Best Indian Car For Performance Mods?

[jeno_turbo]

@jeno, Can you explain something about garret turbo and its implications. what are the direct benefits of "garret"-means how much beneficial w.r.t cost ?
Pls do provide any link or contact of the same if you have.





I do understand some part of it,so my quest is on.

the hurdles are:- somebody should have enough confidence ,enough expertise and patience to carry out such nerving things.I am not enough rich to afford a DIY trial and error yet.
I don't see anything impossible as of now , with kind of technology in hand we can do anything that is my belief.That does not mean I will have to import a new bigger engine(1.6L) and call it a day(let's not be funny here) .

First, Garret turbos are after market turbos (like high performance parts by third party). And hybrid turbos have a motor which will initiate the turbo spool sooner (reduces turbo lag). Thus better performance. And garret turbos comes with a warranty(not sure about period or miles).

Technical: Fiat JTD Diesel 1.3 engines. - The FIAT Forum

And the above link says 1.9 130HP punto uses Garret turbo at its stock state. And 90HP should be using a VGT turbo i guess which is basically the difference between 75 and 90 hp punto.

But my personal advice would be, changing the turbo is not a good idea, because already your car has a good VGT turbo. If i were you, i would go for a remap/tuning box(not a resistor based one), slightly better injectors and a good filter. Which will give you enough for your daily driving. Expect 120HP from the above modifications.

Regards,
Jeno

 

[jayadev]

But my personal advice would be, changing the turbo is not a good idea, because already your car has a good VGT turbo. If i were you, i would go for a remap/tuning box(not a resistor based one), slightly better injectors and a good filter. Which will give you enough for your daily driving. Expect 120HP from the above modifications.

Regards,
Jeno

A bird in hand is worth than 2 in bush I say . I wish to jailbreak 100bhp cage somehow.120bhp is not bad either.

What about FFE for diesal ? ever heard of it anywhere in India ? Punto90 is the case here.

I have checked with Red rooster website and couple of uk sites as well ,all unanimously say Petrrrrollllll only sigh.

Ps: No tuning box for me, never!

 

[jeno_turbo]

A bird in hand is worth than 2 in bush I say . I wish to jailbreak 100bhp cage somehow.120bhp is not bad either.

What about FFE for diesal ? ever heard of it anywhere in India ? Punto90 is the case here.

I have checked with Red rooster website and couple of uk sites as well ,all unanimously say Petrrrrollllll only sigh.

Ps: No tuning box for me, never!

Looks like you had a bad experience with tuning box. . But there are some good tuning boxes which are tried and tested. And you say that you are never going to go for a tuning box again, why? your point of view?

Regards,
Jeno

 

[jayadev]

No I do not have hands on experiences with tuning boxes but I know the basics of how tuning boxes works. being fully from an electronic backgrounds I am very much familiar with Programming , micro controllers,cheat codes,bye-pass drives and their limitations (but i am not a programmer yet).

Something similar is overclocking a micro-processor in electronic world . they do not show the desirable stability of original codes becoming detrimental in long run.

As far as I have studied the way PNP tuning boxes operates my consciences will not let me use them in my car.

I wouldn't mind a replacement ECU instead of the stock one, but that is far fetched Idea and almost impossible to work out for small time enthusiast like me.

Remap and modifications only for me.

 

[codename47]

First of all the FWD to RWD conversion was my idea. Because both Octavia mk1 and Golf Mk4 belongs to same platform VAG PQ34. There is also a 4X4 Octavia available in some countries and all it takes is a HALDEX AWD kit. And im saying this knowing the fact that even FWD Octavia vrs has a transmission tunnel. Though facts are supportive, this is just my idea. Im not sure if someone had actually tried.

About the 500hp 1.8 turbo petrol Octavia mk1. IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. This is not a idea, its reality. Here goes the links.

The official website of peter, he is the one who did the job.
Pete's Automotive Products Pvt Limited

And i cant stop myself from saying this, your car should is an absolute killer ! Had you tried to find 0-100 of your car? And shed some more light on your works to your car.

Regards,
Jeno.

