If Petrol Price Crosses 100 Rs/Ltr. What Will You Do?

[Britto]

Re: Fuel Prices- Is it going to be an end for enthusiasts drives

Talks about hybrid is all over the place, but again use coal based power for powering electric cars makes no sense, am I missing something here ?

And the infrastructure required for setting up clear electric ( Electricity generated from renewable source ) is very very sparce as we are speaking.

Hopefully the government takes measure to reduce the fuel costs for the time being atleast until dollar and crude oil recovers... common 15 rs tax very liter of fuel is damn high !!

 

[harishankar]

Agree, if the electricity is being generated by coal plants, what is the use of electric vehicles? Since the pollution by burning coal will only increase with demand for charging electric vehicles.


I feel that alternative cleaner fuel (CNG or even fuel cell technology) option is much better solution and more easy to achieve, but will the petroleum lobby allow it?

 

[anshuman8]

Petrol prices have risen over Rs 92 in some parts of India and Diesel above Rs 81. How long common man can sustain these prices.

I think the wish of OP will come true very soon.

 

[thegreatv]

I too agree that the fuel prices need to be high to discourage people from using vehicles unnecessarily. The governments should work on implementing cheap better public transport options with good connectivity. But the way things are going on this only seems a distant dream! There is no seriousness in resolving this issue. Common man will just have to fend for himself.

 

[SilverEyez]

Even after prices rising so rapidly, i have not seen a minute drop in the city traffic or fewer cars on road, it means people are ready to pay more for fuel.

 

[ankathil.arjun]

The direct effect of hike in petrol prices is usually not as much as the indirect effect. Our cost per km hardly changes, and other than cab operators and transporters, the fuel price hike does not affect most of us a lot directly. For a person whose fuel costs would have been INR 2000 a month would now be paying 2100, which is not a major difference. However, the fuel costs also adds up to other costs for us. For example, in areas without water connections, who depend on water tankers, the cost per tanker load has been increased. Similarly, there would be an affect on the prices of commodities as the shipping charges would be affected.

Cab operators who were already on wafer thin margins to compete with Ola/Uber are facing the brunt of the fuel prices. Many bigger players are still doing okay, but the smaller operators are in verge of shutdown now from what I heard from the people in the business. It is still profitable for those who also have busses and EVs but its a narrow line for smaller operators who only have car fleets.

 

[SilverEyez]

The direct effect of hike in petrol prices is usually not as much as the indirect effect. Our cost per km hardly changes, and other than cab operators and transporters, the fuel price hike does not affect most of us a lot directly. For a person whose fuel costs would have been INR 2000 a month would now be paying 2100, which is not a major difference. However, the fuel costs also adds up to other costs for us. For example, in areas without water connections, who depend on water tankers, the cost per tanker load has been increased. Similarly, there would be an affect on the prices of commodities as the shipping charges would be affected.

Cab operators who were already on wafer thin margins to compete with Ola/Uber are facing the brunt of the fuel prices. Many bigger players are still doing okay, but the smaller operators are in verge of shutdown now from what I heard from the people in the business. It is still profitable for those who also have busses and EVs but its a narrow line for smaller operators who only have car fleets.

A very valid and substantial point In-Direct Effect
In-Direct Effect:
*) Increase of Fare price in Local transport (Buses,State Transport,Taxis,Rickshaws)
*) Increase in the price of School Buses
*) Increase in the price of Goods Transport
and many more things,
its a connected circle increasing the prices of not only transport but also many other household items[thinking]

 

[GautamJ]

Isn’t the cost of ownership of an EV more or less the same when compared to fossil-fueled cars?
AFAIK the battery needs replacement after certain years (7-8 years) down the line and in no means it’s cheap. Keeping that in mind, EV seems to pollute less if charged by renewable sources. So, not much of a difference between the two.

Note: I can be wrong. Feel free to correct me.

 

[anshuman8]

*) Increase of Fare price in Local transport (Buses,State Transport,Taxis,Rickshaws)

its a connected circle increasing the prices of not only transport but also many other household items[thinking]

The public transport tickets (Govt) are not increased and all STUs are bleeding with losses. Private Operators cannot increase charges overnight as there will be fall in demand as consumers tend to switch to rail/air travel for long distances.

