As per the reports, the engines will continue to be the same. Also i feel coming up with a turbo in 1.2L heart wont be wise. The Petrol heart of Punto has just a decent fuel economy, and with a turbocharger, it will definitely get lowered down which Fiat india would never want to do especially in India where the petrol prices are increasing every now and then.
New Fiat Punto Evo - Is it Coming?
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Turbocharging does not decrease the fuel efficiency of engine. Turbocharger uses the heat energy of engine exhaust to run a compressor which in turn compresses air and sent it to engine intake for increasing volumetric efficiency. Main purpose of turbocharger is to produce more power without increasing engine capacity. However in some cases turbocharger is added to increase FE without increasing power.
For FE figures, let us compare Fiat 1.4 FIRE & 1.4 Turbocharge FIRE (for Linea & T-jet respectively):
Claimed FE of N.A. 1.4 FIRE = 14.2 kmpl
Claimed FE of 1.4 Tjet = 14.6 kmpl.
So turbochargeing is not synonymous with decrease in FE.
However, I do believe that Fiat will not introduce 1.2 Turbocharged FIRE. It was just a wishful thinking.
Sorry for going OT.
For FE figures, let us compare Fiat 1.4 FIRE & 1.4 Turbocharge FIRE (for Linea & T-jet respectively):
Claimed FE of N.A. 1.4 FIRE = 14.2 kmpl
Claimed FE of 1.4 Tjet = 14.6 kmpl.
So turbochargeing is not synonymous with decrease in FE.
However, I do believe that Fiat will not introduce 1.2 Turbocharged FIRE. It was just a wishful thinking.
Sorry for going OT.
The news seems to become true soon enough! Fiat Punto Evo is soon expected to be launched.
Fiat Punto Evo to be launched in India - Yahoo! News
Fiat Punto Evo to be launched in India - Yahoo! News
I am seriously hoping that Fiat will soon launch Punto Evo in India. It will give Fiat India will get an opportunity to resurrect themselves and undo the past mistake made during launch of Punto.
Fiat should also portray Punto Evo as all new car to loose some baggage of present Punto : specially issues of poor interior plastic quality. Also it should be backed by a media campaign that highlights USP of Punto. Fiat should understand that in a utterly FE & cost conscious market like India, Punto will never be a mass market product. It is a premium product and should be portrayed like one. Rather than aiming for Maruti/Hyundai success story, Fiat should aim at VW Polo. Punto's USP such as beautiful exterior & interior, powerful engine along with its features and dynamics should be amply highlighted in the campaign.
I feel initial marketing promotion of Punto was very confusing and without any clear cut strategy to highlight its USP. In the initial slow moving ad featuring Yuvraj Singh, Punto was never made the star it could have been.
Now with Punto going steady at around 1000 mark, Fiat could borrow a trick from Maruti Suzuki's strategy with WagonR. When WagonR was struggling during 2004-05, MSIL started a new ad campaign for WagonR. They highlighted that WagonR is a kind of niche product and used by special people with special taste. (remember the ad: "He argues sharply at courtroom, plays Jazz and drives WagonR).
Fiat too can portray that Punto Evo is not a run of the mill product and meant for special people with special preference. People who are
1.Extravagant,
2.Possess out of the box thinking,
3.Drives car for pleasure and
4.Prefers heart over head.
And why he should drive Fiat Punto Evo: because it is:
1. Very very beautiful
2. Modern with state of art interior.
3. Possesses most powerful diesel engine & very powerful petrol engine in the segment.
4. Best ride & handling.
5. Smart choice as it offers best service interval with extended warranty backed by roadside support.
IMO only the powerful engines of Punto (90 HP MJD & FIRE) should be highlighted to project Punto Evo as a high end product. Present 1.2 Fire engine has portrayed Punto as a sluggish car and nobody seemed interested in capable 1.4 FIRE engine. (As per ACI data, in gear acceleration of 1.4 engine is pretty good and at par with competition such as Polo & Swift.) It is easier to go down the scale rather than going up. People smitten by Punto Evo's charm may opt for 1.2 but those annoyed with sluggishness of Punto 1.2 may not even give 1.4 a second thought.
Fiat should also portray Punto Evo as all new car to loose some baggage of present Punto : specially issues of poor interior plastic quality. Also it should be backed by a media campaign that highlights USP of Punto. Fiat should understand that in a utterly FE & cost conscious market like India, Punto will never be a mass market product. It is a premium product and should be portrayed like one. Rather than aiming for Maruti/Hyundai success story, Fiat should aim at VW Polo. Punto's USP such as beautiful exterior & interior, powerful engine along with its features and dynamics should be amply highlighted in the campaign.
