Ford Figo Aspire Launched in India (Coverage: Pg.21)

[veb1242]

As from the performance ,figo aspire has brought a good diesel engine.
But what about aspire Petrol engine performance? when compared with its rivals petrol engine , where does it stands?

we are planning to buy aspire (petrol) , but not much information was there for petrol engine performance.
Can some one please help on this.

 

[furious_driver]

Well, if this engine is what I drove in Figo petrol, then I must say it is not as good as i-VTEC or VVT/VTVT! I left the TSI for reason. No petrol engine this side of spectrum can match the 1.2L TSi! Not even the 1.5L i-VTEC!!!

 

[veb1242]

Well, if this engine is what I drove in Figo petrol, then I must say it is not as good as i-VTEC or VVT/VTVT! I left the TSI for reason. No petrol engine this side of spectrum can match the 1.2L TSi! Not even the 1.5L i-VTEC!!!

I think its the same engine but its tweaked to get more output.
Earlier figo had 71 PS @ 6250 RPM power and 102 NM @4000 RPM torque, while the aspire has 88 PS @ 6300rpm power and 112 NM @ 4000rpm torque.

So there should be improvement in performance, i guess?

 

[nishant5858]

Well, if this engine is what I drove in Figo petrol, then I must say it is not as good as i-VTEC or VVT/VTVT! I left the TSI for reason. No petrol engine this side of spectrum can match the 1.2L TSi! Not even the 1.5L i-VTEC!!!

The earlier Figo had 71 bhp engine and it was good at city drives, on highways it was clearly the most underpowered of the lot.

Regarding TSI, although it is a fantastic engine it shouldn't be compared to the iVTEC engine because the former is a Turbocharged while the Latter is Naturally Aspirated. So there is difference in them & so far these engines are best in their respective category.

 

[1989rs500]

The earlier Figo had 71 bhp engine and it was good at city drives, on highways it was clearly the most underpowered of the lot.

Regarding TSI, although it is a fantastic engine it shouldn't be compared to the iVTEC engine because the former is a Turbocharged while the Latter is Naturally Aspirated. So there is difference in them & so far these engines are best in their respective category.

Regarding TSI vs TiVCT from Ford there is no comparison TSi wins hands down, the competing engine of Ford against TSI is ecoboost ,and that would be one interesting comparison.
Also the best petrol engine among hatch backs goes to Hondas 1.2 I V tec, then the K series of Maruti,then the 1.2 l Nissan Hyundai Motor, then comes the Fords 1.2 TiVCT, so its clearly an engine made for easy Acces to Aspire and drive ability, the engine has torque down the revv range but hesitates to revv hard, its smooth and refined as well, in other words its a happy city motor not at all suited for highways, also the mileage of this 1.2 TiVCT is amazing, a test car at Harry Ford, showed average 13.6 kmpl, and the SA told its been running around city for around 2000 kms, and 90% of timr with AC as well.

 

[veb1242]

Regarding TSI vs TiVCT from Ford there is no comparison TSi wins hands down, the competing engine of Ford against TSI is ecoboost ,and that would be one interesting comparison.
Also the best petrol engine among hatch backs goes to Hondas 1.2 I V tec, then the K series of Maruti,then the 1.2 l Nissan Hyundai Motor, then comes the Fords 1.2 TiVCT, so its clearly an engine made for easy Acces to Aspire and drive ability, the engine has torque down the revv range but hesitates to revv hard, its smooth and refined as well, in other words its a happy city motor not at all suited for highways, also the mileage of this 1.2 TiVCT is amazing, a test car at Harry Ford, showed average 13.6 kmpl, and the SA told its been running around city for around 2000 kms, and 90% of timr with AC as well.

Thanks for your view.
But what do you think about TATA 1.2 Revetron, where does it stand?

 

[kasscon]

Thanks for your view.
But what do you think about TATA 1.2 Revetron, where does it stand?

In my opinion Revotron 1.2T is a better option than Ford's 1.2.

It got better performance and figures than others if you drive light footed. Three modes are pretty good. No as such issues/trouble reported by owners till date. And specially the price point it's coming in Zest it's the VFM best deal. Even you get loads of gadjets/equipments with pretty decent abs and ebd with corner stability function and bigger tyres on Zest.

 

[1989rs500]

Thanks for your view.
But what do you think about TATA 1.2 Revetron, where does it stand?

