Seating Position in Maruti Suzuki Ritz

[Iron Rock]

Re: My First Diesel Hatch: Maruti Suzuki Ritz VDi (Used) Review

^^Our other member has understood it well than you

Thats why i said pardon my ignorance when i started - but unfortunately you decided to add no further points and leave things to interpretation.

Regarding Anshuman comment do you agree that Ritz seat height is similar to Ecosport or Quanto ? From hatchbacks to compact SUVs to Storme we are comparing everything(which is brilliantly amusing) , i am just wanting to get down to what we are talking of and trying to make some sense of it.

 

[Gurrala74]

Re: My First Diesel Hatch: Maruti Suzuki Ritz VDi (Used) Review

^^Hmm, sorry if it is OT, what more should say to this I am good at teaching management students and my skills are really bad for kindergarten

 

[Iron Rock]

Re: My First Diesel Hatch: Maruti Suzuki Ritz VDi (Used) Review

^^Hmm, sorry if it is OT, what more should say to this I am good at teaching management students and my skills are really bad for kindergarten

If that is your excuse on not being able to back a statement nice attempt , btw kindergarten students are getting way smarter these days.

But and on a serious note the purpose of a forum always is to have a quality debate and my purpose was not to dig your grave by asking questions but to make sense of what is being written(my question was genuine and i was perplexed by what was meant in your statement) , there is no point in making a statement and then scooting. The readers get 0 benefit. If you had explained, it probably would have benefited me as well as a lot more of our readers. Lets do our bit to increase the quality factor, otherwise it leads to lame OT as it has happened above unfortunately. Not knowing an answer is also perfectly fine, which is why i said i understand your response. Anyways no more OT, we want to encourage good quality debates and the difference between it and casual trolling builds the foundation of a forum.

 

[Gurrala74]

Re: My First Diesel Hatch: Maruti Suzuki Ritz VDi (Used) Review

@IR

You are attempting very hard for a simple thing, why I do not know. There is absolutely no need for you to explain so much how and why a forum is for to a person who is almost 4 year old here. There is nothing that I need to back my statement with some data and proof as it is something about what you feel when you sit and drive, so it is bit difficult to explain you about it in your own words, please try to drive the cars mentioned by me to know the difference. I am surprised that you are not able to understand this as you drive XUV yourself and drove a Civic earlier so you fairly understand what kind of a seating difference both have. I am always here to answer if a member raise the same question again OR else I will demonstrate to you with a video if I get some time. There is no absolute need to use the words like "dig,grave,sense,scooting,quality factor,lame,trolling".

 

[Iron Rock]

Re: My First Diesel Hatch: Maruti Suzuki Ritz VDi (Used) Review

i asked some straight forward simple questions , is the floor low ? is the door big ? are the seats any different to understand how the ritz is suv type - there has to be something or the other to understand more on what you say it is - as you said it is simple, so there should be a perfectly simple explanation i fully agree to that. (But all it resulted was a bunch load of OT and not one straight answer to the question and you magically still expect me to understand even though i admitted i am not good at telepathy)

Anyways let bygones be bygones and lets try to still make some sense.
Let me explain since you also brought the xuv and civic(also) to the debate, the civic is pretty low slung , has a low floor, seats are sitting on the base of the floor really, roof is low as well, the wheelbase is long and the suspension super soft and sinks with load. All of the above plays a factor in ingress/egress in some way.

XUV on the other hand is a monocoque with 200mm GC - its neither too much GC or too less GC, its a soft roader - so you dont have to climb in to neither have to bend deep below - the physics is obvious.

So akin to above - i was only hoping to understand how ritz, xuv or storme are similar, but why a swift, i10 or something else is different. As you said there is always a simple explanation - but i saw everything but the explanation.

 

[Gurrala74]

Re: My First Diesel Hatch: Maruti Suzuki Ritz VDi (Used) Review

^^You got the answer yourself !!

Why it is easy in Ritz/storme/xuv and not in figo,I10 is because of their height/GC/door size/seat height from the floor/steering position and finally my height all these play a role behind my statement and for a short height person like 5' I10 may be super ingress/egress and for him Ritz may look not suitable. Hope I made some sensible explanation at last

 

[Iron Rock]

Re: My First Diesel Hatch: Maruti Suzuki Ritz VDi (Used) Review

^^You got the answer yourself !!

