Tata Storme vs Mahindra XUV5OO - Which One To Choose?

[Raja]

You seem to have missed this similar thread buddy.

And there are countless threads which get closed due to variety of reason and non agreement of views even this thread is closed check out

http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/member-s-lounge/14664-gandhijis-india-changing.html

And even this

http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/member-s-lounge/14771-safari-dicor-storme-owners-club.html

The storme test drive thread is on . This thread is on too . And xuv 201 thread is on too .

So people need to choose an XUV over a Storme because some fabricators based in Delhi can't fit sunroofs on Storme.

If you would have asked me I would have explained but you dint so ,
What meaning/ assumptions you try to take out of my post is your problem not mine .

Let me repost again .

There are many professional fabricators in Delhi who have installed a fantastic looking sunroof on many xuvs .
IMHO it looks cool . Iam attaching the pic below . Unfortunately there is no such option for the storme atleast from the fabricator whose info iam posting below .

Incase if someone wants this add on to be done the xuv has a advantage which the storme doesn't . Someone if fancy or wants such facility can also consider this advantage for the xuv while deciding between the two .

It's actually same style of thing which you posted which was this ->

@All

BTW, if I am in the market looking for a spacious SUV, Storme LX is up there at the Top, in the list. With the current discounts, it does seem to be a fantastic deal. I can live with that stupidly integrated HU and the rear side facing seats as I rarely use the last row in my Scorpio too. I guess, there is also a scope for getting those third row seats modified into front facing as posted earlier, outside the dealership by professionals.

Only thing is you guessed , I posted a pic of the sun roof being done as a option outside dealer ship by professionals . It's so simple .

P.S: That aftermarket sunroof job just looks ugly on the XUV. More over it could act as a potential threat to the overall structural rigidity of the vehicle and prone to rusting and thus leakage.

I have given the info on what is available in the market and also links were posted incase someone is interested can go and ask in detail about the process and then decide about themselves if they want such things or not .

The fabricator will explain in detail what his process is maybe .



And whether it's ugly that is your subjective feeling , others will decide if they like it or not .


And BTW you have quoted " TAI code of conduct " why one must read that before dealing with a,s,s of mahindra ? since I can't quote that part of your post iam attaching a screen shot .

Thanks for the info but would have helped many more, had it been found the right thread.
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/technical-zone/9439-tata-safari-storme-technical-issues-solutions.html

This information is equally important to be checked during PDI , and also for the prospective buyers for information purpose . On what current status is for the niggles .
I will also cross post on the link you have posted thanx .

 

[manojodungat]

@ all
There are many professional fabricators in Delhi who have installed a fantastic looking sunroof on many xuvs . IMHO it looks cool . Iam attaching the pic below . Unfortunately there is no such option for the storme atleast from the fabricator whose info iam posting below .

If you would have asked me I would have explained but you dint so ,
What meaning/ assumptions you try to take out of my post is your problem not mine .

Please read the title of the thread and then what you have posted under it.

EDIT: my opinion was only to reduce clutter for better readability to benefit all of us and the forum as a whole.
thanks.

I will also cross post on the link you have posted thanx .

Thanks.

 

[Raja]

Please read the title of the thread and then what you have posted under it.

EDIT: my opinion was only to reduce clutter for better readability to benefit all of us and the forum as a whole.
thanks.


Thanks.

I have posted perfectly, and dont think its clutter because options for after market assesories are also important points in buying desicion for many . What I have posted is a small advantage of xuv which has vareity of options compared to storme. You can take it as point to illustrate the advantage of xuv vs storme while chossing which to purchase among the two . Thanx

 

[vikyjoshi]

I have to comment on the correctness of this thread. This thread and multiple other threads on this thread helped me make my choice to go for my Storme.

I want to mention specifically mention about this thread as I was able to differentiate between XUV and Storme.


1. I could validate the niggles in storme and XUV.
2. difference between, xuv and storme.
3. i could identify that while storme was a no nonsense beast, xuv was a highly sophisticated vehicle with lots of gizmotronics.

According to me,
I prefered Storme as it has basic but a very very elegant interiors. Long term I am not so comfortable with the extra electronics of XUV.

I always wanted Storme and my better half liked the XUV. I wanted to be doubly sure that choice should not be the one which would cause grief in future.

my main concern was to validate the life of car after the warranty period ends. Cost of part replacements and life of parts.

