Maruti Suzuki Swift: Technical Issues & Solutions

[Akash1886]

Re: RPM Problem in Newly Bought Swift VXi

it does accelerate easily only if you slowly release clutch right? but if i suddenly release it stops

I agree with Satish! If you suddenly release the clutch then be it any MT car, from Mercedes to Maruti it will halt. Remember one thing Tushar, at present the vehicle is new so it may take the abuse but clutch is a sensitive part and if this type of driving pattern continues, the Swift may need clutch plate replacement within 10-15K km. I am sure you don't want that dear.

Regards

Akash

 

[ameyam]

Tushar, have some patience. Few points i noted when i received my Swift in October
Engine will get smoother the more you run. My car used to judder in 3rd below 30 initially. Now 3rd at 20 is no problem
Suspension was a bit stiff & ride was thrashy with tires at 33psi. Since mine is a city car, no highway running, i now keep 31psi & its much better
It has a very high clutch bite point. What you are experiencing with first gear is because of that. In the Waggie the clutch would bite much lower
If you were used to the pre-2010 waggie, this car basically has the same engine
It will roll without accelerator in 1st, you just need to get used to declutching slowly
Note that reverse gear is not syncronised, so car almost never goes into reverse in one try, especially if its rolling
If you have the lxi or vxi, brakes at low speed i.e. braking at slight pedal pressure is indifferent. Lot worse than the waggie. Be careful of that
Swift has better economy than claimed. While driving on highway with some traffic recently, i got 20kmpl. ARAI figure is 18
Be careful with those door ORVM. Just has my passenger side pulled by an errant trucker
There are benefits in getting wider tires & alloys if you have the lower trims. But for city driving, the 165 wide tires are just fine
The swift loves being driven with spirit. But the best response is when it is driven smoothly
Oh, and back seat space is a problem, especially foe senior citizens to get in and out
Ameyam

 

[tusharbhai]

hi thanks it is from only 1 tire one of my friend said tyres are new give them time so i will post later

Tushar, have some patience. Few points i noted when i received my Swift in October
Engine will get smoother the more you run. My car used to judder in 3rd below 30 initially. Now 3rd at 20 is no problem
Suspension was a bit stiff & ride was thrashy with tires at 33psi. Since mine is a city car, no highway running, i now keep 31psi & its much better
It has a very high clutch bite point. What you are experiencing with first gear is because of that. In the Waggie the clutch would bite much lower
If you were used to the pre-2010 waggie, this car basically has the same engine
It will roll without accelerator in 1st, you just need to get used to declutching slowly
Note that reverse gear is not syncronised, so car almost never goes into reverse in one try, especially if its rolling
If you have the lxi or vxi, brakes at low speed i.e. braking at slight pedal pressure is indifferent. Lot worse than the waggie. Be careful of that
Swift has better economy than claimed. While driving on highway with some traffic recently, i got 20kmpl. ARAI figure is 18
Be careful with those door ORVM. Just has my passenger side pulled by an errant trucker
There are benefits in getting wider tires & alloys if you have the lower trims. But for city driving, the 165 wide tires are just fine
The swift loves being driven with spirit. But the best response is when it is driven smoothly
Oh, and back seat space is a problem, especially foe senior citizens to get in and out
Ameyam

hi thanks for the detailed review 1 thing is if i give more acceleration in first gear engine gives knocking sound normal?2.what should be the trye air pressure.3.does low end performance increases with time or will it remain same.4.with ac my rpm increases is it normal?5.in harsh road it creates noise its not silent is it normal 6.why is it written 22.5kmpl in instrument cluster if its average is 20.8 by the company7.does speed petrol worth? thankss a ton

 

[ameyam]

By knocking, what do you mean? If you are getting a untoward sound, you should report to the MASS immediately
Tyre pressure recommended for the r14 tires is 33psi. I found that for city driving 1 or 2 psi lower gives a more compliant ride
Low end performance (pickup] will remain same or reduce
Rpm increase when aircon is switched on is normal
I dont know where 23kmpl is mentioned on the instrument cluster. If you are referring to the instatenous mileage reading, it had no meaning. Calculate mileage by tank to tank method
Speed petrol is not really needed

 

[tusharbhai]

By knocking, what do you mean? If you are getting a untoward sound, you should report to the MASS immediately
Tyre pressure recommended for the r14 tires is 33psi. I found that for city driving 1 or 2 psi lower gives a more compliant ride
Low end performance (pickup] will remain same or reduce
Rpm increase when aircon is switched on is normal
I dont know where 23kmpl is mentioned on the instrument cluster. If you are referring to the instatenous mileage reading, it had no meaning. Calculate mileage by tank to tank method
Speed petrol is not really needed

thanks but if i slowly release clutch in first gear does not it effect clutch life2. its not instantaneous fuel consumption its average
3.we got 5 litres free petrol plus we filled 10 litres more now in range reading its sayingit will run 40kms more only current tripmeter reading is 100 kms so in total it will run 140kms in 15litres lol

 

[ameyam]

Tushar, do list your questions one below the other rather than in line

The job of the clutch is to provide slipping transfer of rotation, so it is built to slip. Releasing clutch slowly does shorten its life but not appreciably. Note that in automobiles, clutch and brake pads are treated as consumables

The meter average out your consumption over some distances. Not sure what distance it calculates. Mines has read all values from 6 to 25. The only accurate way of getting a believable reading is the tank to tank method
That value of 40km is your range to reserve. When it reads zero, you have about 10litres of fuel in your tank and the fuel warning light will come on. Its got nothing to do with mileage
I really suggest you go through the manual once

Ameyam

 

[tusharbhai]

thanks bro 1 more thing gears are tight a little do they get smooth over time and what is done on first service?

