DSLR Vs Mirrorless Camera Debate: I Bought Sony NEX-5R Mirrorless Camera
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Tough choices between Sensor Size and Zoom range, D.J.D.,
I second Edios's opinion about RX100; I had recommended it in my post #1. But, the cost of about Rs.35K+ is the only prob for RX100 (Mk-II). Others around Rs 30K are Canon PowerShot S120, Nikon Coolpix P330 & Coolpix P340. These are better suited for a semi-pro or a pro as a very good 2nd or 3rd Camers, that does not break their backs. These have 1" sensor with >3X zoom range. But while touring, you'd need more zoom. As a result, many of us decide a camera by its reach (zoom), buy one with plenty of reach for Rs.25K and regret later. That happened with me (my Fuji S2500HD). After the honeymoon period is over, the mobile phone's camera is used more :-) If you still want the zoom but can live with the 1/2.3" sensor, for Rs.25K then, check out the choices here The best recent super zooms at snapshot site.
Here's my best suggestion to you: around 4 to 5PM go to a multi-brand outlet like Chroma with your own memory card and take pictures using the camera choices you made. Go home and see which camera pictures make you happy. That will help you make the right choice for you. If you are not happy with the IQ, then you would need a 1" size sensor. If 1" sensor is not enough, then you are forced to expand your budget bit more towards Rs.35K to 40K and settle for a good DSLR or Mirrorless Camera. This is where pure delight is guaranteed. Mirrorless is discussed here and our own DSLR forum at http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/gadgets-more/1433-dslr-information-thread-21.html can help you with DSLR. Later on you can invest more in good Prime and Telephoto lenses.
To know about IQ from a prime lens, check out my photos taken with two low cost legacy primes in the links below:
Fun with Adapted Lenses (Image Thread) - Page 19 and Fun with Adapted Lenses (Image Thread) - Page 19. Also check out a beauty of a landscape photo taken by NEX6 & a cheap vivtar wide angle prime lens combo at Fun with Adapted Lenses (Image Thread) - Page 22. This pic is not taken by me, though.
PS: Yeah, this is how we hook guys![[evil]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Evil.gif "Evil [evil]")
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I second Edios's opinion about RX100; I had recommended it in my post #1. But, the cost of about Rs.35K+ is the only prob for RX100 (Mk-II). Others around Rs 30K are Canon PowerShot S120, Nikon Coolpix P330 & Coolpix P340. These are better suited for a semi-pro or a pro as a very good 2nd or 3rd Camers, that does not break their backs. These have 1" sensor with >3X zoom range. But while touring, you'd need more zoom. As a result, many of us decide a camera by its reach (zoom), buy one with plenty of reach for Rs.25K and regret later. That happened with me (my Fuji S2500HD). After the honeymoon period is over, the mobile phone's camera is used more :-) If you still want the zoom but can live with the 1/2.3" sensor, for Rs.25K then, check out the choices here The best recent super zooms at snapshot site.
Here's my best suggestion to you: around 4 to 5PM go to a multi-brand outlet like Chroma with your own memory card and take pictures using the camera choices you made. Go home and see which camera pictures make you happy. That will help you make the right choice for you. If you are not happy with the IQ, then you would need a 1" size sensor. If 1" sensor is not enough, then you are forced to expand your budget bit more towards Rs.35K to 40K and settle for a good DSLR or Mirrorless Camera. This is where pure delight is guaranteed. Mirrorless is discussed here and our own DSLR forum at http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/gadgets-more/1433-dslr-information-thread-21.html can help you with DSLR. Later on you can invest more in good Prime and Telephoto lenses.
To know about IQ from a prime lens, check out my photos taken with two low cost legacy primes in the links below:
Fun with Adapted Lenses (Image Thread) - Page 19 and Fun with Adapted Lenses (Image Thread) - Page 19. Also check out a beauty of a landscape photo taken by NEX6 & a cheap vivtar wide angle prime lens combo at Fun with Adapted Lenses (Image Thread) - Page 22. This pic is not taken by me, though.
PS: Yeah, this is how we hook guys
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Hi vijay thanks for your reply. RX 100 is great camera. But problem is the limited zoom. But i wanted a camera with good zoom capability. So finally got the SONY HX 400V. I am just a amateur. Now i am just learning to shoot with my new camera ![[:)]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Smile.gif "Smile [:)]")
Today after office i was trying to capture some image in my home...