I believe that you got good understanding of turbo charging concept but however when you say conversion from FWD to AWD or RWD , its not that hard and at the same time not that easy . I've seen so many engine swaps , so many conversions .
Specially Scion tC from FWD to RWD (using Supra's differential )
not that stable though.


1.8 Litre engine you can take out even 1000 hp and here we are talking about how stable it is, don't foget its a four cylinder motor .

can you please send me the link of that car because thats just a website link
I really want to know that 500 horses octavia and at what rev range it produces it.


About my car , 0-100 is under 4.2 seconds and it clocks 180 in abt 8 seconds, top speed is not limited to 180 but its having no rev limited so its about 340+
need to change the Nismo dials ,dont have time these days.
Its not the only car I have atm

 

[Prads]

A bird in hand is worth than 2 in bush I say . I wish to jailbreak 100bhp cage somehow.120bhp is not bad either.

What about FFE for diesal ? ever heard of it anywhere in India ? Punto90 is the case here.

I have checked with Red rooster website and couple of uk sites as well ,all unanimously say Petrrrrollllll only sigh.

Ps: No tuning box for me, never!

Hmmm interesting thread,

& i dont think a FFE has any help to our diesel cars at low rpm or mid rpm,I have driven a crazy modded Sumo turbo once,it sounded amazing though.

See one must never forget the strong points in our diesel car that is the torque range,i hated Skoda Service but till date the Octavia diesel was one of the best engines i feel(I have mentioned in other threads also), but look at the Bhp it made not much,but look at its torque figure more so look at the torque curve it has a good constant torque that was the reason that car was thrilling for most,unless your using a diesel car which is going to spend at high rpm in any gear like on track ,i feel FFE is a no go,that is if you feel your exhaust is highly restricted(you will still need some back pressure though) due to emission norms then something can be tried.
A safe option is a re calibrated ecu from someone who really knows what they are doing(a tuff thing i tell you),but i heard there are some good guys in UK who can play with our Multijet & some other engines well.

As for the Petes tuning box -Well some pay money for it without knowing what a simple thing it does,there is a temp sensor in your engine air intake ,it just changes the reading from that air mass meter to make your engine run rich,fooling your engine to add more fuel sending it diff readings,(its like how many believe our car speedos are dead accurate),i guess there are many other offerings like this under diff names out there,but these engines really keep giving out dark smoke at any rpm almost,or atleast you get that strong smell when you follow a car with one installed,guess it points towards engine running rich.

And 500HP thingy was about Octavia 1.8 petrol not about the 1.3 MJD So never mind. PEACE !

And if i remember right 500bhp from 1.8 is really insane,especially from a 4 cylinder(since its not a drag strip car),but if i remember right the cylinders were bored on the Petes 500bhp Octy,it was bored out from 1.8 to 2.2/2.4(i think) cos i remember going in depth cos our friends group had alot of Skodas before ,remember checking this out sometime back in 2004 or so.

 

[dharmesh]

Voted for PUNTO, SWIFT, POLO and Lancer. Mostly I have seen Modded swifts and lancer in Mumbai. Yet to see modded Polo and Punto. :-)

 

[jayadev]

curve it has a good constant torque that was the reason that car was thrilling for most,unless your using a diesel car which is going to spend at high rpm in any gear like on track ,i feel FFE is a no go,that is if you feel your exhaust is highly restricted(you will still need some back pressure though) due to emission norms then something can be tried.

The required back pressure can be made availed using properly resonating the exhaust pipe. which means a win win situation.

As for the Petes tuning box -Well some pay money for it without knowing what a simple thing it does,there is a temp sensor in your engine air intake ,it just changes the reading from that air mass meter to make your engine run rich,fooling your engine to add more fuel sending it diff readings

there are lot of other aspects which these boxes ignore for fine running of a motor. it is for those ignorant people whom just need some quick dirty power boost nothing more.

 

[codename47]

The required back pressure can be made availed using properly resonating the exhaust pipe. which means a win win situation.




there are lot of other aspects which these boxes ignore for fine running of a motor. it is for those ignorant people whom just need some quick dirty power boost nothing more.

