Re: Suzuki's New Premium Hatchback Baleno Now Launched!
TSIVipul - Baleno's roof is sloping at the rear and Maruti has placed the rear bench lower than New Jazz to give more headroom.
Sorry sirji, that explanation is not good enough to explain the poor placed, padded and shaped rear seat. You have got a DZire back home and it is also a car with tight leg and headroom but isn't the seat well placed, padded and well shaped? Especially in the sub-4m DZire which we have now, older one had better legroom but newer one has better rear seat.
Though it gives more headroom, but not comparable to the Jazz. Placing the bench even lower would have made the rear claustrophobic for short rear passengers, so it is a compromise between comfort and space.
I call that design flaw!
Not giving enough thought while designing the vehicle. Honda and Hyundai have gone a different way and have finally obtained a better rear seat (Way better indeed) at slight cost of legroom (Well acceptable though). MSIL could have used slightly bigger seat base (Maybe an inch or so) and slight change in the seat design; be it seat base or backrest and they were done but they have decided to use scissor here.
Sense of legroom with a compromised seat![Laugh [lol] [lol]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Laugh.gif)
; now select one of the two - either have a better seat or have a lot of legroom.
But I still feel Maruti could have placed the seat bench a bit lower, added additional cushioning so that comfort would also be great (like legroom) and seat back would still fold flat. Jazz is *the* car for intelligent packaging and it was proved in the previous generation also.
Placing it even lower would have made people sit with knees pointing towards sky I guess. IMO they just needed to change the shape; the hip point is actually at the place where it should have been; they just could have used a bit more foam for under thigh support (Ala DZire) and that would have solved the problem. Legroom is already enough, with same seat height, no headroom issues and the under thigh support issue also would have got solved.
Regarding the flexing part, I felt the same while closing the doors, the doorpad sort of came closer when I applied pressure. Check if it is the case with Dzire also, my friend's Swift has the same problem but primarily around the armrest (on door). And, Dzire's backseat is the most comfortable seat (not considering legroom) one can have at that price, so thumbsup!
Flexing when pulled towards inside with the doors closed is there in nearly every car at least under 25 lac price bracket. Flexing of the doorpads when arm kept on door armrest (Which never happens in Baleno) or while windows operations (Ford Figo has it) etc are what point towards flimsy pad build. Rest slight flexing will be there in nearly every car when you pull the doors from inside where they are in shut position. Corolla has that, laura has that, Innova has that, Polo has that, i20 has that..ehh nearly every car has that.
C'mon guys, door pads are not supported with reinforced metal and have nothing to stop them from flexing when you pull them inwards, check on how they behave when you push them outwards; especially the part above and under the armrest.
No complains against Baleno in this aspect, I haven't found anything wrong with the doors and their pads. They are finished better than DZire, door armrests felt better placed, shaped and padded and button, handle etc placement is also brilliant.
And what problem did you exactly feel with the stock leather wheel? Was it slipping because of sweat (on your fingers) or something else?
If your hands sweat a lot then better get something to cover the leather steering cover else within an year of time you will have a really bad looking leather steering cover. I have this problem and the wheel cover of my Corolla started looking too much worn off within an year itself. Now I always have a small sized towel placed on my lap and the problem is solved for now. On my Polo I have the leather wrapped wheel and its just a 14 days old car but the wheel has now itself started showing the negligibly minor signs of slight wear because of sweaty hands. This is the stock wheel and I will be getting a high quality and super durable leather cover for it whenever I am free:

I pushed dzire panels, they are not going inside. Maybe zxi variant have good quality, stock yard people said like that.
-suryaputhra
The people at yard have tried to fool you saarji and you even agreed to what they said, hence proved: they have succeeded in fooling you.
Not push inside, pull towards you while sitting inside with door closed. It will flex. :P
Baleno' s door panels do flex a bit. Especially when you pull the door closed. Nothing out of the ordinary though
Please go through the jhol-jugaad written above.