Today after office i was trying to capture some image in my home...
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#19
Nice choice DJD. Good early photos. You are no Amateur, but an enthusiast. Your choice of Camera says that. Put a Class 10 memory card with at least 45MB/s data rate and keep clicking. With superzooms, you tend to have shaky pics at the tele end. You can go thro' Highwayrangers tips on "dslr how make your photos stand out" to get more out of your prosumer Cam. Also do visit this site Digital Photography Tips and Tutorials - Digital Photography School too.
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#20
Use of CPL Filter
See how a CPL Filter helps reduce unwanted reflections. First is w/o CPL filter, and the 2nd is w/ CPL filter.
Both Pics taken with Canon FD 28mm F/3.5, aperture at 3.5 at 1/15sec hand held. Without CPL, the ISO is 100, but with CPL, ISO is 160 with every other thing being same.
See how a CPL Filter helps reduce unwanted reflections. First is w/o CPL filter, and the 2nd is w/ CPL filter.
Both Pics taken with Canon FD 28mm F/3.5, aperture at 3.5 at 1/15sec hand held. Without CPL, the ISO is 100, but with CPL, ISO is 160 with every other thing being same.
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#21
Bought a "Lowepro Format 140" Camera carry Bag
NEED:
A little while ago, I bought a Canon FD 35-105mm F/3.5mm manual focus Zoom Lens from the bay for USD 111/-. This is a Gem of a constant aperture lens, weighing at 600g of metal and glass, two touch zoom and focusing, a dedicated Macro setting, an aperture ring and with 72mm filter thread. The front element is HUGE. When mounted on the NEX 5R, it reminds me of my Dad's old Yashica FX3. This Lens, the FD-NEX Adapter and the NEX-5R combo measures about 162mm, end-to-end. I'll post some photos soon. The Combo was lying loose inside any bag, which is strictly a no-no and necessitated a new carry bag.
Functionality:
The bag of choice is a Lowepro Format 140 Bag, bought for Rs.845/- from the Kart. This is quite a compact bag measuring just 190mm (W) x 130mm (D) x 220mm(H) on the outside and looks pretty small when slung over the shoulder. The inside storage dimensions are 160mm (W) x 90mm (D) x 165 mm(H). You won't believe what ALL this little bag can accommodate on the inside ! See the list below:
1. My Sony NEX 5R,
2. the Canon FD 35-105mm F/3.5 Lens (with NEX-FD Adapter, 72mm UV Filter and Lens Cap) mounted on the Camera.
3. The Canon FD 50mm F/1.4 Lens (with FD-NEX Adapter, 55mm UV Filter and Cap),
4. The native E-Mount 16-50mm Lens (with its pouch)
5. The native Flash Light and
6. A mobile Phone charger (that can charge the NEX Battery).
On the outside pockets/pouches, the following are stored:
7 & 8. A smallish Tripod (costing Rs.300/-) and A Lens cleaner Pen (side pouch)
9 & 10. A Spare Battery and a Spare SD Card (inside the zip packet below the top handle),
11. Some papers and then
12. One side pouch and the rear pouch are still empty.
Above packed bag looks like the lunch bag of a School child. It weighs in only at around 2kg ! Somehow the weight seems to be distributed evenly, when slung over the shoulder and to the back. JUST 2kg for an APS-C camera with THREE lenses !! Tthe bag can easily be brought up front, zipped open in a flash and the Camera pulled out and is ready in a jiffy to tango. This bag can sit somewhere inside the car.
Build:
This Format 140 Bag has two softly padded position adjustable separators (with Velcro strips) and an adjustable shoulder strap. I've removed one of the separators. I don't think I'll ever use the netted pouch (inside the bag, underneath the top). Bag has very good padding all around, though I would like to have 2-3mm more padding at the bottom. The Bag appears to be very genuine as it has very good material and finish, Lowepro TAG, labels etc. Inside the bag there's a label that says "Made in China" :-)
Recommendation:
If you own a DSLR or a Mirrorless ILC Camera, and if you are looking for a Carry Bag to carry the "Cam+1 Zoom Lens" (for DSLR) or "Cam+3 Lenses" (for a mirrorless), I would say this IS the carry bag. This was available at over Rs.1200/- some 10 days back on the Kart. They keep varying the price. For about a month, I waited for the price to come down and snatched it. You would find yourself using your DSLR camera more and more. now, I need to locate the correct wrist strap, so that I can get rid of the Sony provided shoulder strap from the NEX-5R :-)
One might also consider the "Lowepro Adventura 140" which is almost same size, but with an extra flap over the top to protect from rains. I did not like the idea of having to fiddle with an extra flap.