 

[vikyjoshi]

I have posted perfectly, and dont think its clutter because options for after market assesories are also important points in buying desicion for many . What I have posted is a small advantage of xuv which has vareity of options compared to storme. You can take it as point to illustrate the advantage of xuv vs storme while chossing which to purchase among the two . Thanx

I second Raja on this point as during my search for going for a car, Aftermarket accessories, Service outside of ASS also mattered.

In the XUV, since the numbers are very high you get accessories like bullguards, exterior styling, decals and what-nots, very easily in the market. Where as for the storme things and options are limited.

However in my case, since my liking and priorities were different, though XUV ticked in this creteria, my final choice was Storme.

 

[Tornado]

The situation you have mentioned here is applicable for every car with front facing seats, isnt it?

What is the point in dragging the international Storme on this thread? By comparing it here with the Indian Storme and XUV are we going get opportunity to choose the international Storme over the cars in question on this thread?

Manoj is your "angel of common sense"

By 'common sense' I meant to say that buyer is not going to import the international storme just because he is hooked on storme but can't live without front facing third row.
Also possibility of nose - butt encounter while alighting is less likely occur in international storme storme by virtue of head room available as compared to XUV.
And as far as seat belts in third front facing row is concerned in XUV, the row is suitable only for kids and the kids are not supposed to use them.Use of seat belts is unsafe for kids. [/B

Tata should also provide AC vents for the 3rd row.

This reminded me of Amir Khan from bollywood movie Rangeela.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1ib88L8brh0&desktop_uri=/watch?v=1ib88L8brh0

AC vents near the body are not good for health. The cooling has to be gradual and sudden flow of cold air can lead to respiratory aliments and joint related problems in few vulnerable individuals. . Hence the roof mounted vents in storme are good enough to serve the gradual cooling effect.

as depicted in the posts earlier even an average built person (under 6 ft tall) wont fit in the side facing seats comfortably.

Same applies to XUV rear seat.

IMHO, both the XUV and the Storme has art leather seats. In this price, I guess none of the companies would offer genuine leather. Even my Civic has art leather seat covers.

The manza club class also comes with genuine leather seat covers. And I have confirmed it on storme vx too. Yet to confirm it on XUV w8.

Genuine leather is extremely soft

Softness has nothing to do with genuineness. Younger the animal, softer is the leather obtained from it . And older the animal, harder is the leather

 

[Superbad]

What is the point in dragging the international Storme on this thread? By comparing it here with the Indian Storme and XUV are we going get opportunity to choose the international Storme over the cars in question on this thread?

point noted. the intention was to make aware the safety aspect of the side facing seats.
European safety standards (which the indian authorities adopt in time) have banned side facing seats. hence the storme there was exhibited with the third row seating as front facing

By 'common sense' I meant to say that buyer is not going to import the international storme just because he is hooked on storme but can't live without front facing third row.
Also possibility of nose - butt encounter while alighting is less likely occur in international storme storme by virtue of head room available as compared to XUV.
And as far as seat belts in third front facing row is concerned in XUV, the row is suitable only for kids and the kids are not supposed to use them.Use of seat belts is unsafe for kids.

you raised the point of uncomfy third row of the XUV. tell us how the side facing storme seats are better.
also seats belts are unsafe for toddlers who have to strapped on the same seat belts using separate seats for kids. the seats for toddler are enclosed in attachment below.

This reminded me of Amir Khan from bollywood movie Rangeela.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1ib88L8brh0&desktop_uri=/watch?v=1ib88L8brh0

AC vents near the body are not good for health.
The cooling has to be gradual and sudden flow of cold air can lead to respiratory aliments and joint related problems in few vulnerable individuals. .

more vents placed apart help in better circulation of the air in cabin resulting in much quicker cooling along the cabin.as it is there is an individual switch for the third row which can be switched off when not required.

Same applies to XUV rear seat.

the point of differentiation being?

 

[TrafficHacker]

Also possibility of nose - butt encounter while alighting is less likely occur in international storme storme by virtue of head room available as compared to XUV.
And as far as seat belts in third front facing row is concerned in XUV, the row is suitable only for kids and the kids are not supposed to use them.Use of seat belts is unsafe for kids.

Today I took my team for a lunch outside, the car was jam-packed, we had 7 people on-board.
The people we chose to give the last row was 5'6" & 5'9" tall (they claim so - not so long legs).
They were not uncomfortable when travelling around 30mins.
They had no complaints and they were fine to take the same seats for both up and down trips.

