Experience With My Italian Ride - Fiat Punto 90HP
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Drive the fiat before making any comments.![[:)]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Smile.gif "Smile [:)]")
How many ages did it take you to cross 160 on Punto?![[roll]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Roll.gif "Roll Eyes [roll]")
For that matter, as I know almost all of the cars have speedo errors in +-5% range - normally it is kept on positive side (I guess it gives some safety buffer and more importantly better fuel efficiency readings). There may even be some motor act stating about this margin.
As per my experience of driving Ritz, Figo, Polo (all D), here is approx error I have seen on the cars where we did the tests (but please note these were at speeds around 120 km/h):
Ritz: +9%
Figo: +1%*
Polo: +5%
Also as I said earlier,
Punto: +3% (@ 147 Km/h)
* In Figo's case, there was a tyre upgrade done by the owner (don't remember exact kind).
As per my experience of driving Ritz, Figo, Polo (all D), here is approx error I have seen on the cars where we did the tests (but please note these were at speeds around 120 km/h):
Ritz: +9%
Figo: +1%*
Polo: +5%
Also as I said earlier,
Punto: +3% (@ 147 Km/h)
* In Figo's case, there was a tyre upgrade done by the owner (don't remember exact kind).
Honda,Suzuki and hyundai have worst of speedo errors.
@hemant
Are those percentages with stock setup of tyres ?? if so 9% error for Ritz, its a news to me![[surprise]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Surprise.gif "Surprise [surprise]")
Are those percentages with stock setup of tyres ?? if so 9% error for Ritz, its a news to me
I have some mytracks records. let me check them too for more observations.
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Even with those errors most of the cars in india can't do 180+ except fiats![[lol]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Laugh.gif "Laugh [lol]")
, so just chill guys.
, so just chill guys.Where did you get this data?
I don't have all the data of the test runs which I performed on many cars, but found a old log of a Polo 1.2 TDI (fully stock condition with stock tyres) which was created from OBD reader when we were trying to achieve some data at full engine load. During that run, the accelerator was kept floored in 4th gear, here is top speed data in 4th gear of that TDI, now see the difference between OBD and GPS speed:
Now this log shows the GPS speed was actually more compared to OBD speed
@Vivek - Do note that its top speed in the 4th gear, and Polo does much more in the 5th, maximum recorded by me was around 170 (real GPS).
I also tested the Punto, thats why I am saying about the too much speed difference. It was showing some 155-160 on the speedo but the car actually was doing around 143-148 on GPS. Unfortunately I the log wasn't recorded because the option wasn't enabled neither I could take any screenshot because I was alone in the car at the time of that run.
You guys have Punto, perform the tests and post the data, I don't have a Punto hence don't know when I get my hands on it next time
When you guys notice any member with low number of posts then don't assume that he is a newbie and doesn't know anything, its just that he is not 'Trolling' around![[thumbsup]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Thumbs%20Up.png "Thumbs Up [thumbsup]")
I don't have all the data of the test runs which I performed on many cars, but found a old log of a Polo 1.2 TDI (fully stock condition with stock tyres) which was created from OBD reader when we were trying to achieve some data at full engine load. During that run, the accelerator was kept floored in 4th gear, here is top speed data in 4th gear of that TDI, now see the difference between OBD and GPS speed:
Now this log shows the GPS speed was actually more compared to OBD speed
@Vivek - Do note that its top speed in the 4th gear, and Polo does much more in the 5th, maximum recorded by me was around 170 (real GPS).
How many ages did it take you to cross 160 on Punto?
You guys have Punto, perform the tests and post the data, I don't have a Punto hence don't know when I get my hands on it next time
When you guys notice any member with low number of posts then don't assume that he is a newbie and doesn't know anything, its just that he is not 'Trolling' around
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Ok buddy you win, i agree that polo is much more faster than punto. Now are you happy?
Polo will be doing more when at 170 in the speedo and punto'll be doing less than 170 when the speedo shows 180.
Polo will be doing more when at 170 in the speedo and punto'll be doing less than 170 when the speedo shows 180.
Where did you get this data?
I don't have all the data of the test runs which I performed on many cars, but found a old log of a Polo 1.2 TDI (fully stock condition with stock tyres) which was created from OBD reader when we were trying to achieve some data at full engine load. During that run, the accelerator was kept floored in 4th gear, here is top speed data in 4th gear of that TDI, now see the difference between OBD and GPS speed:
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Now this log shows the GPS speed was actually more compared to OBD speed
I don't have all the data of the test runs which I performed on many cars, but found a old log of a Polo 1.2 TDI (fully stock condition with stock tyres) which was created from OBD reader when we were trying to achieve some data at full engine load. During that run, the accelerator was kept floored in 4th gear, here is top speed data in 4th gear of that TDI, now see the difference between OBD and GPS speed:
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Now this log shows the GPS speed was actually more compared to OBD speed
On the -ve reading stuff, if true, this is not something for one to cheer about - in fact very dangerous on Polo's part. As I know, negative reading on speedo is against rule in some countries (as I said, don't know about India).
Another example of manufacturers being careless for Indians? No point in being a fanboy for the sake of it.
Ok buddy you win, i agree that polo is much more faster than punto. Now are you happy?
Polo will be doing more when at 170 in the speedo and punto'll be doing less than 170 when the speedo shows 180.
Polo will be doing more when at 170 in the speedo and punto'll be doing less than 170 when the speedo shows 180.
For that matter, this makes me think over my (very limited, I agree) experience so far - around 10K Km driven in Punto and only 2 times I have allowed a Polo to overtake me on highway - once, during run in period when I was keeping it below 3 K rpm, I think Polo went past me @140 Km and other time when I was pulling out for a stopover before Ratnagiri on NH17.
I know I am just being naive but thats where all this stuff headed after that wrong reading @180Km/h thingy so thought of adding to it :). Cause I remember a Honda Brio which kept close to me on Kolhapur Pune stretch and eventually overtook after crossing Khambatki tunnel - it all depends on driver + drive combo in the long run.
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In what?
Completely agree. speedo showing lower speeds sounds dangerous by any logic and no manufacturer would do that. Appears to be gps error.
My experience of 30k kms has never shown me a faster punto in spite of good Delhi roads with straight lines as well as curvy flyovers. Figo, i20 and recently a swift have been in tryst with my polo, but never a punto. I wonder why.
Completely agree. speedo showing lower speeds sounds dangerous by any logic and no manufacturer would do that. Appears to be gps error.
My experience of 30k kms has never shown me a faster punto in spite of good Delhi roads with straight lines as well as curvy flyovers. Figo, i20 and recently a swift have been in tryst with my polo, but never a punto. I wonder why.