 

[ameyam]

I did tell you- In the first few days, 2nd at 20 and 3rd at 30 would make the car judder. Now, I put it into 3rd at 20-25, no problems at all

Ameyam

 

[tusharbhai]

ok so performance increases slightly over time thanks and should i make my tyre pressure 33psi for all tyres or there is a difference between front and rear tyres. thank you so much

 

[ameyam]

You need to experiment & find out for yourself

Ameyam

 

[Sidd7hartha]

ok so performance increases slightly over time thanks and should i make my tyre pressure 33psi for all tyres or there is a difference between front and rear tyres. thank you so much

Check your user manual.

If you have the lxi or vxi, brakes at low speed i.e. braking at slight pedal pressure is indifferent. Lot worse than the waggie. Be careful of that

I think only ABS breaks are responsive at light pressure. The Zxi version of Ritz with ABS has more break bite. WagnoR's engine is less powerful than Swift.I think that may be reason for its break is more responsive without ABS.But this is guess. Friends should correct me.

 

[tusharbhai]

hi my car has completed 140kms and now petrol light has turned on and it gives a beep on ignition on will it run furthur without filling fuel? it has run only 140kms in 16litres lol not even 10 average

 

[Akash1886]

hi my car has completed 140kms and now petrol light has turned on and it gives a beep on ignition on will it run furthur without filling fuel? it has run only 140kms in 16litres lol not even 10 average

Its a case of short-fueling by petrol station dear. ASAP change the petrol station. A new car can't be so bad in performance.

Regards

Akash

 

[ameyam]

Akash,

I beg to differ. Initially, even my car averaged 8 or 9. It will improve with running

Tushar, you may not have heard the handing over instructions at the time of hand over at the MASS completely. They usually put in about a small amount of fuel when they handover. They expect you to tank up after you leave the MASS.

Based on your prior posts, your car came with about 5L of fuel and you filled in another 10L. So you had 15L and at that point your car had 100km on the trip meter (meaning it had already covered 100km) and the range was given as 40KM. Now the trip meter reads 140 km meaning you drove 40km after the fuel was put in. The fuel light is now ON. The fuel light comes on when you have 10L or less in your tank. So it means that you ran 40km in about 15L-10L = 5L. So your average is 40/5 i.e. about 8kmpl. Even if the pump short filled you, assuming your car is petrol and has been driven around mostly in city traffic, 8kmpl is a respectable figure for a brand new car. It will improve over time.

Tushar, you really need to go through that manual and understand the systems your car came with

To get around pump short supplies, best thing to do is keep your tank full. What I did is filled the tank one time upto cutoff. Then every Sunday I go to the same pump and ask them to fill the tank upto cutoff and no more. They always offer to round off the value and I always refuse. You may have heard that pumps are able to manipulate round figure values for fuel. Meaning, they set their instruments to give you less fuel in multiples of Rs 100, 200, 500, 1000 and so on. When you fill cutoff to cutoff, the value is never a round figure, so it minimizes chances of short supplies. Short of challenging them to demonstrate that exact value is being delivered using a measuring can, this is the best you can do

Ameyam

 

[VISHNUCARCRAZY]

Akash,

I beg to differ. Initially, even my car averaged 8 or 9. It will improve with running

Tushar, you may not have heard the handing over instructions at the time of hand over at the MASS completely. They usually put in about a small amount of fuel when they handover. They expect you to tank up after you leave the MASS.

Based on your prior posts, your car came with about 5L of fuel and you filled in another 10L. So you had 15L and at that point your car had 100km on the trip meter (meaning it had already covered 100km) and the range was given as 40KM. Now the trip meter reads 140 km meaning you drove 40km after the fuel was put in. The fuel light is now ON. The fuel light comes on when you have 10L or less in your tank. So it means that you ran 40km in about 15L-10L = 5L. So your average is 40/5 i.e. about 8kmpl. Even if the pump short filled you, assuming your car is petrol and has been driven around mostly in city traffic, 8kmpl is a respectable figure for a brand new car. It will improve over time.

Tushar, you really need to go through that manual and understand the systems your car came with

To get around pump short supplies, best thing to do is keep your tank full. What I did is filled the tank one time upto cutoff. Then every Sunday I go to the same pump and ask them to fill the tank upto cutoff and no more. They always offer to round off the value and I always refuse. You may have heard that pumps are able to manipulate round figure values for fuel. Meaning, they set their instruments to give you less fuel in multiples of Rs 100, 200, 500, 1000 and so on. When you fill cutoff to cutoff, the value is never a round figure, so it minimizes chances of short supplies. Short of challenging them to demonstrate that exact value is being delivered using a measuring can, this is the best you can do

Ameyam

I agree with you ameyam,
A new car till first service completes(1000km),there is a run in period,till then can't expect a great mileage.