Tyre Change of My Swift Dzire + Upgrade To Allloys - Suggestions Invited

[gears1313]

^^ looks cool, congratulations,

Thanks Amit! I think it will look more wider on Alloys!!

 

[∂נℓυν]

Thanks Amit! I think it will look more wider on Alloys!!

yes, alloys are really needed now, that's why i did not applaud much on the current looks, and you felt it

look out for some nice alloys, and then post pictures here after you have put them on your ride

 

[gears1313]

yes, alloys are really needed now, that's why i did not applaud much on the current looks, and you felt it

look out for some nice alloys, and then post pictures here after you have put them on your ride

Yup! Letz hope my dad agrees for alloys now after getting the tyres.
Actually we had already finalized the alloys and the tyres two weeks back but that guy did not had GIIIs in stock. He told to wait for some days. GIIIs actually have some shortage. Enquired almost whole main and big dealers here. So today my dad tried to source out these tyres form some other dealer.(He too managed to get single pieces from various shops!) So we got them fitted today itself, though the rates were high comparing to the previous guy; but we badly needed tyre change. So; got the tyres first and will see alloys later.

 

[cooldhaya]

Congratulations Gears , i like the tread pattern in Potenza GIII a lot! How is the car's handling now? Any differences? My Verna will also require a tyre change soon!

 

[gears1313]

Congratulations Gears , i like the tread pattern in Potenza GIII a lot! How is the car's handling now? Any differences? My Verna will also require a tyre change soon!

Congratulations Gears , i like the tread pattern in Potenza GIII a lot! How is the car's handling now? Any differences? My Verna will also require a tyre change soon!

No Idea bro! Actually the tyre shop was hardly a km away from our house.

Well today we had an off from our work so my dad just enquired with some friends in our locality; so someone suggested us to check this small shop in our area. Although we were not expecting to get those from him since we had already enquired with big shops and dealers here. But we were wrong! This guy had one peice in ready, he just made some phone calls and he managed to get the rest of the three from other different three dealers.
He just requested to wait till 2pm. We went around 2.15 to his shop on our bike to enquire; he told to bring the car as the tyres were already arranged and are on their way. So had lunch and took the car at sharp 3pm to him.

Nways will be driving tomorrow and will update you guys. Till now these have run only two kms!

 

[cooldhaya]

Oh okay! I want to know how these tyres perform especially in wet conditions.

 

[gears1313]

Oh okay! I want to know how these tyres perform especially in wet conditions.

Now how will i check it in wet conditions? You will have to wait for next monsoons!
Nways I think 'Jalex' might have the experience. Maybe he can help you here!

 

[Honda_Machine]

All those who fear upsizing their rims will reduce ride comfort, think again. Its the sidewall height or Profile of a tyre that helps to cushion bumps. Keep the same profile and u are good to go.
Eg:- vjroadies case..
165/80 r14- sidewall height= 80% of 165= 132mm
195/70 r15- sidewall height= 70% of 195= 136.5mm

So in actual, u are increasing the sidewall. and with this ratio ur ride wont be hampered at any cost.
15's look wayyyy cooler than 14's. just make sure the sidewall height remains same and ride will be same.

Speedo Error- To combat this, u have an option of keeping the overall rolling dia of the wheels intact when upsizing.

Stock- rim dia-14(355.6mm)
Sidewall- 132mm(x2)= 264mm
Total- 619.6mm

15"- Total- 619.6mm
rim dia-15(381mm)
sidewall- 239mm(x2)= 119.5mm
profile to be used- 195/65(126.75mm) Or 195/60(117.5)

16"- Total- 619.6mm
rim dia-16(406.4mm)
sidewall- 213.2mm(x2)= 106.6mm
profile to be used- 195/55(107.25mm) Or 195/50(97.5)
These combos will give u NIL or Negligible Speedo error. But ride quality will be decreased at the benefit of handling with low-pro tyres.

That's an amazing calculate.

In a stock 175/65/14 Honda City ZX Vtec, according to the above calculation the only upgrade out of

Stock Rim Dia = 14*25.4 = 355.6
Stock Sidewall = 113.75*2 = 227.5 (175, 65%=113.75)
Total Stock Measurement = 583.1

185/65/14
Rim Dia = 14*25.4 = 355.6
Sidewall = 120.25*2 = 240.5 (185, 65% = 120.25)
Total Measurement = 596.1

195/60/14
Rim Dia = 14*25.4 = 355.6
Sidewall = 117*2 = 234 (195, 60% = 117.00)
Total Measurement = 589.6

195/65/14
Rim Dia = 14*25.4 = 355.6
Sidewall = 126.75*2 = 253.5 (195, 65% = 126.75)
Total Measurement = 609.1


So the nearest seems to be 195/60/14 and the second best is 185/65/14 rite ?

whats the best amongst
1. Yokomoha A drive
2. Yokomoha C drive
3. Potenza GIII ??

Highway and City Drive will be a 50%:50%, a combination of terrain and mountains driving. the upsizing should not effect the driving experience and should not increase the wear and tear of the vehicle - no compromise on dynamics :)

VFM !!!

Kind Regards,
Sudhan

 

[gears1313]

Congratulations Gears , i like the tread pattern in Potenza GIII a lot! How is the car's handling now? Any differences? My Verna will also require a tyre change soon!

Now how will i check it in wet conditions? You will have to wait for next monsoons!
Nways I think 'Jalex' might have the experience. Maybe he can help you here!

Hmm some updates:

Drove the car with these new shoes for around 75kms today! Believe me; these are simply awesom!

There is more confidence while driving on high speeds and overtaking; cornering; breaking.(may be because of wider tyres: 165 to 185)

Well regarding the noise; I feel the noise is good now. Till the speed of 60, the noice is low but above 80 the noise increases comparitively. All because these are sporty tyres. The noice is more on cement road. But any how loved the changed in my car.

Breaking has improved. Cant say its really because of GIIIs; since the section is also increased.

Cornering and overtaking on highspeed is comparitively good, confident and stable now.

Stearing is slight heavy; I feel!

In short; I am happy with these tyres. Since I am happy; Dad is happy too!! No more shakey drives and wobbling!!

 

[cooldhaya]

Hmmm nice to hear but i think these improvements are seen primarily because of the section increase.

 

[gears1313]

Hmmm nice to hear but i think these improvements are seen primarily because of the section increase.

Ya; I also think so. Thats why I have mensioned it!(165 to 185)

 

[Vjroadie]

Hey gears1313, Congratulations for your new baby shoes, good to see that you are happy with their overall performance.
Btw, I am still waiting to hear regarding Yokohama 195/65/R14 from my dealer and I just love them as these are the perfect set of tires for my upsize. Its just a matter of couple of days more and my baby too will shine wearing them!

 

[gears1313]

Hey gears1313, Congratulations for your new baby shoes, good to see that you are happy with their overall performance.
Btw, I am still waiting to hear regarding Yokohama 195/65/R14 from my dealer and I just love them as these are the perfect set of tires for my upsize. Its just a matter of couple of days more and my baby too will shine wearing them!

Thanks buddy! Actually I too wanted 195 section but they were available in 195/60/14 which i felt that 60 profile would be very low and would not suit our driving conditions.(bad roads!)
This was also one of the reason I dropped the plan of 195/60/15.

Nwayz you going for Alloys also?

 

[Vjroadie]

Thanks buddy! Actually I too wanted 195 section but they were available in 195/60/14 which i felt that 60 profile would be very low and would not suit our driving conditions.(bad roads!)
This was also one of the reason I dropped the plan of 195/60/15.

Nwayz you going for Alloys also?

185/70/r14 is the correct upsize mate. And yes, 195/60/14 is not the correct upsize for Dzire as it will reduce the GC significantly and that is why I found out 195/65/14 which has almost same rolling radii as that of 185/70/14 so there's no issues at all. Yes I have chosen a cool 5 spoke, black silver machined alloy wheel with a Outer Lip from Silverline. I feel in love with them at once when I saw them at a dealer in Belgaum. I don't have any pics at the moment but in any cases I will be getting them on Tuesday or Wednesday coming week depending on the availability of the tires. My tire dealer is running out of stock due to huge demand for these tire's. Hope he gets my set of 4 this week

 

[gears1313]

185/70/r14 is the correct upsize mate. And yes, 195/60/14 is not the correct upsize for Dzire as it will reduce the GC significantly and that is why I found out 195/65/14 which has almost same rolling radii as that of 185/70/14 so there's no issues at all. Yes I have chosen a cool 5 spoke, black silver machined alloy wheel with a Outer Lip from Silverline. I feel in love with them at once when I saw them at a dealer in Belgaum. I don't have any pics at the moment but in any cases I will be getting them on Tuesday or Wednesday coming week depending on the availability of the tires. My tire dealer is running out of stock due to huge demand for these tire's. Hope he gets my set of 4 this week

with you! I also fell in love at first site with these rims. These are 95% 'konig feather' replicas. The only difference is that the these had 9spokes. Actually these are mobile pics; but looks awesome in flesh.




The whole deal was done two weeks back including the alloys but the dealer failed to arrange the tyres. However we managed to get the tyres from some other shop. Will go with these alloys later.