NEED:
A little while ago, I bought a Canon FD 35-105mm F/3.5mm manual focus Zoom Lens from the bay for USD 111/-. This is a Gem of a constant aperture lens, weighing at 600g of metal and glass, two touch zoom and focusing, a dedicated Macro setting, an aperture ring and with 72mm filter thread. The front element is HUGE. When mounted on the NEX 5R, it reminds me of my Dad's old Yashica FX3. This Lens, the FD-NEX Adapter and the NEX-5R combo measures about 162mm, end-to-end. I'll post some photos soon. The Combo was lying loose inside any bag, which is strictly a no-no and necessitated a new carry bag.
Functionality:
The bag of choice is a Lowepro Format 140 Bag, bought for Rs.845/- from the Kart. This is quite a compact bag measuring just 190mm (W) x 130mm (D) x 220mm(H) on the outside and looks pretty small when slung over the shoulder. The inside storage dimensions are 160mm (W) x 90mm (D) x 165 mm(H). You won't believe what ALL this little bag can accommodate on the inside ! See the list below:
1. My Sony NEX 5R,
2. the Canon FD 35-105mm F/3.5 Lens (with NEX-FD Adapter, 72mm UV Filter and Lens Cap) mounted on the Camera.
3. The Canon FD 50mm F/1.4 Lens (with FD-NEX Adapter, 55mm UV Filter and Cap),
4. The native E-Mount 16-50mm Lens (with its pouch)
5. The native Flash Light and
6. A mobile Phone charger (that can charge the NEX Battery).
On the outside pockets/pouches, the following are stored:
7 & 8. A smallish Tripod (costing Rs.300/-) and A Lens cleaner Pen (side pouch)
9 & 10. A Spare Battery and a Spare SD Card (inside the zip packet below the top handle),
11. Some papers and then
12. One side pouch and the rear pouch are still empty.
Above packed bag looks like the lunch bag of a School child. It weighs in only at around 2kg ! Somehow the weight seems to be distributed evenly, when slung over the shoulder and to the back. JUST 2kg for an APS-C camera with THREE lenses !! Tthe bag can easily be brought up front, zipped open in a flash and the Camera pulled out and is ready in a jiffy to tango. This bag can sit somewhere inside the car.
Build:
This Format 140 Bag has two softly padded position adjustable separators (with Velcro strips) and an adjustable shoulder strap. I've removed one of the separators. I don't think I'll ever use the netted pouch (inside the bag, underneath the top). Bag has very good padding all around, though I would like to have 2-3mm more padding at the bottom. The Bag appears to be very genuine as it has very good material and finish, Lowepro TAG, labels etc. Inside the bag there's a label that says "Made in China" :-)
Recommendation:
If you own a DSLR or a Mirrorless ILC Camera, and if you are looking for a Carry Bag to carry the "Cam+1 Zoom Lens" (for DSLR) or "Cam+3 Lenses" (for a mirrorless), I would say this IS the carry bag. This was available at over Rs.1200/- some 10 days back on the Kart. They keep varying the price. For about a month, I waited for the price to come down and snatched it. You would find yourself using your DSLR camera more and more. now, I need to locate the correct wrist strap, so that I can get rid of the Sony provided shoulder strap from the NEX-5R :-)
One might also consider the "Lowepro Adventura 140" which is almost same size, but with an extra flap over the top to protect from rains. I did not like the idea of having to fiddle with an extra flap.
A very informative thread. Really thank you for sharing these information and knowledge.
I have some basic query. As usual I am now also a P & S camera user who want to upgrade to the camera. Currently I am the user of sony Cybershot camera. Earlier I was also planing for DSLR camera but after seeing the size and weight I eventually zeroed on mirror-less camera.After a lot of analysis and review I finally selected Sony Alpha A-6000. So far not seen the camera physically at any store. As per the store they are not keeping any copy of that since, it is order to purchase. Just have to go with the online review only.
Could you please suggest me whether, it is good buy to got for.I am seeing a lot of positive review about the same on the online market.
