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GNSS Toll Collection: Pay Toll As Per Distance Covered
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Re: Pay toll as per the distance covered - GPS based tolling under testing!
This is indeed a good move, hope the GPS based toll becomes reality in near future. Why should commuters pay the road haven't used. FASTag lanes no too should be increased in toll plazas too and if a vehicle enters in FASTag lane without having FASTTag have to cough-up extra.
This is indeed a good move, hope the GPS based toll becomes reality in near future. Why should commuters pay the road haven't used. FASTag lanes no too should be increased in toll plazas too and if a vehicle enters in FASTag lane without having FASTTag have to cough-up extra.
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I am curious as to what GPS system would be used. Unless GPS is built into the vehicle, all GPS accessories - including OBD based GPS accessory- can spoof the location coordinates easily. I am sure transporters will easily find this loophole and use it to their advantage.
I am curious as to what GPS system would be used. Unless GPS is built into the vehicle, all GPS accessories - including OBD based GPS accessory- can spoof the location coordinates easily. I am sure transporters will easily find this loophole and use it to their advantage.
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Re: Pay toll as per the distance covered - GPS based tolling under testing!
Technology alone can't drive this nation.
We have so many rules on paper, if enforced properly, we'll soon be among the best countries in world!
RFID, Fast Tags and what not had been planned but nothing is working out as planned.
Technology alone can't drive this nation.
We have so many rules on paper, if enforced properly, we'll soon be among the best countries in world!
RFID, Fast Tags and what not had been planned but nothing is working out as planned.
Re: Pay toll as per the distance covered - GPS based tolling under testing!
Technology works and is adopted only if people see an advantage to it. Most of the time, the advantage is monetary advantage as compared to convenience.
For example, Fastag adoption improved a lot after announcing cash backs on cashless transactions. Similarly, in this case, if it is kept in such a way, that there is a default higher toll from point A to B, and the toll would be lower if its calculated using GPS, many more may be open to adopt it.
However, this would be more popular in the commercial segment, who would be easily able to cover the cost of the GPS device that may need installation for this. For private car customers, it would take quite some time for people to adopt this, like is the case with Fastag.
Technology works and is adopted only if people see an advantage to it. Most of the time, the advantage is monetary advantage as compared to convenience.
For example, Fastag adoption improved a lot after announcing cash backs on cashless transactions. Similarly, in this case, if it is kept in such a way, that there is a default higher toll from point A to B, and the toll would be lower if its calculated using GPS, many more may be open to adopt it.
However, this would be more popular in the commercial segment, who would be easily able to cover the cost of the GPS device that may need installation for this. For private car customers, it would take quite some time for people to adopt this, like is the case with Fastag.
Re: Pay toll as per the distance covered - GPS based tolling under testing!
I asked a simple query to guys at FastTag stall at Auto Expo.
How will you ensure that no non-FastTag car enters the dedicate lane?
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I am still looking for an answer.
I asked a simple query to guys at FastTag stall at Auto Expo.
How will you ensure that no non-FastTag car enters the dedicate lane?
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I am still looking for an answer.
Re: Pay toll as per the distance covered - GPS based tolling under testing!
The answer is simple and in fact known to everyone. It is impossible in India to restrict a single lane. Instead, easier remedy is to make all the lanes hybrid, which can support both Fastag as well cash payment. But it does take some willing minds to implement these, especially from the Toll plaza administrator.
This actually compliments what Fastag application is trying to achieve. It can squeeze out every bit of toll from users who utilizes the toll road, even if it is for 500 m. However how will it work for 2-wheeler and the rest of 'em who seem to share the road with cars and other bigger vehicles?
The answer is simple and in fact known to everyone. It is impossible in India to restrict a single lane. Instead, easier remedy is to make all the lanes hybrid, which can support both Fastag as well cash payment. But it does take some willing minds to implement these, especially from the Toll plaza administrator.
This actually compliments what Fastag application is trying to achieve. It can squeeze out every bit of toll from users who utilizes the toll road, even if it is for 500 m. However how will it work for 2-wheeler and the rest of 'em who seem to share the road with cars and other bigger vehicles?
Re: Pay toll as per the distance covered - GPS based tolling under testing!
They can move the barrier to the entrance of the FastTag lane so the boom barrier will open only when vehicles with fast tag approaches.
They can move the barrier to the entrance of the FastTag lane so the boom barrier will open only when vehicles with fast tag approaches.
Re: Pay toll as per the distance covered - GPS based tolling under testing!
This is one of the obvious thought comes to mind initially. But imagine if couple of adjacent FastTag lanes are being approached by non-Tag holders. They won't be able to changes lanes, and traffic will pileup within seconds.
Earlier on Delhi-Gurgaon toll plaza (now removed), they had brilliantly put huge signboards for more than a KM before the boom-barrier that Tag equipped cars should stick to right most lane. With them, many other vehicles used to clog the lane defeating the purpose and soon it became an everyday circus!
User discipline is the only way out, and this is the most difficult thing in our country to implement.
IMO, restricting a dedicated lane is easier. Hybrid lanes will not serve the purpose for which FastTag is charging a premium i.e., smooth uninterrupted flow of tagged cars.
IMO, a dedicated long lane (not extra wide) with proper barricading or concrete dividers having 2 boom barriers "may" serve the purpose. The first boom barrier will lift seeing a tagged car approaching. If it's a non-tagged car, barrier will not lift up and the car will be forced to change the lane through dedicated "exit-only cuts". After this primary level of segregating cars, the final boom-barrier will lift deducting the money from Tag.
This is one of the obvious thought comes to mind initially. But imagine if couple of adjacent FastTag lanes are being approached by non-Tag holders. They won't be able to changes lanes, and traffic will pileup within seconds.
Earlier on Delhi-Gurgaon toll plaza (now removed), they had brilliantly put huge signboards for more than a KM before the boom-barrier that Tag equipped cars should stick to right most lane. With them, many other vehicles used to clog the lane defeating the purpose and soon it became an everyday circus!
User discipline is the only way out, and this is the most difficult thing in our country to implement.
IMO, restricting a dedicated lane is easier. Hybrid lanes will not serve the purpose for which FastTag is charging a premium i.e., smooth uninterrupted flow of tagged cars.
IMO, a dedicated long lane (not extra wide) with proper barricading or concrete dividers having 2 boom barriers "may" serve the purpose. The first boom barrier will lift seeing a tagged car approaching. If it's a non-tagged car, barrier will not lift up and the car will be forced to change the lane through dedicated "exit-only cuts". After this primary level of segregating cars, the final boom-barrier will lift deducting the money from Tag.
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Re: Pay toll as per the distance covered - GPS based tolling under testing!
In my opinion that will defeat the purpose of Fastag and Govt effort to shift to digital money.
We have to accept we lack discipline, and as long as something work in our favor we continue to do that.
Actually, there is a pretty simple way, we all know people love discounts and wants to save every single rupee (in an effort to push cashless economy Govt had to announce a discount on digital payment for Fastag/RFID). Similarly, no one like to spend that extra rupee. Just include one new component in the receipt Fastag Lane Charge and charge extra than the normal lane for a vehicle entering a Fastag lane which does not have RFID/Fastag. In no time, people will shift to the proper lanes.
I think 2 wheelers are exempt to pay tolls on highways.
In my opinion that will defeat the purpose of Fastag and Govt effort to shift to digital money.
We have to accept we lack discipline, and as long as something work in our favor we continue to do that.
Actually, there is a pretty simple way, we all know people love discounts and wants to save every single rupee (in an effort to push cashless economy Govt had to announce a discount on digital payment for Fastag/RFID). Similarly, no one like to spend that extra rupee. Just include one new component in the receipt Fastag Lane Charge and charge extra than the normal lane for a vehicle entering a Fastag lane which does not have RFID/Fastag. In no time, people will shift to the proper lanes.
I think 2 wheelers are exempt to pay tolls on highways.
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Government Clears GPS-Based Toll Collection System; No Toll Booths In 2 Years
The Union Minister of Road Transport & Highways and MSMEs, Nitin Gadkari, has announced that the Government of India has cleared the use of GPS-based for toll collection in the country. Gadkari says that this move will ensure seamless movement of vehicles across the country, and it will also help India becomes a 'toll booth free' nation in the next two years. The Union Minister further added that with the GPS-based system the toll amount will be deducted directly from the bank account of vehicle owners, based on the movement of vehicles.
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The Union Minister of Road Transport & Highways and MSMEs, Nitin Gadkari, has announced that the Government of India has cleared the use of GPS-based for toll collection in the country. Gadkari says that this move will ensure seamless movement of vehicles across the country, and it will also help India becomes a 'toll booth free' nation in the next two years. The Union Minister further added that with the GPS-based system the toll amount will be deducted directly from the bank account of vehicle owners, based on the movement of vehicles.
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It's impossible that government will let this rule go ahead with a green signal.
The main reason is because then government will earn less as right now they get a flat fee from toll irrespective of whatever distance the car covers after crossing the toll.
Also, right now they dont close a toll after the desired amount is been collected and their years of contract is completed.
Even after collecting this toll and earning a good profit which they claim are collecting for road maintenance, they don't do that.
so, I feel they won't implement this as it would impact their big big pockets.
The main reason is because then government will earn less as right now they get a flat fee from toll irrespective of whatever distance the car covers after crossing the toll.
Also, right now they dont close a toll after the desired amount is been collected and their years of contract is completed.
Even after collecting this toll and earning a good profit which they claim are collecting for road maintenance, they don't do that.
so, I feel they won't implement this as it would impact their big big pockets.
FASTag, the system used for collecting tolls from vehicles, could be abolished as the central government is planning to roll out a new system for toll collection.
According to a report in The Statesman, the government will now use the satellite navigation system for collecting tolls, replacing the FASTag system. Quoting sources, the newspaper reported that the pilot project for the new system is already being executed across the country.
According to a report in The Statesman, the government will now use the satellite navigation system for collecting tolls, replacing the FASTag system. Quoting sources, the newspaper reported that the pilot project for the new system is already being executed across the country.