but then many friends of mine have never got any updates on their androids too which have been non- nexus devices as we don't get nexus phones officially here .

Yes if customization is main goal then android is the best and only option till ubuntu arrives .

If I ever buy a android it will be for design and camera and not for customization since those things don't excite me and might pick a Sony or Motorola .

 

[Gurrala74]

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I have two questions, I think Raja can answer these better since he is using a windows phone.

1. What are live tiles and updating themselves ??
2. What kind of changes benefited you after the 7.8 update on your mobile

 

[edios]

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Yes. Live tiles means you ll get updates of the particular app in the tile itself.

 

[Gurrala74]

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Yes. Live tiles means you ll get updates of the particular app in the tile itself.

So do those eat away the battery ??, if I do not need them to get updated, then can I stop them

 

[Raja]

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= Gurrala74;269168]I have two questions, I think Raja can answer these better since he is using a windows phone.

1. What are live tiles and updating themselves ??

Edios already answered your question

Yes. Live tiles means you ll get updates of the particular app in the tile itself.

2. What kind of changes benefited you after the 7.8 update on your mobile

Resizing of tiles , to have more content on my screen , camera enhancements from nokia too and general performance, Bluetooth transfer .and this matter less to you since you will be buying if atall you buy a win8 phone and not 7.8 .

 

[Indian]

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Android being an open source platform enables OEMs to modify the operating system to add their own interface and additional features. Each OEM has come up with their own skin like Sense by HTC, TouchWiz by Samsung, Optimus by LG etc., which separates their devices from the competition and also adds a value of its own. So their main aim to maximize their profits and release new devices with better specs and features.

If you want a pure google experience, we have the nexus phones.
What makes the Nexus phones unique? Unlike most of the flagships launched by OEMs, they come with stock Android, unlockable bootloader and are the first devices to receive all the latest Android updates soon after they are launched.

so in android, you have the best of the best and worst of the worst all jostling for attention and market, making the devices both affordable and a win win situation for the buyers. So it boils down to the buyer as to what he wants in his phone + ability to update the OS as and when he wants by changing the roms and being flexible if the OEM does not give OTA updates.

now with mmx, they have announced JB for their flagship - Micromax A110 Canvas 2, but it wont be OTA, people will have to take it to their Service Stations thus saving costs for MMX as it does not need to invest in high capacity servers with fast internet to handle the traffic. Inshort, only those who want the update will visit them thus saving them the trouble of bad publicity + saving them from the stigma that they do not offer any updates.

and comparing IOS or Win 7 to android is not right since IOS has 5/6 devices so giving updates is easy, same is with Nokia/HTC + windows, you can count the handsets with your fingertips. Also let us see how many updates your 800 will get since WP8 is out and you are on a outdated os.

Nithin, you summarized everything very nicely!
I feel if one has come registered to TAI and started this thread then I would call him a 'advanced user' and for advanced user I recommend a good (Powerful) android device. There are endless options. Right now one might say 'I will not root my phone' or 'I just need to check my email only' but once you get the device the chances are very bright that you want everything play store offers.

Regarding the OTA for micromax, I think its a good move. Making sure only the one need get it. When OTA, people just get the update even if their use is just the SMS and call. Once updated they are the one going to cry about the missing features and performance. So I think that is the reason why they have done it a manual update, may not be for the server load issue IMO.

@RK, yes because of the thread you started I am pretty sure its educational for so many people to understand and really judge what is what including myself. Only thing is now we want a 'nice ending to your quest'. Make sure you do it that should give lot of people encouragement and belief in these kind of discussions. I am pretty sure many people must have just joined this forum for the sake of participating in this thread.

Some OT Stuff:
As Nithin said I am using pure android AOSP, with option to choose tablet or phone interface based on app called PA. I am able to customize each apps look and feel. Including the color what it shows on the top and bottom bars! I also have dual boot option so that any new version released I try on other boot and see if I am satisfied. So its amazing world out there if you are ready to spend some time. I am not saying other OS is not good, but there is a huge advantage being on android side(IMHO). I am not waiting for any updates OTA, I already have 4.2.1 with excellent battery life.

 

[Superbad]

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a nice article to read.

Editorial: Should you trust Local Brands with your money when buying an Android - Droidiser | Android + Tech

 

[Gurrala74]

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Nice article SB, but it more talks about OS, processor, camera, but what is really missing in local brands and why people buy reputed one like Samsung,sony,htc,nokia ?? is that for name sake ?? NO, there are things like

The reliability, we will come to know about this within few months of use where touch screen not responding properly, mobile getting heated, battery gets drained faster, camera clarity is missing. Why this happens ??

Because all these local brands use un-branded stuff rather I can call cheap Chinese stuff(a camera device, a battery(you get plenty of grades in same lithium ion battery), a touch screen, body built quality) and major draw back in these local brands is SAR value which is always high. I am saying this with the experience of using MMX,Lava,Spice phones some time back.

So with the screen size and processor and OS these look great and most of the people buy also due to the less price, but they miss out on the above listed things very badly.

A important thing even some body agree or not, I really cannot carry a Lava/celkon phone and keep it on a important conference table, where people starts looking at me bit differently(it is the truth about a respect you gain outside). One will come to know about this when they experience only

@Indian, thank you and wish me that my choice will be a VFM and guides others too !!

 

[Superbad]

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Nice article SB, but it more talks about OS, processor, camera, but what is really missing in local brands and why people buy reputed one like Samsung,sony,htc,nokia ?? is that for name sake ?? NO, there are things like

The reliability, we will come to know about this within few months of use where touch screen not responding properly, mobile getting heated, battery gets drained faster, camera clarity is missing. Why this happens ??

Because all these local brands use un-branded stuff rather I can call cheap Chinese stuff(a camera device, a battery(you get plenty of grades in same lithium ion battery), a touch screen, body built quality) and major draw back in these local brands is SAR value which is always high. I am saying this with the experience of using MMX,Lava,Spice phones some time back.

So with the screen size and processor and OS these look great and most of the people buy also due to the less price, but they miss out on the above listed things very badly.

A important thing even some body agree or not, I really cannot carry a Lava/celkon phone and keep it on a important conference table, where people starts looking at me bit differently(it is the truth about a respect you gain outside). One will come to know about this when they experience only

@Indian, thank you and wish me that my choice will be a VFM and guides others too !!

you are stereotyping the brand because of their entry level offering.

regarding the brands mentioned , i can state it is result of herd mentality.

there have been cases with sony, samsung, HTC wherein the phone had developed the same types of problems associated with the likes of micromax but then those companies get the benefit of doubt because they are big brands and their phones are manufactured in china.

regarding the micromax and the phone in specific the canvas 2 and the likes, there is big community supporting it and none of them have reported any flaws you've been mentioning so far.

so its just the question of buying what suits your preference.

if it gives you peace of mind buying a nokia,samsung or htc , please do the same.

they too can fail and people who have taken their phones to the SC also have had their phone with the service centre for 7 months or more.

time out for me

 

[edios]

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So with a Lumia you'll surely gain respect Gurrala!!