I have some basic query. As usual I am now also a P & S camera user who want to upgrade to the camera. Currently I am the user of sony Cybershot camera. Earlier I was also planing for DSLR camera but after seeing the size and weight I eventually zeroed on mirror-less camera.After a lot of analysis and review I finally selected Sony Alpha A-6000. So far not seen the camera physically at any store. As per the store they are not keeping any copy of that since, it is order to purchase. Just have to go with the online review only.
Could you please suggest me whether, it is good buy to got for.I am seeing a lot of positive review about the same on the online market.
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#23
The A6000 is really fantastic Amit. Though you'd have already gone thro' reviews, better pay attention to the "Final Words" and "Conclusion" in the two links below (forget about Pros and Cons):
Sony a6000 Review: Digital Photography Review
Sony A6000 Review - Conclusion
Let me Scare you first: The Kit Lens will keep you happy, but, you'd grow out of it within one year. With A6000's phenomenal AF speed, it is wise to go with Native Lenses than with Legacy Manual Focus Lenses (as I'm doing; unless you have a serious crush for these Legacy Lenses). You will have to (![[lol]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Laugh.gif "Laugh [lol]")
) add a Prime Lens (Sony SEL50F18 @ Rs.20K) and a Short-to-Medium Zoom Lens (SELP18105G priced @ Rs.40K). Then you may think of the Sigma 19mm Lens too (Rs.12-15K) ! Yes, E-mount lenses are priced a bit North when compared to comparable Lenses from Nikon / Canon / Fuji / OM etc, just because the Camera Body is Compact. So be aware of this future expenditure. I'm in a crazy mood and I'll add this too; when ladies spend money wisely on Jewellery, we end up spending it on these :-)
Hold-on hold-on; Don't worry too much: I felt you should be aware of these future expenditures. PLEASE remember, expenditures on Lenses happen, irrespective of the Brand, be it a Nikon or Canon or OM or Fuji; as long as you love photography. Once you acquire lenses, you'd spend more on a Faster Lens too. A Flagship mobile phone is replaced next year by another Flagship, isn't it ? Its like that. BTW, I have two 28mm Lenses, one 50mm Lens, one 100mm Lens that was never delivered by DHL, Two 135mm Lenses, one 80-200mm Zoom, One 35-105mm Classic Zoom Lens (apart from the Kit Lens). Together they cost me about Rs.37K; all these are 25-40 years old legacy manual focus lenses. Rotation of money HAS to happen, man, it has to happen.
Reality Check: Go ahead, Place order online for the A6000. You'd feel happier with a spare Battery and a Charger. Mine came from Honk Kong, thro' the Bay. Sellers on the Indian site were charging triple for the same. Also, get a 16 or 32GB Class 10 UHS-I SD Card. Other accessories can come later. You'll know what motivates ladies to do shopping. Ha Ha Ha. Ho Ho Ho.
Sony a6000 Review: Digital Photography Review
Sony A6000 Review - Conclusion
Let me Scare you first: The Kit Lens will keep you happy, but, you'd grow out of it within one year. With A6000's phenomenal AF speed, it is wise to go with Native Lenses than with Legacy Manual Focus Lenses (as I'm doing; unless you have a serious crush for these Legacy Lenses). You will have to (
) add a Prime Lens (Sony SEL50F18 @ Rs.20K) and a Short-to-Medium Zoom Lens (SELP18105G priced @ Rs.40K). Then you may think of the Sigma 19mm Lens too (Rs.12-15K) ! Yes, E-mount lenses are priced a bit North when compared to comparable Lenses from Nikon / Canon / Fuji / OM etc, just because the Camera Body is Compact. So be aware of this future expenditure. I'm in a crazy mood and I'll add this too; when ladies spend money wisely on Jewellery, we end up spending it on these :-) Hold-on hold-on; Don't worry too much: I felt you should be aware of these future expenditures. PLEASE remember, expenditures on Lenses happen, irrespective of the Brand, be it a Nikon or Canon or OM or Fuji; as long as you love photography. Once you acquire lenses, you'd spend more on a Faster Lens too. A Flagship mobile phone is replaced next year by another Flagship, isn't it ? Its like that. BTW, I have two 28mm Lenses, one 50mm Lens, one 100mm Lens that was never delivered by DHL, Two 135mm Lenses, one 80-200mm Zoom, One 35-105mm Classic Zoom Lens (apart from the Kit Lens). Together they cost me about Rs.37K; all these are 25-40 years old legacy manual focus lenses. Rotation of money HAS to happen, man, it has to happen.