I know this is a very short travel & not conclusive and may not be the case for long drives.
Also it is not the most comfortable ingress and egress for XUV 3rd row passengers.
However, my point here is - writing off the last row seats for just kids is not true completely.
Am 5'10" and did not feel comfortable in Storme's last row at all even for 15 mins drive in city.
Also to mention, people who are not familiar with the middle row fold concept will make a mess of the situation, unless we personally walk out and fold it for them.

AC vents near the body are not good for health. The cooling has to be gradual and sudden flow of cold air can lead to respiratory aliments and joint related problems in few vulnerable individuals. . Hence the roof mounted vents in storme are good enough to serve the gradual cooling effect.

Am not sure if this is true, if so, all the front row passengers will have to suffer all these ailments on regular basis as there are atleast 2 to 4 A/C vents in the front dashboard for almost all cars, that too at close proximity.

The manza club class also comes with genuine leather seat covers. And I have confirmed it on storme vx too. Yet to confirm it on XUV w8.
Softness has nothing to do with genuineness. Younger the animal, softer is the leather obtained from it . And older the animal, harder is the leather

I asked the SA yesterday and he said XUV W8 comes with "Genuine Supple Leather".

 

[raj_5004]

What is the point in dragging the international Storme on this thread? By comparing it here with the Indian Storme and XUV are we going get opportunity to choose the international Storme over the cars in question on this thread?

Dear Tornado, I am not talking about the international spec Storme. By all cars, I meant all cars with front facing seats like Xylo, Aria, Innova, etc.... not just the XUV.

Also possibility of nose - butt encounter while alighting is less likely occur in international storme storme by virtue of head room available as compared to XUV.

So when you are out to buy a vehicle, your choice depends on whether the passengers rub butt? Safety, features, specifications be damned, butt should not be rubbed!

A silly point to argue over.

Since you are taking about ingress and egress, let me tell you that elder people swear by the XUV and Innova for its low floor height since its easier for them to get in and out, compared to the Scorpio, Storme, Safari, Xylo, etc.

So guys, both cars are evenly matched - one has a low floor for ease of ingress and egress, the other does not rub butts. Your pick...

And as far as seat belts in third front facing row is concerned in XUV, the row is suitable only for kids and the kids are not supposed to use them.Use of seat belts is unsafe for kids. [/B

By kids, I mean 10-18 year olds and they can safely wear seat belts. If you are so worried, you can get a child seat or booster seat installed.

By the way, these guys are not Lilliputs nor are they children, they are our very own members seated in the 3rd row of my XUV -



Please dont ask me if they rubbed butts, I did not ask!

AC vents near the body are not good for health. The cooling has to be gradual and sudden flow of cold air can lead to respiratory aliments and joint related problems in few vulnerable individuals. . Hence the roof mounted vents in storme are good enough to serve the gradual cooling effect.

The debate is veering towards the weirder side. The logic is amusing to say the least. So, in that case, people should stop sitting on the front seats. The driver should be made to sit behind with a 360 degree cam view on a HD monitor, what say?

Even if I go by your logic, the AC vents on the Storme direct cold air on your face since they are right on top of your head. The AC vents on the XUV are on the pillars which are farther away and do not direct air directly on you. So which one is more "healthy" sir?

Also, the middle AC vent for the second row on the Storme (which is mounted on the floor) directs cold air directly on the crotch of the middle person. Isnt that a hazard to his safety? Wont be become impotent?

Same applies to XUV rear seat.

Cmon buddy, I guess even you are aware of the fact that though XUV's rear seats (3rd row) is not as spacious as the Innova or Xylo, they are much better than the cramped and side facing seats of the Storme.

I asked the SA yesterday and he said XUV W8 comes with "Genuine Supple Leather".

Thank you for confirming that.

 

[freakdude]

So people need to choose XUV over Storme because some fabricators based in Delhi can't fit sunroofs on Storme.

Now this is EPIC!! Manoj sir, please help me out here, where exactly in Raja's post is this mentioned "people need to choose XUV over Storme because some fabricators based in Delhi can't fit sunroofs on Storme." Believe me I read the post, re-read it, re-re-read it but couldn't deduce this meaning out of it.

