How Fast Have You Gone On Your Ride??

[cooldhaya]

Thank you Navtej but those were early days of acquiring my car and my early days of driving where i never used to drive below 100kmph in the highways. Even i have raced with a few cars like Swift , Scorpio , Innova , Punto , City , Laura etc etc But these days i don't drive fast , maximum 120-130kmph if the road ahead is empty and clear , mostly cruising around 90-100kmph these days. IMO the best speed in our Indian roads , you can enjoy a bit of relaxed driving listening to your favorite music.


But still i do race sometimes , very very rare though. Recently smoked out a City! Till 120kmph we were neck and neck but beyond that City loses its breath slowly and when i crossed 150kmph that City guy gave up! And hey let's not forget mine is a diesel and City is petrol!

 

[truecitylover]

Thank you Navtej but those were early days of acquiring my car and my early days of driving where i never used to drive below 100kmph in the highways. Even i have raced with a few cars like Swift , Scorpio , Innova , Punto , City , Laura etc etc But these days i don't drive fast , maximum 120-130kmph if the road ahead is empty and clear , mostly cruising around 90-100kmph these days. IMO the best speed in our Indian roads , you can enjoy a bit of relaxed driving listening to your favorite music.


But still i do race sometimes , very very rare though. Recently smoked out a City! Till 120kmph we were neck and neck but beyond that City loses its breath slowly and when i crossed 150kmph that City guy gave up! And hey let's not forget mine is a diesel and City is petrol!

City huffled with a Verna Diesel?

 

[recycle-art]

City huffled with a Verna Diesel?

My feelings too. And even the story should have been the other way around, the city would have been far ahead of him from the start, if possible he MIGHT have caught up with it later... when the city is stuck behind traffic.

Cool story bro.

 

[verna]

120 kmph in my Swift Petrol, 140 kmph in my Scorpio, 120 kmph in my Verna CRDi, 150 kmph in a Cruze, 120 kmph in an Optra, 100 kmph in a BMW 320d highline, 140 kmph + in a Merc C 220 CDI Elegance, 100 kmph + in a Captiva , 100 kmph + in a Civic....

The first three vehicles I own, the rest are all friend's vehicles

 

[truecitylover]

My feelings too. And even the story should have been the other way around, the city would have been far ahead of him from the start, if possible he MIGHT have caught up with it later... when the city is stuck behind traffic.

Cool story bro.

May be. Or the city driver may have been over stressed to race.

120 kmph in my Swift Petrol, 140 kmph in my Scorpio, 120 kmph in my Verna CRDi, 150 kmph in a Cruze, 120 kmph in an Optra, 100 kmph in a BMW 320d highline, 140 kmph + in a Merc C 220 CDI Elegance, 100 kmph + in a Captiva , 100 kmph + in a Civic....

The first three vehicles I own, the rest are all friend's vehicles

Thats impressive buddy. Wish i too had friends owning BMW's & Merc's.

 

[verna]

@ truecitylover Wish I owned Bimmers,Mercs or Audis !! Wouldn't have to borrow my pals'...

 

[cooldhaya]

My feelings too. And even the story should have been the other way around, the city would have been far ahead of him from the start, if possible he MIGHT have caught up with it later... when the city is stuck behind traffic.

Cool story bro.

Huh your saying i am building my own story? Have you driven Verna CRDI? And FYI this was done in well laid four laned GST NH , no traffic as such. We started to go for the kill side by side when we were around 40kmph. City being a petrol initially gained momentum quickly but only just. After crossing 120kmph Verna CRDI takes over petrol City! Please drive a Verna CRDI before making such comments , not all diesels are sluggish.


Nagesh if you don't believe it , drive my Verna next time we meet.

 

[verna]

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Honda City :
Max. Power (PS/Rpm) 118 / 6600
Max. Torque (Nm/Rpm) 146 / 4800

Hyundai Verna CRDi :
Max. Power (PS/Rpm) 128 /4000
Max Torque (Kgm/Rpm) 26.5/1900-2750 ~ 265/1900-2750 Nm/Rpm (since 9.8Nm which is ~10Nm = 1 Kgm)

Pure logic is More the torque, greater the PUSH ! Hence, Verna CRDi wins there (atleast on pen and paper)...

And More the Horse Power (1BHP or PS/Pferdestärke the German Unit of measuring HP which is 0.98 BHP), more the speed... Here, Verna wins too...

In simpler words, torque is something that gets you moving and BHP(brake horse power is the max horse power which the engine delivers) is something which keeps you moving !!

Normal cars have configurations of either an average torque and a high BHP or a high torque and an average BHP... But, racing/sports cars have configurations of HIGH torque and HIGH BHP.... that is why they are priced high(other than their features,looks,safety which is the icing on the cake).

And,common cars with diesel engines these days generally have higher torques than gasoline run cars(India)

Hope it was good enough to explain you !

And sorry to say this , driven the City around loads (2nd and 3rd generation) indian version.... Its sluggish and it SUCKS !!

 

[AMG]

And City isnt the quickest car, either.

Infact I would stop just short of calling it slow.

 

[recycle-art]

Huh your saying i am building my own story? Have you driven Verna CRDI? And FYI this was done in well laid four laned GST NH , no traffic as such. We started to go for the kill side by side when we were around 40kmph. City being a petrol initially gained momentum quickly but only just. After crossing 120kmph Verna CRDI takes over petrol City! Please drive a Verna CRDI before making such comments , not all diesels are sluggish.


Nagesh if you don't believe it , drive my Verna next time we meet.

Yep, drove a verna CRDI. And my Dad used to own a Honda city ZX which I felt at that time the city was far more superior performance wise.
Even the non-vtec (DOHC) models civics go pretty hard, from personal experience. I never said all diesels are sluggish, but foot down perofrmance goes straight to petrol. I drive my Dad's 2.0 Turbo Diesel Skoda Superb now, a brilliant car at it minus the initial turbo lag. I;m sure the CRDI we are talking about here isn't turbo, so yeah, I still stand on my theory that it will be sluggish when compared with a Honda City. Maybe the city wasn't even trying to race you? he probably was just giving his car a go...? so many reasons why you might have passed him.

Not having a go at you or anything, but I honestly think it isn't possible. In the end nothing matters when you're an enthusiast, its not just about speed.

 

[recycle-art]

Hope it was good enough to explain you !

On paper yes, but IRL there are a lot more factors that come into play other than just the power figures. All the performance figures that you have quoted of the respective cars are the power the engine makes, even thought about how much power actually gets to the wheels? There is a fair chunk of power loss when it gets to the wheels because of the gears, not saying the verna has a useless gearbox, but the Honda Gear boxes are are definitely superior compared to Hyundais'. I'm sure every one on here that isn't biased towards a verna can testify that.

I do know what torque and power figures are, but thanks anyway for enlightening me. From what you said, with that much of torque at around the mid-range RPM, most of the power will be lost in wheel spin. How much even fun additional torque maybe, its not the only thing you want. From personal experience of driving Dad's car, every time it rains over here, I'm bound to see the "traction control" light on the dash when I'm taking off from the lights.

EDIT: Hyundai Verna CRDi Specification say it produces only a 110@4000 ?
http://www.cardekho.com/specs/Hyundai_Verna/Hyundai_Verna_CRDi-specification.htm

 

[cooldhaya]

Yep, drove a verna CRDI. And my Dad used to own a Honda city ZX which I felt at that time the city was far more superior performance wise.
Even the non-vtec (DOHC) models civics go pretty hard, from personal experience. I never said all diesels are sluggish, but foot down perofrmance goes straight to petrol. I drive my Dad's 2.0 Turbo Diesel Skoda Superb now, a brilliant car at it minus the initial turbo lag. I;m sure the CRDI we are talking about here isn't turbo, so yeah, I still stand on my theory that it will be sluggish when compared with a Honda City. Maybe the city wasn't even trying to race you? he probably was just giving his car a go...? so many reasons why you might have passed him.

Not having a go at you or anything, but I honestly think it isn't possible. In the end nothing matters when you're an enthusiast, its not just about speed.

To each his own , maybe you have not pushed Verna hard to its limits. Mind you my friend having a Verna CRDI pushed his car even upto a speedo indicated 200kmph! AFAIK no car under the 11Lakh bracket can give Verna CRDI any trouble , even the mighty petrol City which you say. Verna CRDI 0-100kmph can be done in 10.xx seconds and City can deliver the same performance too but its a Petrol! And so Verna though being a diesel can give the City a run for its money! City owners here i am ready for a drag race at an open ground anytime , prove to me City can beat Verna! Foot down furious acceleration Verna can beat any car inside the 11Lakh bracket. And hey Verna is a turbo-charged diesel FYI. Yes i love my car but that doesn't mean i am cooking up statements stating my car is the best , AFAIK i have never mentioned anywhere the cars i own are the best just that performance wise nothing can beat a Verna CRDI.


And maybe yes it depends on the drivers too. Maybe the City with whom i raced chickened out beyond 150kmph and got scared that he might lose!

 

[Swapnil]

Huh your saying i am building my own story? Have you driven Verna CRDI? And FYI this was done in well laid four laned GST NH , no traffic as such. We started to go for the kill side by side when we were around 40kmph. City being a petrol initially gained momentum quickly but only just. After crossing 120kmph Verna CRDI takes over petrol City! Please drive a Verna CRDI before making such comments , not all diesels are sluggish.


Nagesh if you don't believe it , drive my Verna next time we meet.

Totally agreed. Verna is a quick mover as I have driven it. Still accelerates beyond 120.

 

[cooldhaya]

Totally agreed. Verna is a quick mover as I have driven it. Still accelerates beyond 120.

Finally somebody who agrees with me! Not just beyond 120kmph , to be quite frank i have still not tested the point where the engine runs out of breath! I have gone upto 180kmph and still the car accelerated and looked to go more , i din't have the chance to go more than that. No wonder my friend was able to clock 200kmph!

 

[Saravana Prasad]

To each his own , maybe you have not pushed Verna hard to its limits. Mind you my friend having a Verna CRDI pushed his car even upto a speedo indicated 200kmph! AFAIK no car under the 11Lakh bracket can give Verna CRDI any trouble , even the mighty petrol City which you say. Verna CRDI 0-100kmph can be done in 10.xx seconds and City can deliver the same performance too but its a Petrol! And so Verna though being a diesel can give the City a run for its money! City owners here i am ready for a drag race at an open ground anytime , prove to me City can beat Verna! Foot down furious acceleration Verna can beat any car inside the 11Lakh bracket. And hey Verna is a turbo-charged diesel FYI. Yes i love my car but that doesn't mean i am cooking up statements stating my car is the best , AFAIK i have never mentioned anywhere the cars i own are the best just that performance wise nothing can beat a Verna CRDI.


And maybe yes it depends on the drivers too. Maybe the City with whom i raced chickened out beyond 150kmph and got scared that he might lose!

LOL i still cant believe nobody know's that VERNA is a killer machine compared to CITY!!

Of course CITY is a nice car. Its a petrol car which flies in the road till 120 smoothly but after 120kmph or 130kmph VERNA will fly pass it in no time. I have travelled in both the car's i have felt the power inside wen u push ur ride!! Without no doubt i Support VERNA

I have personally done 170kmph in my i20.