Reality Check: Go ahead, Place order online for the A6000. You'd feel happier with a spare Battery and a Charger. Mine came from Honk Kong, thro' the Bay. Sellers on the Indian site were charging triple for the same. Also, get a 16 or 32GB Class 10 UHS-I SD Card. Other accessories can come later. You'll know what motivates ladies to do shopping. Ha Ha Ha. Ho Ho Ho.
Thanks buddy for the suggestion and quick points to consider.
Looks like the lens stuff can be doable slowly over the years and also I feel it depend on the passion over the photography. If somebody got good hands on that, then the lens inclusion to the bag will increase.
BTW, I am planing to get it from US as a relative is coming during Dec/Jan.Hoping to get a good deal during that time.
Looks like the lens stuff can be doable slowly over the years and also I feel it depend on the passion over the photography. If somebody got good hands on that, then the lens inclusion to the bag will increase.
BTW, I am planing to get it from US as a relative is coming during Dec/Jan.Hoping to get a good deal during that time.
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#25
Black Friday (4th Thursday of November every year) sales are quite crazy in the US. You might get some wonderful deals on the Camera Body as well as on (the Sigma 19mm & the Sony's 18-105mm) Lenses. Good luck and happy clicking soon.
How are going to kill time, waiting for the stuff to arrive ?
How are going to kill time, waiting for the stuff to arrive ?yeah he was mentioning the same about Black Friday.
You are talking about how I am killing time![[cry]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Cry.gif "Cry [cry]")
, I have postponed my vacation plan for this also.
But mostly killing time reading about this Camera online and here and there and some comparison etc.
You are talking about how I am killing time
, I have postponed my vacation plan for this also.But mostly killing time reading about this Camera online and here and there and some comparison etc.
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#27
Kit Lens Vs Manual Focus Prime lens
Sony's E mount 16-50mm F/3.5-5.6 PZ Lens that came as Kit in my NEX-5R today takes on the vintage Canon FD 28mm F/3.5 Chrome tipped Prime Lens. This wide angle lens, made for the full frame Canon SLR Cameras (with FD mount way back) becomes a 42mm Standard Lens on a APS-C sensor with 1.5X Crop factor. By far, this is my most preferred of lenses. I wanted to compare the performance in low light and this was the overall lighting conditions on a gloomy overcast day in Dec in Bengaluru with half the window drapes pulled back.
The above was shot with my Asus ZF5 (it does some heavy processing in low light loosing some details in wide angle shots). You could see the camera mounted on the Tripod and kept in front of the TV Stand. I've kept white A4 sheets to pep up the background. The lens was probably 2 feet away from the dancing girl figurine, which was the focused object. Due to lack of light, using the Canon, it was difficult to get focus peaking (simmering lights on Camera LCD as confirmation on focus). Managed to get a few blips on the crown. Camera focused in a jiffy using the Kit Lens though. Except Croping and Resizing, NO other Post Processing done. The main test shots are below:
The above is using Asus ZF5 (Flash came on, I don't know how to turn it off).
The above is the result with Sony Kit Lens at 28mm; F/4.5; ISO 100; 0.5sec.
The above is the result with The Canon 28mm Lens at F/3.5; ISO 100; 0.62sec. I don't know why the Cam should choose to keep longer shutter speed, inspite of getting more light from the 3.5 aperture.
In Pattern Metering and Camera set to Manual Mode, I got to adjust only the Exposure Bias (to make it zero) and shutter speed is chosen by camera. The Canon Lens results in brighter Pics due to the 20% longer exposure time. Bokeh also is better compared to the Sony. Let us see crops from the Pictures. The first is from Sony and 2nd is from Canon FD.
When I put the pen (for comparison), I could have disturbed the parrot figurine.
Focus was on the Crown (with Canon) and on the face with the Kit. Just touch the screen and focusing is done![[clap]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Clap.gif "Clap [clap]")
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The brighter Prime Lens brings out bit more details and result looks more pleasing.
The purple and Dark Green bird figurines are separated by about 55-65mm only. You can compare the Bokeh between the lenses.
The choco brown colour thing you see is the MDF board the TV stand is made of. NOTE: Only in these above two Pics, "Auto levelling" was done to bring the dark colour to life.