 

[MrRanger]

And there are countless threads which get closed due to variety of reason and non agreement of views even this thread is closed check out

http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/member-s-lounge/14664-gandhijis-india-changing.html

And even this

http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/member-s-lounge/14771-safari-dicor-storme-owners-club.html

The storme test drive thread is on . This thread is on too . And xuv 201 thread is on too .





If you would have asked me I would have explained but you dint so ,
What meaning/ assumptions you try to take out of my post is your problem not mine .

Let me repost again .


Incase if someone wants this add on to be done the xuv has a advantage which the storme doesn't . Someone if fancy or wants such facility can also consider this advantage for the xuv while deciding between the two .

It's actually same style of thing which you posted which was this ->

Only thing is you guessed , I posted a pic of the sun roof being done as a option outside dealer ship by professionals . It's so simple .

I have given the info on what is available in the market and also links were posted incase someone is interested can go and ask in detail about the process and then decide about themselves if they want such things or not .

The fabricator will explain in detail what his process is maybe .



And whether it's ugly that is your subjective feeling , others will decide if they like it or not .


And BTW you have quoted " TAI code of conduct " why one must read that before dealing with a,s,s of mahindra ? since I can't quote that part of your post iam attaching a screen shot .





This information is equally important to be checked during PDI , and also for the prospective buyers for information purpose . On what current status is for the niggles .
I will also cross post on the link you have posted thanx .

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...41831.571215052910834&type=1&relevant_count=1
what about this then! What advantage you guys talking about

 

[manojodungat]

Now this is EPIC!! Manoj sir, please help me out here, where exactly in Raja's post is this mentioned "people need to choose XUV over Storme because some fabricators based in Delhi can't fit sunroofs on Storme." Believe me I read the post, re-read it, re-re-read it but couldn't deduce this meaning out of it.

Freakdude Sahib,
BTW, what do you think of the title of the thread?

• One shouldn't be surprised, if people start filling pages here with all aftermarket accessories available in India for XUV and Storme.
• This thread certainly is an all-rounder as it has dedicated page full of discussions on variety of aspects like,
• Numerous reviews/TD reports - both objective and subjective
• Issues and solutions of storme
• Niggles of XUV
• Compilation of anything related to niggles of XUV, be it from Facebook or from other automobile forums [names of which are not stated for obvious reasons]
• Additional advantage of XUV/Storme being compared with many more vehicles available in India even the ST bus.
• Tata Vs Mahindra
• Tata A.S.S vs Mahindra A.S.S
• monocoque Vs BOF
• ESP,ABS,EBD,Airbags -relevant in Indian context?
• Disc brakes Vs Drum brakes
• teachings of Buddha

And many more.
Cheers

 

[MrRanger]

This guy is correct, experience it by yourself don't believe TV reports/supporters and others who are not actually the customers.

problems in xuv500 5643 | CarDekho.com

Never ever decide just based on these reviews. decide only once you analysed the vehicle. this is my experience with XUV500. It seems very attractive but has lot of problems in this car. Be it steering, brakes, windshield, corner posts what not I can list several problems that I saw in this car. especially dealer and service support in Hyderabad is pathetic. Mahindra call center people never answers calls. dealer vvc motor never resolves the issues. i request you to experience the vehicle your self before taking decisions. reviews might have been given by dealers or supporters of Mahindra or tv people but may not be real customers. becareful.here are some problems which I have in my new xuv500 which was delivered just 3 weeks ago.1. steering is not stable. it is shivering a lot even at 50kmph speed. 2. brakes wont get applied when needed and makes lot hell of noise even at low speeds like 50kmph.dealer agreed that it has brake pads problem but he cannot replace until my vehicle gets recalled by Mahindra. I didn't understand why Mahindra couldn't rectify this issue even several customers provided their feedback.3. windshield had problem. in my opinion manufacturing defect but dealer always trying to prove that it is physical damage. 4. corner posts were just kept like that and there is no thinking made when designing. no corner visibility. when you compare with innova, innova has much clear visibility. I can say this is very poor design.5. finally customer support. it is very very worse than I ever saw from any other car manufacturer. I request you experience the vehicle your self fully before making a decision to buy this car. don't jump just based on reviews. Kiran.

 

[Surfer]

However, my point here is - writing off the last row seats for just kids is not true completely.

Agree

This reminded me of Amir Khan from bollywood movie Rangeela

 

[manojodungat]

This guy is correct, experience it by yourself don't believe TV reports/supporters and others who are not actually the customers.
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