A turbo petrol is always better than an NA petrol engine and hence I too presume the Tata Motor will be better, more over the Tata 1.2 revotron makes 140 NM, while fords 1.2 makes just 114 NM, so its got more torque too,
The Aspires 1.2l is an engine just for those who wants all the features bells and whistles and ride/handling looks etc with a smaller price tag, and its a strictly city friendly motor and for those who spend like less than 6000 kms a year on a car this 1.2 Aspire is good

 

[Safe Driving 007]

Additional kerb weight is not always to an advantage, the bigger point is where the additional wright goes, in FWD cars usually weight distribution is 60% front and 40% rear, if a brand can make a FWD car have weigh 45-50% rear and 55-50% front its a huge advantage, still for FWD cars the weight must be up front in the bonnet zone to get maximum traction, like 52-55% front is always ideal,
Aspire has cut weight of doors,bonnet,boot, here bonnet is the part where they could have added bit more weight, doors and boot could be built stronger and could have been better but in a budget car its not a big concern, while in case of Zest they have superb built quality all around, better than Aspire,Xcent,Amaze,Dzire,etc
Some brands add weight to the sub frame so that the CG stays low and that makes the car more stable,VW ,Skoda does this, so that their cars are extremely stable at high speeds but the disadvantage is CG shifts more towards cars wheel A pillar position but lower, and this means more predictable handling but UNDERSTEER will be unavoidable,
Fiesta ST is a car that has currently known best weight distribution and power and handling in an optimised manner, its CG comes somewhere near its seat bottom helping it rotate on its front steering axis making it do that lift off over steer and mask understeer into corners,but while exiting a corner understeer is inevitable, even still Fiesta ST is one such gem of a machine, and it weighs just 1244 kgs, so my thinking is reducing weight is always good but never hamper structural stability and strength,Aspire and Zest seemed to have done that, more so in Zest. Aspire rear 3/4 section is really weak in strength, even doors are fine by Indian standards,but boot and lower portion of biit just stand by the strength of the C pillar of chassis and the frame on lower half, so its rear end is vulnerable,unlike Zest which felt a tad more solid, all these are somethimg that are extremely delicate and wont concern 99% of Indian buyer if it would have Dzire,Amaze,Xcent wouldnt have seen these sales figures.

Hi,
Good Write up, really informative
I would appreciate if you could clarify my doubt in regards to kerb weight of aspire, as you know aspire is having lesser kerb weight while comparing with TATA zest and bolt, according to you how safe is the structural build quality of ''Aspire'' as kerb weight has a lot to play in a cars safety in an unlike event of collission. mere air bag & ABS cant make it full proof safe cars without a good good built.

 

[1989rs500]

Hi,
Good Write up, really informative
I would appreciate if you could clarify my doubt in regards to kerb weight of aspire, as you know aspire is having lesser kerb weight while comparing with TATA zest and bolt, according to you how safe is the structural build quality of ''Aspire'' as kerb weight has a lot to play in a cars safety in an unlike event of collission. mere air bag & ABS cant make it full proof safe cars without a good good built.

Safety of the car is primarily from the Chassis, if the Chassis is strong and if its designed to retain its shape even when Force is applied there starts the safety Novelty.
Then comes the front crumble Zone, all modern cars have front crumble Zones,expensive cars have these in their rear as well like in cars of D segement and C+ segment like Fluence,Octavia,Jetta etc.
The crumble Zone can absorb the huge forces and distribute it into some other direction rarher than the drivers or passengers direction, crumble zones are usually located just on the back side of engines or between Steering coloumn and cooling ducts and AC components,
Then comes the extra weight from sheet metal,exterior body,and frame,
Then comes ABS,AIRBAGS,SEAT BELTS,
Then comes safery assist systems,


Regarding Figo Aspire the chassis is said to be made of 45% high strength Boron steel thats light weight and yet as strong or slightly stronger than regular steel,so Ford saved some weight there,
Then they saved weight in sheet metal. The doors usually in Ecosport,Fiesta,etc have dual layer of metal, while Aspire has just one layer, so in case of side impact its not as safe as Zest, but the B pillar which is a chassis extension will stay strong, so its still far from fatal,
Then other weight reduction is at the boot,its super light and hence cannot take much impact,since Aspires chassis is one thats of a hatch back the rear section could be its weakest point.
Since Aspires chassis is said to be the strongest I believe that it will stay as it is even after impact, the Aspires chassis is the old Fiestas chassis, ie current Figos, and this one and the VW POLO are the only cars that passed UN56 safety test in India without Airbags, thats the reason why I feel Aspire is as safe as Zest despite being light,the Zest too is well built and could be smart in safety,

 

[manish12345]

http:// https://youtu.be/9KpbN45iO_A

 

[Safe Driving 007]

Safety of the car is primarily from the Chassis, if the Chassis is strong and if its designed to retain its shape even when Force is applied there starts the safety Novelty.
Then comes the front crumble Zone, all modern cars have front crumble Zones,expensive cars have these in their rear as well like in cars of D segement and C+ segment like Fluence,Octavia,Jetta etc.
The crumble Zone can absorb the huge forces and distribute it into some other direction rarher than the drivers or passengers direction, crumble zones are usually located just on the back side of engines or between Steering coloumn and cooling ducts and AC components,
Then comes the extra weight from sheet metal,exterior body,and frame,
Then comes ABS,AIRBAGS,SEAT BELTS,
Then comes safery assist systems,


Regarding Figo Aspire the chassis is said to be made of 45% high strength Boron steel thats light weight and yet as strong or slightly stronger than regular steel,so Ford saved some weight there,
Then they saved weight in sheet metal. The doors usually in Ecosport,Fiesta,etc have dual layer of metal, while Aspire has just one layer, so in case of side impact its not as safe as Zest, but the B pillar which is a chassis extension will stay strong, so its still far from fatal,
Then other weight reduction is at the boot,its super light and hence cannot take much impact,since Aspires chassis is one thats of a hatch back the rear section could be its weakest point.
Since Aspires chassis is said to be the strongest I believe that it will stay as it is even after impact, the Aspires chassis is the old Fiestas chassis, ie current Figos, and this one and the VW POLO are the only cars that passed UN56 safety test in India without Airbags, thats the reason why I feel Aspire is as safe as Zest despite being light,the Zest too is well built and could be smart in safety,

Many thanks for your detailed explanation, well said and i really appreciate it.
So we can assume ''Aspire'' as strong ,
as you have mentioned about ''Boron Steel'' i had a quick look at the Ford India website, to my surprise they have only mentioned Fiesta & Eco sport which has used boron steel in India. As ford is regularly updating their website with news and events after the launch of aspire, we cant assume it as an omission form their part for not including ''Aspire'' under it. also no where i have found ford mentioning ''Aspire & Boron steel'' . curious to know from where you have received the information regarding the use of ''Boron steel for Aspire'' . one of my friend told me that the current figo hatch has strong built than aspire.

 

[1989rs500]

Many thanks for your detailed explanation, well said and i really appreciate it.
So we can assume ''Aspire'' as strong ,
as you have mentioned about ''Boron Steel'' i had a quick look at the Ford India website, to my surprise they have only mentioned Fiesta & Eco sport which has used boron steel in India. As ford is regularly updating their website with news and events after the launch of aspire, we cant assume it as an omission form their part for not including ''Aspire'' under it. also no where i have found ford mentioning ''Aspire & Boron steel'' . curious to know from where you have received the information regarding the use of ''Boron steel for Aspire'' . one of my friend told me that the current figo hatch has strong built than aspire.

The current gen Ecosport and Fiesta use Boron steel chassis as well as front mounts and frame, but in effect its just 22% ,in Aspire the chassis has 45% Boron steel, it was explained in Aspires introduction video when Ford Figo Aspire was launched by Ford India at Sanand plant.
The current Figo is well built, the Aspire is no way inferior to it,but certain parts like doors and boot feel extra flimsy compared to current Figos double layer steel doors,
The current Figo hatch dosent have Boron steel used anywhere in it,but its built tough, the new Aspire uses Boron steel thats lighter to attain that same level of stiffness,so that they can achieve less weight as well, even still I for too would have loved a bit more stronger doors and boot, neverthless, its still a good package considering its competition.

 

[Raaj]

Today I had a test drive of Aspire diesel. Sure, it's having great power and good dynamics. But, I too feel the build quality is not that inspiring like other ford cars have. They have given much priority to airbags and other gizmos but seems compromised on basic build quality.

 

[nishant5858]

Today I had a test drive of Aspire diesel. Sure, it's having great power and good dynamics. But, I too feel the build quality is not that inspiring like other ford cars have. They have given much priority to airbags and other gizmos but seems compromised on basic build quality.

It does drive great & handles well and is packed with features. So what it misses out on is Ford's Trademark Build to aid efficiency. So some compromises are made to each & every car but what the car should & must have is substance. It should be good in Performance, Dynamics.

The Aspire is a very good product, and i can see it doing good numbers, wish people get rid of the expensive maintenance thing of their mind.