The Pic below is a crop from Asus ZF5. Look at the Colors produced by the mobile Cam's tiny Sensor . Though it has hell lot of noise, when seen by the side of a Pic from a APS-C Mirrorless, one can understand how much the signal processing technology has improved over the years.
Conclusions: The modern Era Kit lens (sold for Rs.15K separately) does admirably well when it comes to Resolution, Micro-contrast and Colour Reproduction. It looses out to the Prime (expectedly) in the Sharpness and Bokeh Dept. One can expect decent performance from it. DON'T expect MIRACLES from Kit Lenses ALL the Times. AND, do NOT go to Pixel level with smaller sensors and even with bigger sensors when the light is low. See the 2nd Pic (from ZF5) in this post? Stop at THAT size or a little bigger when viewing on monitor.
Sony's E mount 16-50mm F/3.5-5.6 PZ Lens that came as Kit in my NEX-5R today takes on the vintage Canon FD 28mm F/3.5 Chrome tipped Prime Lens. This wide angle lens, made for the full frame Canon SLR Cameras (with FD mount way back) becomes a 42mm Standard Lens on a APS-C sensor with 1.5X Crop factor. By far, this is my most preferred of lenses. I wanted to compare the performance in low light and this was the overall lighting conditions on a gloomy overcast day in Dec in Bengaluru with half the window drapes pulled back.
The above was shot with my Asus ZF5 (it does some heavy processing in low light loosing some details in wide angle shots). You could see the camera mounted on the Tripod and kept in front of the TV Stand. I've kept white A4 sheets to pep up the background. The lens was probably 2 feet away from the dancing girl figurine, which was the focused object. Due to lack of light, using the Canon, it was difficult to get focus peaking (simmering lights on Camera LCD as confirmation on focus). Managed to get a few blips on the crown. Camera focused in a jiffy using the Kit Lens though. Except Croping and Resizing, NO other Post Processing done. The main test shots are below:
The above is using Asus ZF5 (Flash came on, I don't know how to turn it off).
The above is the result with Sony Kit Lens at 28mm; F/4.5; ISO 100; 0.5sec.
The above is the result with The Canon 28mm Lens at F/3.5; ISO 100; 0.62sec. I don't know why the Cam should choose to keep longer shutter speed, inspite of getting more light from the 3.5 aperture.
In Pattern Metering and Camera set to Manual Mode, I got to adjust only the Exposure Bias (to make it zero) and shutter speed is chosen by camera. The Canon Lens results in brighter Pics due to the 20% longer exposure time. Bokeh also is better compared to the Sony. Let us see crops from the Pictures. The first is from Sony and 2nd is from Canon FD.
When I put the pen (for comparison), I could have disturbed the parrot figurine.
Focus was on the Crown (with Canon) and on the face with the Kit. Just touch the screen and focusing is done
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The brighter Prime Lens brings out bit more details and result looks more pleasing.
The purple and Dark Green bird figurines are separated by about 55-65mm only. You can compare the Bokeh between the lenses.
The choco brown colour thing you see is the MDF board the TV stand is made of. NOTE: Only in these above two Pics, "Auto levelling" was done to bring the dark colour to life.
The Pic below is a crop from Asus ZF5. Look at the Colors produced by the mobile Cam's tiny Sensor
. Though it has hell lot of noise, when seen by the side of a Pic from a APS-C Mirrorless, one can understand how much the signal processing technology has improved over the years.
Conclusions: The modern Era Kit lens (sold for Rs.15K separately) does admirably well when it comes to Resolution, Micro-contrast and Colour Reproduction. It looses out to the Prime (expectedly) in the Sharpness and Bokeh Dept. One can expect decent performance from it. DON'T expect MIRACLES from Kit Lenses ALL the Times. AND, do NOT go to Pixel level with smaller sensors and even with bigger sensors when the light is low. See the 2nd Pic (from ZF5) in this post? Stop at THAT size or a little bigger when viewing on monitor.
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#28
Low light sample from a 28mm wide angle Prime lens.
Taking photos for posting in DSLR thread, but felt THIS belongs here. The Shivling is small. The small but broken cylindrical stuff at the base of Shivling are ashes from agarbathi. There's one dry Chameli Flower too.
Before this shot, I had not noticed the patterns at the base of Shivling. There was one 11/14W CFL lamp overhead and a Diya on the ground.
I liked the details provided by the NEX and Lens combo. The APS-C Sensor in NEX is simply amazing.