Agree on that
you will end up in having a burnt motor

 

[jayadev]

About my car , 0-100 is under 4.2 seconds and it clocks 180 in abt 8 seconds, top speed is not limited to 180 but its having no rev limited so its about 340+
need to change the Nismo dials ,dont have time these days.

Had a cardiac arrest..now recovering,incredible..!!

What do you do with such awesome power in hand-overtake dreams,chase away thoughts?

unless your using a diesel car which is going to spend at high rpm in any gear like on track ,i feel FFE is a no go,that is if you feel your exhaust is highly restricted(you will still need some back pressure though) due to emission norms then something can be tried.
A safe option is a re calibrated ecu from someone who really knows what they are doing(a tuff thing i tell you),but i heard there are some good guys in UK who can play with our Multijet & some other engines well.

I know it is not piece of cake, but in course of development.
but I am definitely struggling for a break..!!

 

[codename47]

Had a cardiac arrest..now recovering,incredible..!!

What do you do with such awesome power in hand-overtake dreams,chase away thoughts?



I know it is not piece of cake, but in course of development.
but I am definitely struggling for a break..!!

Haha
Jayadev don't worry bro am not a hoon ( rash driver in Australian Slang)

I know its really powerful car that am having at the moment. You will be suprised to know that I never got a speeding ticket and never got any fine.

I drive very sensible unless someone comes and start to make fool of others.
so far I've had so many street races and never lost any. I make sure that I handle this car pretty well. I never thrash my car,love her to bits.
Before this skyline i had another skyline and a TRD Chaser ( TRD - Toyota racing development) edition. The same one that was in Tokyo drift if you noticed

 

[jayadev]

Speeding ticket if you want one come over to India ,I had chance to see it twice while doing 74kmph ,82kmph(if you can call that high speed on N.H)

I drive very sensible unless someone comes and start to make fool of others.
so far I've had so many street races and never lost any. I make sure that I handle this car pretty well. I never thrash my car,love her to bits.
Before this skyline i had another skyline and a TRD Chaser ( TRD - Toyota racing development) edition. The same one that was in Tokyo drift if you noticed

Well that is what a petrol head is all about and he too earns lot of respects. One should feel his ride is also comfortable to give its best .cheers to you .

(Not some how borrow some power and smoke the street black by following what is written in black n white.)

 

[jeno_turbo]

Haha
Jayadev don't worry bro am not a hoon ( rash driver in Australian Slang)

I know its really powerful car that am having at the moment. You will be suprised to know that I never got a speeding ticket and never got any fine.

I drive very sensible unless someone comes and start to make fool of others.
so far I've had so many street races and never lost any. I make sure that I handle this car pretty well. I never thrash my car,love her to bits.
Before this skyline i had another skyline and a TRD Chaser ( TRD - Toyota racing development) edition. The same one that was in Tokyo drift if you noticed

Well, we are taking to an actual racer here. Thats very cool to know about your driving abilities. Do you already have a thread to elaborate the modifications you did to your car? If yes LINK, if no, please create one, it would be useful for many who wants to upgrade their cars.

And im very happy to see that the quality of our forum is increasing day-by-day.

Regards,
Jeno.

 

[jayadev]

And im very happy to see that the quality of our forum is increasing day-by-day.

Sure ,agreed.! (fuel for petrol head)

I am doing a small time my own research on skoda Octy.why most of the men say it is tuner friendly. (diesel is case)
some how I am in a state of believe that those pump-duse technology they are using is ancient one and well understood through ages.(i can be wrong)


But an advance engine like 1.3 multijet brings thrill of challenge/adventure doesn't it ? it so tiny weighing mere 147kg. one can literally put it in a travel bag and go for tour .

Right now it is like a mission impossible for me hoping for the best

 

[codename47]

@ Jayadev and Jeno Thanks alot :)

I have lots of performance mods on my cars
I can help you with that no worries. I am afraid some of these will be meaning less to most of the people here but if you ask me to do , I'd surely do.

Jayadev, bro come over to australia and I'll hand over you the keys of my car and you can do whatever you like .