I feel initial marketing promotion of Punto was very confusing and without any clear cut strategy to highlight its USP. In the initial slow moving ad featuring Yuvraj Singh, Punto was never made the star it could have been.
Now with Punto going steady at around 1000 mark, Fiat could borrow a trick from Maruti Suzuki's strategy with WagonR. When WagonR was struggling during 2004-05, MSIL started a new ad campaign for WagonR. They highlighted that WagonR is a kind of niche product and used by special people with special taste. (remember the ad: "He argues sharply at courtroom, plays Jazz and drives WagonR).
Fiat too can portray that Punto Evo is not a run of the mill product and meant for special people with special preference. People who are
1.Extravagant,
2.Possess out of the box thinking,
3.Drives car for pleasure and
4.Prefers heart over head.
And why he should drive Fiat Punto Evo: because it is:
1. Very very beautiful
2. Modern with state of art interior.
3. Possesses most powerful diesel engine & very powerful petrol engine in the segment.
4. Best ride & handling.
5. Smart choice as it offers best service interval with extended warranty backed by roadside support.
IMO only the powerful engines of Punto (90 HP MJD & FIRE) should be highlighted to project Punto Evo as a high end product. Present 1.2 Fire engine has portrayed Punto as a sluggish car and nobody seemed interested in capable 1.4 FIRE engine. (As per ACI data, in gear acceleration of 1.4 engine is pretty good and at par with competition such as Polo & Swift.) It is easier to go down the scale rather than going up. People smitten by Punto Evo's charm may opt for 1.2 but those annoyed with sluggishness of Punto 1.2 may not even give 1.4 a second thought.
it is not due to turbo it has gotten additional fe but tweaks in engine and mapping in ecu.
when it comes for power there are no free lunch . a turbo will demand more fuel consumption when rev hard.
i prefer older punto with mini mesarati looks. but the interiors of new evo is as much alluring.
let us hope for the best.
when it comes for power there are no free lunch . a turbo will demand more fuel consumption when rev hard.
i prefer older punto with mini mesarati looks. but the interiors of new evo is as much alluring.
let us hope for the best.
A turbocharger not necessarily decreases FE. That's what we learned in Mech. Engg. If one selects right turbo as per energy available at engine exhaust, it won't decrease FE. I have given example and right inference is not being drawn here:
My point is : Turbo will increase power and if tuned/selected properly, FE won't decrease at all.
As for free lunch, fact which is overlooked here is that turbo increases volumetric efficiency of the engine. Thats why power increases.
I rest my case here. We are going overly OT.
My point is : Turbo will increase power and if tuned/selected properly, FE won't decrease at all.
As for free lunch, fact which is overlooked here is that turbo increases volumetric efficiency of the engine. Thats why power increases.
I rest my case here. We are going overly OT.
Evo is available in Europe for more than a year now. They should not change the exteriors of current punto in India instead should change the interiors only. IMO, whether Palio or Punto, the original design has been the best and any face lift of exteriors has only deteriorated the looks.
hope fiat do this..
hope fiat do this..
+1. I too think that they shouldnot touch the looks. It really looks great right now, except for the wheel archs which can be moulded per Bravo.
Interiors, yes there is lots of scope for improvement.
Interiors, yes there is lots of scope for improvement.
Whats cooking at Fiat-India
For a last few days, price list in Fiat India is not opening and shows following message:
'The Prices are currently under updation. Inconvenience caused is regretted'.
Off late rumors of Punto facelift was floating around with 2 possibilities:
1. Launch of Punto Evo as being discussed here.
2. Beigified Punto with Linea interiors.
Now is the price revision somehow related to facelift. In that case option 1 can be ruled out. Evo can not be launched at such short notice without extensive testing. Nobody has caught Evo undergoing testing in India. As for option 2, it might be a distinct possibility.
However, in line with price revision of Honda City, Fiat may also cut price of Linea and this could alone be the reason.
Whatever may be the reason, not displaying price list for more than 3-4 days shows lethargic attitude of marketing people.
For a last few days, price list in Fiat India is not opening and shows following message:
'The Prices are currently under updation. Inconvenience caused is regretted'.
Off late rumors of Punto facelift was floating around with 2 possibilities:
1. Launch of Punto Evo as being discussed here.
2. Beigified Punto with Linea interiors.
Now is the price revision somehow related to facelift. In that case option 1 can be ruled out. Evo can not be launched at such short notice without extensive testing. Nobody has caught Evo undergoing testing in India. As for option 2, it might be a distinct possibility.
However, in line with price revision of Honda City, Fiat may also cut price of Linea and this could alone be the reason.
Whatever may be the reason, not displaying price list for more than 3-4 days shows lethargic attitude of marketing people.
Hi, Is it confirmed New Punto is coming? I read Fiat is not going to change their models in 2011.
