Tata Storme vs Mahindra XUV5OO - Which One To Choose?

[TrafficHacker]

@Raja - The initial version of XUVs had thinner windshields and the updated, so called XUV v2.0, has thicker ones.
Not my words, my sales adviser said so, when I highlighted this.
The older ones used to crack while running on high speed highways when even very small stones are hit on the windshield.

Similarly the LED park lights going kaput is also an infamous issue for the old version.
The solution as per the SA is that, initially there was a single chip that had controlled the power to all the headlight & tail lamp units.
After all the issues cropping up, M&M have introduced two different chips which controls them and they claim to have solved this issue thus.

Both the claims are from my SA and yet to be proven on the market based on user experiences.
But so far, I think the newer cars are not reporting these issues, I have not come across any, waiting with fingers crossed as mine is also the XUV v2.0

 

[raj_5004]

The storme for sure comes with genuine leather our member Sanjaysg has a vx storme he has confirmed so , w8 I don't know .

Raja, please re-confirm this with Sanjay. Most manufacturers provide art leather which feels premium.

Genuine leather seats cost much more (about 60-70 k) for a car like Safari compared to art leather seat covers (about 15k).

That said, even I am not sure whether the XUV has art leather or genuine leather. Everything said here is just a guess work.

Ok btw how many xuv owners have got their windshield cracked btw ? Kindly pay attention because , Multiple owners are reporting that their xuv windshield glass got cracked , infact one owner even replaced it 3 times .
And some owners are reporting it happens all of a sudden .

Inferior quality at play ? Or something else ?

Windshield cracking happens in many cars.

I have cracked windshield in my Innova twice. Being a Toyota, would that be inferior quality?

My neighbour had a cracked windshield in his Skoda Laura.

After LEDs and bulbs going kaput this is a new niggle it seems.

Its a very old issues present in the older cars. M&M is replacing the entire headlight unit of the LED goes kaput. As said by TrafficHacker, it should not happen in newer generation cars.

 

[Raja]

@Raja - The initial version of XUVs had thinner windshields and the updated, so called XUV v2.0, has thicker ones.
Not my words, my sales adviser said so, when I highlighted this.
The older ones used to crack while running on high speed highways when even very small stones are hit on the windshield.

Similarly the LED park lights going kaput is also an infamous issue for the old version.
The solution as per the SA is that, initially there was a single chip that had controlled the power to all the headlight & tail lamp units.
After all the issues cropping up, M&M have introduced two different chips which controls them and they claim to have solved this issue thus.

Both the claims are from my SA and yet to be proven on the market based on user experiences.
But so far, I think the newer cars are not reporting these issues, I have not come across any, waiting with fingers crossed as mine is also the XUV v2.0 ]

Very good information .

It means that all 1.0, 1.2, 1.3 version owners must go and get this retrofits proactively . Because thin windshield and later it cracking can be a safety issue in some case god forbid .

Raj_5004 why don't you go and change your windshield and the other parts which trafic hacker is mentioning ? Yours is a 1.2 version right ? .

Thanx traffic hacker for mentioning this , it is extremely valuable information for other owners of xuv .

And if mahindra has taken care of these issues , iam sure your xuv which is version 2.0 will run like a dream for sure . still keep a close look on the clutch and incase you see any even small abnormal behavior in its operation just go and get the slave cylinder changed pro actively .

 

[raj_5004]

Raj_5004 why don't you go and change your windshield and the other parts which trafic hacker is mentioning ? Yours is a 1.2 version right ?

Raja, my car touch wood has none of the common issues prevalent in XUVs -

1) The windshield is fine
2) The clutch is fine
3) The brakes are fine
4) The LEDs are fine

and so on...

The only common issue my car ever had was a fused headlight.

With M&M's A.S.S., I believe -

If it aint broke, done try to fix it.

I dont want them to touch my car unnecessarily.

 

[Raja]

Raja, please re-confirm this with Sanjay. Most manufacturers provide art leather which feels premium.

Genuine leather seats cost much more (about 60-70 k) for a car like Safari compared to art leather seat covers (about 15k).

That said, even I am not sure whether the XUV has art leather or genuine leather. Everything said here is just a guess work.

I spoke to him first , and then posted here .

Windshield cracking happens in many cars.

I have cracked windshield in my Innova twice. Being a Toyota, would that be inferior quality?

My neighbour had a cracked windshield in his Skoda Laura.

But why SA admitted that it was a problem to traffic hacker right ? And admitted that the glass used was thin compared to the one which is provided now .

It is not my theory nor traffic hackers theory too , it's what he was told , and if the SA admitted means such problems must have not occurred once in a while , but regularly for them hence the need to change and make it more thicker . Or else why to change ? So either the windshield is improved which means it was not so good relatively in the past hence like traffic hacker mentioned it was a problem in the past .

Or else SA is fooling around and lying to genuine questions concerning niggles to prospective coustomers .

Its a very old issues present in the older cars. M&M is replacing the entire headlight unit of the LED goes kaput. As said by TrafficHacker, it should not happen in newer generation cars.

You got it changed in your car ?

 

[raj_5004]

I spoke to him first , and then posted here .

On first looks, I did not feel they are genuine leather. Anyways, if it is so, then it is excellent.

But why SA admitted that it was a problem to traffic hacker right ? And admitted that the glass used was thin compared to the one which is provided now .

Maybe it is a problem.

But if I send my car with an absolutely perfect windshield and ask them to change it because some cars had a cracked one, will they change it? I dont think so.

This issue is not like the brakes and clutch one, where M&M is willing to replace parts for free.

You got it changed in your car ?

We are talking about different issues here -

My car does not have the LED issue. The low beam bulbs had fused, which was changed.

 

[sahanip]

Got my XUV5OO delivery yesterday. Noticed few changes in the october made car.
1. The first free service is now at 10000 Km (no time frame)
2. the model badge(W8/W6) has been now put in the rear compared to the driver side in earlier versions.

The display car in the showroom had the W6 badge in the driver side, may be it is of priot month manufactured.

 

[raj_5004]

Got my XUV5OO delivery yesterday. Noticed few changes in the october made car.
1. The first free service is now at 10000 Km (no time frame)

Congratulations. Ownership report??

The service intervals were modified quite some time back.

When the XUV was launched, it had a pathetic 5000 kms/3 months service intervals. Based on customer feedback, M&M increased the service interval to every 10000 kms without any time frame. It is applicable to every XUV now.

 

[sahanip]

Congratulations. Ownership report??

The service intervals were modified quite some time back.
.

Thanks!!
aahh I knew it was coming.. Let me have a good time with the beast this weekend.. what are weekdays for to write and read.

 

[Gurrala74]

Congratulations. Ownership report??

The service intervals were modified quite some time back.

When the XUV was launched, it had a pathetic 5000 kms/3 months service intervals. Based on customer feedback, M&M increased the service interval to every 10000 kms without any time frame. It is applicable to every XUV now.

@Raj, If I remember correctly, IR played a important role in this decision of service intervals of the XUV

 

[TrafficHacker]

Raj_5004 why don't you go and change your windshield and the other parts which trafic hacker is mentioning ? Yours is a 1.2 version right ?

I do not think the windshield is covered under the replacements, incase of cracks due to small stones hitting, they are usually replaced with insurance claims.
I do not think the windshield and LED park lamp would be a part of proactive replacement via recalls or on requests.
The Head lamp unit gets replaced under warranty only in case of failure, that also is not done on request.

But why SA admitted that it was a problem to traffic hacker right ? And admitted that the glass used was thin compared to the one which is provided now .

It is not my theory nor traffic hackers theory too , it's what he was told , and if the SA admitted means such problems must have not occurred once in a while , but regularly for them hence the need to change and make it more thicker . Or else why to change ? So either the windshield is improved which means it was not so good relatively in the past hence like traffic hacker mentioned it was a problem in the past .

The SA claimed that all the issues reported till date are fixed and the new cars do not have any issues - its niggle free.
I was then asking about the common issues and their fixes one by one and then he was saying that the windshield cracking has been noticed and reported by many customers - He did not say it was thin, he just said the thickness has been increased to mitigate the complaint.
It was my words that it was thin in older ones in comparison with new.

 

[navnit013]

Thin/thick windshield, is the SAs imagination running wild. It was a convenient answer to prevent you from digging deep.

Windshield is a structural part of a car. And no manufacturer will play with it. Not even Mahindra. So windshield being thick now is a joke. Windshield develops crack when it feels the twist. And if that problem has been solved now, then Mahindra has done things to prevent the twisting of the monocoque in the windshield region.

 

[Gurrala74]

Is that the windshield glass problem or the beeding problem ??

I do not think any manufacturer will fix a weak glass, but if there is a slightest air leakage through beeding then there is chance that the glass will get crack.

 

[Raja]

I do not think the windshield is covered under the replacements, incase of cracks due to small stones hitting, they are usually replaced with insurance claims.
I do not think the windshield and LED park lamp would be a part of proactive replacement via recalls or on requests.
The Head lamp unit gets replaced under warranty only in case of failure, that also is not done on request.

But quality is now better then before ? If yes then why is it that people pay money and get inconsistent quality before and now .

The SA claimed that all the issues reported till date are fixed and the new cars do not have any issues - its niggle free.

Remember the recall for power steering issue ? Hope they have increased the quality in new production. Because even after changing the part under recall somebody had a break down because of the same part going kaput and his car had to be towed .

I was then asking about the common issues and their fixes one by one and then he was saying that the windshield cracking has been noticed and reported by many customers - He did not say it was thin, he just said the thickness has been increased to mitigate the complaint.

Thickness increased compared to what ? Something must be thin to begin with to increase the thickness right ?

For example what does this phrase means " mr x has become fat now " ? It means me x was relatively thin before compared to his present figure .

@raj_5004 - I think the above bolded reply from traffic hacker is your answer to innova and skoda having windshield breaking .

It was my words that it was thin in older ones in comparison with new. [embarass

I think you must not be embrassed , anybody would have thought the same if they are told that thickness is increased , in other words it means it was thin to begin with , so your interpretation is correct .

 

[Raja]

The clutch failure is said to be the only worrying factor among the mhawk variants.

I think more then quality problem here must be some mechanical problem with the clutch and it's components because the same problem is carried forward in Mhwak xuv too .( like dsg problems in VW cars ) afaik even Ironrock mentioned that they had done a recall for clutch ( not made public though ) and his clutch too was replaced . Yet the problem occurs I think .
Iam sure but mahindra engineers must be working really hard on this particular problem like tata who seem to trying hard to fix the squeaking and rattling of the rear door .

But company not replacing the clutch plates for free when it's a known issue for many cars is not fair , what has the poor costumer to do when this is a known problem in xuv .

Pic attached - yet another complaint for the clutch failure - source - Facebook .