Taking photos for posting in DSLR thread, but felt THIS belongs here. The Shivling is small. The small but broken cylindrical stuff at the base of Shivling are ashes from agarbathi. There's one dry Chameli Flower too.
Before this shot, I had not noticed the patterns at the base of Shivling. There was one 11/14W CFL lamp overhead and a Diya on the ground.
I liked the details provided by the NEX and Lens combo. The APS-C Sensor in NEX is simply amazing.
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#29
Long exposure Shot
The shot was taken last week near Mathikare, BLR. Used the OM Zuiko Auto-W 28mm F/2.8 lens. Kept the ISO at 100 and shutter speed at 5 seconds. This was shot thro' the wind-shield. The most amusing thing for me was that so many people remained motionless for 5 seconds. Just look at them near the eateries.
The above shot was also an attempt at focusing at Hyper Focal Distance. Meaning to keep objects acceptably sharp from near all the way to far (infinity). I did not succeed at it due to the low light, but got around to get what I wanted. In the crop below of the image near the yellow pillar (close to right middle edge), one can make out "Wash", "Drinking Water" and an arrow. That board was about 20m across the Road.
The cookies Advt board (crop below) was perhaps at 100m. Can you make out the choco chips in the cookies ?
These were OOC JPEGs (I'm lazy to fiddle around with the RAW Files). Almost ALL modern autofocus wide angle F/2.8 lenses that cost around Rs.20,000 will hunt in low light; more so for works like what I did above. This lens being a manual one, it was pretty easy to fix the lens at the desired range. Keeping it without shake for 5 seconds was the difficult part, as I did not carry the tiny Tripod with me. I've found this Zuiko to have an edge over my Canon FD 28mm F/3.5 Lens. Not bad for a 40 year old wide angle Prime.
To cheer up, lets have some bright Pics. The park Pic was also an attempted hyper focal one. The last one was with the Prime wide open. How are the Colors ?
The shot was taken last week near Mathikare, BLR. Used the OM Zuiko Auto-W 28mm F/2.8 lens. Kept the ISO at 100 and shutter speed at 5 seconds. This was shot thro' the wind-shield. The most amusing thing for me was that so many people remained motionless for 5 seconds. Just look at them near the eateries.
The above shot was also an attempt at focusing at Hyper Focal Distance. Meaning to keep objects acceptably sharp from near all the way to far (infinity). I did not succeed at it due to the low light, but got around to get what I wanted. In the crop below of the image near the yellow pillar (close to right middle edge), one can make out "Wash", "Drinking Water" and an arrow. That board was about 20m across the Road.
The cookies Advt board (crop below) was perhaps at 100m. Can you make out the choco chips in the cookies ?
These were OOC JPEGs (I'm lazy to fiddle around with the RAW Files). Almost ALL modern autofocus wide angle F/2.8 lenses that cost around Rs.20,000 will hunt in low light; more so for works like what I did above. This lens being a manual one, it was pretty easy to fix the lens at the desired range. Keeping it without shake for 5 seconds was the difficult part, as I did not carry the tiny Tripod with me. I've found this Zuiko to have an edge over my Canon FD 28mm F/3.5 Lens. Not bad for a 40 year old wide angle Prime.
To cheer up, lets have some bright Pics. The park Pic was also an attempted hyper focal one. The last one was with the Prime wide open. How are the Colors ?
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You couldn't have put it much better in your first post. I too went through the same options of buying my first DSLR and looked at Nikon and Canon. Realised DSLR is too big and accidentally found about CSC cameras. Was leaning towards the Panasonic Micro Four Third system when I began to find that its sensor is too small for low light photography and vibrant colour representation.
Long story short, just a couple of days back I bought the Sony A6000 with 16-50mm kit lens. Such an awesome piece of equipment! It has turned me, a total novice in photography to someone who's become deeply passionate! You have the sister model to the a6000 and at the given price point Sony NEX/alpha series are a great bang for the buck. Really impressed and waiting for reasons to get out to click! BTW, very nice clicks from yours! Have fun!
Here's one from my side:
Long story short, just a couple of days back I bought the Sony A6000 with 16-50mm kit lens. Such an awesome piece of equipment! It has turned me, a total novice in photography to someone who's become deeply passionate! You have the sister model to the a6000 and at the given price point Sony NEX/alpha series are a great bang for the buck. Really impressed and waiting for reasons to get out to click! BTW, very nice clicks from yours! Have fun!
Here's one from my side:
