This has been happening with brands since ages. The thing gonna happen is they would phase out the BS4 grade and switch older ones to BS6 grade. First gen came with 20W40, which they changed to 10W30 over time.
Honda Activa 125 (BS-6) Ownership Review: Flying Like a Bird Over Crowded Streets
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#92
What I think :
New scooter with older grade oil will harm.
Older scooter with newer grade oil won't harm.
So yes they might convert all the scooters on newer oil just for the sake of managing logistics easily .
New scooter with older grade oil will harm.
Older scooter with newer grade oil won't harm.
So yes they might convert all the scooters on newer oil just for the sake of managing logistics easily .
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So no harm experimenting ![[evil]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Evil.gif "Evil [evil]")
@mayankdixit sir ,
In yesterday's posts , pic2 - Its mentioned 800mL , and further pics it mentions 600mL . Although in Bill , there isn't any difference in pricing , is it typing error ?
What's the correct quantity (I normally give to ASS for servicing , only once I had given outside , after purchasing oil from ASS, I forgot the quantity).
In yesterday's posts , pic2 - Its mentioned 800mL , and further pics it mentions 600mL . Although in Bill , there isn't any difference in pricing , is it typing error ?
What's the correct quantity (I normally give to ASS for servicing , only once I had given outside , after purchasing oil from ASS, I forgot the quantity).
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#95
There is no confusion.Both the bills are not same but for different grades of oil, viz. 10W30 and 5W30 ,and are presented just to depict the pricing difference.
Both type of oils come in different packing too.
600 ml packing for new BS6. It takes in 600ml only.
800 ml for old scooters,which need 700 ml for service.
So you see,if you consider the actual amount of oil in the packing ,black one ends up more costly,as compared to golden one.
Both type of oils come in different packing too.
600 ml packing for new BS6. It takes in 600ml only.
800 ml for old scooters,which need 700 ml for service.
So you see,if you consider the actual amount of oil in the packing ,black one ends up more costly,as compared to golden one.
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I had used this gold one .
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Engine oil change in my Activa 123 BS6
Due to lockdown I could not drive my Activa much.Odo was nearing 900 kms. But I wanted to change the oil based on the time interval elapsed.Last oil change was done in 2019.Moreover I had doubts about the last service,regarding overfilling of engine oil. Therefore I bought the specified engine oil myself and went ahead with the drainage and change of oil.
My fears were confirmed when I measured the old oil drained from engine.It was indeed overfilled by the ASS in the last service.
Overfilled old oil 750 ml in place of 600 ml
Now the packing itself is of 600 ml,so lesser risk of overfilling
oil wire- mesh filter casing after cleaning
Due to lockdown I could not drive my Activa much.Odo was nearing 900 kms. But I wanted to change the oil based on the time interval elapsed.Last oil change was done in 2019.Moreover I had doubts about the last service,regarding overfilling of engine oil. Therefore I bought the specified engine oil myself and went ahead with the drainage and change of oil.
My fears were confirmed when I measured the old oil drained from engine.It was indeed overfilled by the ASS in the last service.
Overfilled old oil 750 ml in place of 600 ml
Now the packing itself is of 600 ml,so lesser risk of overfilling
oil wire- mesh filter casing after cleaning
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#98
The mesh filter had dirt and metal particles which I cleaned with a cloth. Be careful with this filter while cleaning as it is a delicate wire mesh sort of thing.
This was the moment of truth .Exactly 600ml. This proved marks on the jar are accurate.
This measuring mug/jar was very handy during oil change.Initially I thought that marks on the jar were wrong with error etc because I could not believe that honda ASS overfilled oil last time by 150 ml.
Honda has provided the oil mesh filter location at a very difficult to reach place,below the silencer.The location is totally changed from the previous place on the left side of scooter,to the new location on the right side. Silencer prevents the application of sockets and wrench and such opening tools because there is no gap to put them on the hexagonal head.Very difficult job for anyone.
Similar to the difficult reach and opening, the cleaning process is tricky too,as the fingers don't reach this area because silencer pipe comes in the way! Even taking this pic was not easy.
This was the moment of truth .Exactly 600ml. This proved marks on the jar are accurate.
This measuring mug/jar was very handy during oil change.Initially I thought that marks on the jar were wrong with error etc because I could not believe that honda ASS overfilled oil last time by 150 ml.
Honda has provided the oil mesh filter location at a very difficult to reach place,below the silencer.The location is totally changed from the previous place on the left side of scooter,to the new location on the right side. Silencer prevents the application of sockets and wrench and such opening tools because there is no gap to put them on the hexagonal head.Very difficult job for anyone.
Similar to the difficult reach and opening, the cleaning process is tricky too,as the fingers don't reach this area because silencer pipe comes in the way! Even taking this pic was not easy.
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The Oil strainer costs within 10rs, I believe sir?
You could have replaced that too, although in service centres they usually wash and put back the same.
You could have replaced that too, although in service centres they usually wash and put back the same.
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#100
Oh! I never knew that. I thought it wasn't supposed to be changed, only cleaned. In the manual also nothing is written about changing the strainer at a particular interval.
No specific interval. Usually cleaned and reinstalled till damaged. (ASC even uses damaged ones ![[lol]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Laugh.gif "Laugh [lol]")
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#102
Due to lockdown,the scooter was stationary.Still a small milestone reached.
Air Filter was not changed in the service so far. Went ahead and changed it myself.
I noticed that there are lot of changes in the new BS6 scooter,as compared to the previous version.The whole frame,and bolt points ,and mounting points are changed.The look of the whole engine is changed.Its more smaller,more compact and not easily serviceable now. I am posting pics of the same.
Dirty air filter
Air filter box is different now
Look of the engine is totally changed now. I will have to understand what is what,and which thing is where!!
Previously I had thought that there is not much change is the new scooter and I will retrogradely install parts in my old scooter and improve that one too,basing my work on the new scooter template.But now I understand that its not possible.As I have already said there are lot of changes in the new BS6 scooter,as compared to the previous version.The whole frame,and bolt points ,and mounting points are changed.The look of the whole engine is changed.Its more smaller,more compact and not easily serviceable now.Even the air filter housing ,its intake design,its mounting points and the filter itself is totally changed!!
So I will leave it at that and will not think about doing any stupidity in the old scooter,and enjoy the new scooter for now.
Thanks for reading .
Air Filter was not changed in the service so far. Went ahead and changed it myself.
I noticed that there are lot of changes in the new BS6 scooter,as compared to the previous version.The whole frame,and bolt points ,and mounting points are changed.The look of the whole engine is changed.Its more smaller,more compact and not easily serviceable now. I am posting pics of the same.
Dirty air filter
Air filter box is different now
Look of the engine is totally changed now. I will have to understand what is what,and which thing is where!!
Previously I had thought that there is not much change is the new scooter and I will retrogradely install parts in my old scooter and improve that one too,basing my work on the new scooter template.But now I understand that its not possible.As I have already said there are lot of changes in the new BS6 scooter,as compared to the previous version.The whole frame,and bolt points ,and mounting points are changed.The look of the whole engine is changed.Its more smaller,more compact and not easily serviceable now.Even the air filter housing ,its intake design,its mounting points and the filter itself is totally changed!!
So I will leave it at that and will not think about doing any stupidity in the old scooter,and enjoy the new scooter for now.
Thanks for reading .
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1000km, and air filter accumulated this much dust, mine usually shows this level of dust during 3.5k-5k interval. Too much polluted area I think ![[cry]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Cry.gif "Cry [cry]")
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#104
1000km, and air filter accumulated this much dust, mine usually shows this level of dust during 3.5k-5k interval. Too much polluted area I think
Till then I will keep on changing the filters.
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#105
Recently the center-stand spring snapped all of a sudden while I was driving the scooter. Initially there was a bang noise below the scooter, followed by metallic sound of centre stand falling on the ground.It started rubbing the road making grating sound with sparks etc.It all happened within a span of 1-3 seconds.Since this spring breaking of its own while riding has happened to me 1st time ever,I initially thought I rode my tyres over some metallic rod or something and that has lodged in the rear wheel and is spinning with the rear wheel thus making loud sound.On getting down I could not make out what is causing the sound and I panicked little bit as the scooter was not moving backwards at all and on moving forwards clanky sound was coming. Later on only I realised that the spring has snapped making the scooter undrivable (with the failure of such a non vital part,which is not even related to engine or drivetrain or tyres even).
I went to Honda ASS.On enquiring further I came to know this problem has cropped up in many 125cc scooters from the BS6 lot,with the root cause been poor quality loose spring.It doesn't break,it just flies of due to looseness. They had already placed backorder and the part was not in stock.As a result I had to put the scooter in a corner,and drove the older scooter for few days,till the part arrived.
Pics of the OEM spring
Buying the spring was easy.Main problem was how to fit it because now Honda has made it thick and very-very tight,and it will definitely snap back to your face if at all it slips during stretching. I did not want to contact ASS just for this,because they will open a job card for even this small thing.
I used an ice pick to install it eventually by stretching it long enough to hang one end upon the spring holder protrusion on the underbody of the scooter.
I went to Honda ASS.On enquiring further I came to know this problem has cropped up in many 125cc scooters from the BS6 lot,with the root cause been poor quality loose spring.It doesn't break,it just flies of due to looseness. They had already placed backorder and the part was not in stock.As a result I had to put the scooter in a corner,and drove the older scooter for few days,till the part arrived.
Pics of the OEM spring
Buying the spring was easy.Main problem was how to fit it because now Honda has made it thick and very-very tight,and it will definitely snap back to your face if at all it slips during stretching. I did not want to contact ASS just for this,because they will open a job card for even this small thing.
I used an ice pick to install it eventually by stretching it long enough to hang one end upon the spring holder protrusion on the underbody of the scooter.
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