Even losses for railways is mounting as more than 50% locomotives run on diesel.

Cab operators also are in mess with profits going down barely they can survive.

 

[Amruth]

In my case there is no way other than minimizing usage of my car which is a Petrol sedan and have a FE 10 Km/L in City and 15 Km/L in Highway.


I have completely stopped taking out in City and use my motor cycle which gives a decent mileage. I am now traveling through train to my native once in a month, which I used to drive all the way which is 380 KM one-way. However I can not stop trips with family three or four times a year which is a boosting factor for us.

 

[ankathil.arjun]

In my case there is no way other than minimizing usage of my car which is a Petrol sedan and have a FE 10 Km/L in City and 15 Km/L in Highway.


I have completely stopped taking out in City and use my motor cycle which gives a decent mileage. I am now traveling through train to my native once in a month, which I used to drive all the way which is 380 KM one-way. However I can not stop trips with family three or four times a year which is a boosting factor for us.

Like you, I have also started avoiding taking my car on weekdays. I use my motorcycle 3 days a week and cycle for the other two. Car is used strictly on weekends when I go out with family or for long drives. Though this is not due to fuel costs but due to traffic congestion in my city. My bike being a thirsty petrol bike gives only minimal fuel benifits over my frugal diesel car.
I had planned to ride my cycle 3 days a week instead of two, however with the risk involved riding a bicycle in India, my family is trying to convince me to stick to 2 days a week and even reduce that on the cycle.
With no footpaths and very small part of my route being covered by the bus routes, I have no other options.

However, recently I have seen many in my office use KeepRide( a car pooling app). The payment is done by the other riders which is credit to the car owner via credit points which can be used at fuel stations.
In the last few months I have met quite a few people who use this app, and I think this is a good solution for those struggling with rising fuel prices. Not just does this help a little to share the fuel price, it also helps in reducing the congestion and stress on the road.

 

[Thangavel]

I will continue to use my bike for shorter distance and car for longer distance. We have no choice. Public transport is never on time and is so crowded especially when you have to carry fragile instruments that it is out of question. I also think gasoline should come under GST which will help lower the overall cost of petrol and diesel. Even LPG prices have gone through the roof so LPG commercial cars and autos too have been severely affected. It is puzzling that the Government has remained aloof and has not bothered to take measures to mitigate the effects even with elections looming.

 

[SilverEyez]

Isn’t the cost of ownership of an EV more or less the same when compared to fossil-fueled cars?
AFAIK the battery needs replacement after certain years (7-8 years) down the line and in no means it’s cheap. Keeping that in mind, EV seems to pollute less if charged by renewable sources. So, not much of a difference between the two.

Note: I can be wrong. Feel free to correct me.

The EV's are costlier than Petrol/Diesel Cars.
Huge price difference negate the benefit of cheaper cost of running.
Eg:
Mahindra Verito
There is a difference of almost 40% between a Diesel Verito and an Electric Verito.

 

[Sant0 z]

I will drive my car only on weekends ... and it will keep continuing, first weekly drives, fortnight drives, monthly drives, so on. We cannot survive without driving our mighty machines. :)

 

[harishankar]

Not much we can do. I stopped worrying about it, but will keep an eye on the cost per kilometer and see how it works out.

To give an idea of how mileage and fuel cost play a role in adding cost/km :-

From my self-developed fuel monitoring tool (Java based) I found that with my recently purchased KUV 100 NXT, with (so far) an average mileage of 13.27 km/l and (so far) average fuel cost of around Rs 83 per litre the cost/km is around Rs 7.5 per km. If the mileage improves I would get better cost/km.

With my celerio earlier, I got cost of around Rs. 4.22 per km with overall mileage of 16.95 km/litre and average fuel cost of Rs. 70.26 per litre.

Difference in cost comes to around Rs. 3.2/- per km with overall average fuel cost difference of around Rs. 13/- per litre and mileage difference of around 3.5 km/litre.


Improving mileage will definitely narrow down difference in the cost of running.