Why it is easy in Ritz/storme/xuv and not in figo,I10 is because of their height/GC/door size/seat height from the floor/steering position and finally my height all these play a role behind my statement and for a short height person like 5' I10 may be super ingress/egress and for him Ritz may look not suitable. Hope I made some sensible explanation at last

My question was never about xuv and civic, i have the answers there, i was only trying to understand ritz better.

The Ritz height is more than other hatchbacks, so that does give an advantage in ingress , its 90mm more than swift in height so there is a clear advantage for tall people purely from a ingress/egress perspective. So yes height factor helps.

But what about GC/door size/ seat height - is it any difference amidst competition/peers ? Can you elaborate further as to what this difference is and how is view forward sitting in the seats better ? If we talk specifics we can reach to a conclusion/clarity of statements better (thats one reason i explained xuv and civic though they are unrelated to topic here ).

 

[Gurrala74]

Hmm God, hope this will help you to see the seat height. I just selected a Figo to show you a difference with Ritz.

Picture source : carwale

 

[anshuman8]

Can we get similar figures for ES and Quanto ?

 

[Iron Rock]

Ahh, now you are finally showing data to explain what you meant - I am glad, how do you interpret this data vs your comments ?
Did you mean it seats you 11 cm higher than Figo - so your view ahead is better ? So its SUV type ? Do you have a similar image for swift, can you please send source link of carwale too.

So this is more the kind of quality we should be putting and clarifying - this is appreciated.

 

[Raja]

Can we get similar figures for ES and Quanto ?

Do you seriously need it sir ?

I have not driven the ritz ever , but I have driven the nano , I think you have one nano too .

The seating in nano is quite upright , the car itself is a tall boy desgin and observed closely the seating is also bit up from the floor of the car when it is relatively compared to other cars .

So after driving say a old alto which is a quite a low slung hatch back and the seating which starts quite close to the floor , if you drive a nano it feels as if you are driving a SUV when relatively compared to a alto or other low slung hatches or even cars .

Similarly I think is the ritz which is a tall boy desgin , and maybe the seating must be a bit up from the floor if you compare it to say a figo or a brio , and hence might give a SUV driving feeling only when it is relatively compared to brio or figo but not a nano .
In no way a ritz or any tall boy car can be compared to a quanto , storme or a xuv or a Scorpio in any way .

 

[manojodungat]

Hmm God, hope this will help you to see the seat height. I just selected a Figo to show you a difference with Ritz.
Picture source : carwale

Which measurement/dimension you posted you think gives you the advantage of "SUV like seating" in Ritz ?

 

[Gurrala74]

^^Hmm, I remember a saying " Things are simple, people are critical"

It is with the upright seating position in Ritz makes me feel I am driving a SUV if I compare it with Figo, Brio. As simple as that.

@Manoj, IR already answered to this question in his post number 25 and please refer to the dimensional pics on post number 23

 

[dharmesh]

IMO seating of Ritz is more or less similar to Wagon-R.

There is huge difference in how I felt driving my Punto and driving FIL's Wagon-R. Although Punto having good amount of GC the distance between floor and seat is less, while in Wagon-R I can seat upright and also the space between floor and seat is more.

 

[manojodungat]

^^IR, It was comfortable with XUV,Storme and Ritz than other cars I mentioned, so you can interpret and conclude

@Manoj, IR already answered to this question in his post number 25 and please refer to the dimensional pics on post number 23

Loved the expression of “SUV like seating” of Ritz? Since this “feeling” is subjective, can’t debate but comparing it with that of the likes of Storme is something not expected.

It’s not just the seat height, if at all you meant.

Eon: 615mm
i 20: 620 mm
Swift : 650 mm
Ritz : 660mm
Vista : 660 mm
Polo : 620 mm
Edit: source: carwale

You can, of course be seated on a pillow to sit higher on a hatch, but will soon revert back with not so comfortable OE steering position.

Objectively speaking, it all depends on the steering wheel position, the seat height, seat back angle, driver posture etc. Even with a seat height of 660mm in tall boy hatches like Ritz, comparing it with that of an SUV is simply going overboard. Of course, Ritz might have an advantage of higher seating position compared to other hatches for the better overall visibility

To bring in some sanity, here is the dimensions of an SUV. Though can’t make out all factors, the seating height is a good pointer.



Source:Carwale

P.S: Its always nice to provide a working link to provide due credit to the original source,